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  • Shandyr
    Should you ever role play another character here on the forum, I would like to see Kinky the Kenku. Nothing against Vaga ;) but I really like the idea of Kinky.
    September 12
    • Shandyr
      Shandyr
      the Kenku.
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      Once we fight of the orcish hordes and find the throne of the undying, then yes Kinky the Kenku might see the light of day :)

      ...maybe he'll find Vaga's baby blur thong. Sound like something Kinky might want to wear.
  • So today my country had our elections and early indications show 20% or so chose to vote for a racist party. Last elections they had around 13% and for every scandal, for every racist remark they made since then, they actually increase their support. It's a shameful day, a day of disgrace, but also a day for contemplation because clearly, we as a country who praise ourselves to lead the way, has shown a lot of us vote for hate rather than for love.

    A few more hours until the elections are fully calculated. I will await the final figures and then I will weep.
    September 9
    • Shandyr
      Shandyr
      "has shown a lot of us vote for hate rather than for love"

      Hate what or whom? Love what or whom?
      Understanding can help to love. Hate is often based on the lack of understanding. What was done to improve understanding?

      'Giving and taking' can be seen as one aspect of the foundation of a healthy relationship. Who gives what to whom and what do they get in return?

      'Vote for that because that means love' is too simple. It's insufficient as a reason. It's insufficient as a return. Some may say it's human to ask for a return, that it is in our nature. Then the question is what return would be adequate.

      Just giving without expecting anything in return because 'it is the right thing to do' may be seen as very noble indeed. So how many noble humans are there?

      'Love' is a relation. And it is a feeling. It needs to be carefully cultivated. How many people love something because 'it is the right thing to do so'? Is that how love works? What was done to create an atmosphere in which love could have flourished?
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      Not sure I follow your trail of mind. I meant ppl who chose to lay their precious vote on a party that take a clear stand on racism, saying they get to decide who is good and who is not. They despise the democracy that gives them their power and they will work to destroy it, would they ever reach majority. The only thing separating them from Hitler's party is time, the foundations are the same.
    • Shandyr
      Shandyr
      I have often wondered if people miss the opportunity to ask important questions after an election.

      "They despise the democracy that gives them their power"
      How come? Why have they come to despise their own democracy? Why would anyone hate something that gives them power? And why did 20% of the voters decide to follow such people?

      And what did the other 80% of voters and the other political parties do to help to create an atmosphere of love and understanding?

      Love and understanding don't create themselves. They're hard work. So who worked for that in order to achieve them?
    • Shandyr
      Shandyr
      I can only tell you from my experience here in Germany with the far-far-right party "AfD". I doesn't work to condemn them. It doesn't work to shun them. Nor does it help to condemn or shun their voters.
      If anything, it makes them stronger.

      There may be voters among their voters who are just temporarily frustrated. If you condemn them you may lose them forever. And you may not win any voters back by condemning, shunning or blaming them anyway.

      That is just my personal, subjective impression from observation.
    • Shandyr
      Shandyr
      Please don't misunderstand my posts. I'm not saying that you do any of that. My posts are meant genuine and without trying to imply blame to you personally.

      I think such an outcome of an election is the responsibility of the society as a WHOLE.
      And I think that the easiest thing for a human being to ever do, is to blame someone (else).

      So there is only one consequence for me: To look at myself and ask myself: What do I do to foster love and understanding in Germany. And the answer is, of course, "nothing".

      And now I've given myself something to think about.
    • Aedan
      Aedan
      I feel you, Skatan. It is a problem almost everywhere in Europe... Racism, populism and such are spreading a lot. These political forces are gathering consensus and keep growing. People think they have the right solution for any kind of problem... But they are so wrong.
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      "They despise the democracy that gives them their power"
      How come? Why have they come to despise their own democracy? Why would anyone hate something that gives them power? And why did 20% of the voters decide to follow such people?

      --> My statement comes from the fact that their party leaders have talked about shutting down open, free media. That they want to govern who takes power in institutional positions that should be free from political influence and that they want to shut down certain freedoms that is the very essence of a free democracy. This means they want to shut down parts of the very democracy that gave them their power in the first place, should they ever reach a majority. This is, same as you see in any non-democratic country like Russia, Turkey or similar, that once they who reach power, they start to shut down the mechanics that could overthrow them and remove them from power. The attacks on free press is not seldom the first step, shutting down the free critiscism of their government.
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      "Love and understanding don't create themselves. They're hard work. So who worked for that in order to achieve them?"

      Ppl in countries such as mine, if I could take a moment to generalize, are so sure about our freedom that we take it for granted. Many of us have never had to fight for it, not for a long time. We've grown complacent and don't understand that if we give these dark powers a finger, they will take it all and twist into something corrupted.

      Many stand against the racists, but in their shadows there' still 20% almost that feel small, insignificant, unsure and threatened by change, by immigrants, by all the lies they are fed in the info-bubble. So far there's still too many of the good people, but in the wake of this election there will be a political turmoil that will last the entire 4-year period I think. Neither side has a majority, so neither can create a proper leadership. I fear a bit for what will happen.
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      Yeah, exactly Aedan. It's seen in so many countries all over Europe but also other countries. This is just the start, I wonder where it will end. Will the EU break down in time, will more leave?
    • Anduin
      Anduin
      Poverty causes hate. The newspapers will blame the lower classes, that are uneducated, unemployed and have poor wage earning capacity.

      Yet the supposedly lower class, have very few prospects, due to there being not enough jobs. Poorly skilled migrants and poorly skilled (for lack of a better word) natives fighting over the same few jobs. Capitalism takes advantage and gives the jobs to those that will accept the lowest wages. Whilst the youth are just forgotten.
    • Anduin
      Anduin
      I can predict the newspaper headlines... Yet the polls said that Brexit wasn't going to happen. So...
    • Zaghoul
      Zaghoul
      @skatan That's a bit disheartening to hear. It seems like Europe has seen a rise in right wing groups ever since the Syrian refugee crisis and the mass migration northward. I don't think anyone was really prepared for such an event to be honest.
    • mashedtaters
      mashedtaters
      Not to say they aren’t racists (I don’t know anything about politics in your country), but the word racism gets thrown around and overused so frequently here in the US without basis that people have become insensitive and unaware of when there are actually people who wish to cause physical harm to another based solely on heritage or ethnicity. That just makes racism more pernicious and dangerous, because who is who? Who’s the guy that wants to kill or harm you for your race, and who’s the guy that is naive or crude? It’s so confusing.
    • mashedtaters
      mashedtaters
      It’s like racist camouflage!
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      Though I agree somewhat with you MashedTaters, trust me when I say that in this particular case, calling them racists is not wrong. Their leader stem from the neo-nazism groups that sprung up a lot in the early nineties (also to some degree because of migrations, Sweden let in a lot of refugees from the former Yugoslavia for example). Many of the leaders of his party do as well and there's countless incidents where high and low members of the party post pure racism on ie Facebook or Twitter openly. They've done so much now for so long, it's almost like their voters have grown jaded and no longer raise an eyebrow when new things are brought up to light.
    • mashedtaters
      mashedtaters
      That’s such a shame. There’s a group like that in the US that no one really pays attention to, but are very dangerous. I think if the word racist wasn’t liberally applied to everything from clothing to food, more people would be apt to call them out, but as it is they are just dismissed off hand. It’s like the boy who cried wolf. Now there really IS a racist group, but no one pays attention anymore. I hope it doesn’t end up like what you’re describing. :(
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      It is true what you write, the boy and the wolf. US have a slightly different political stage than Sweden though. Here we have 7 parties that tend to merge into blocks, one right and one left. This means there's a party for most ppl to vote on, and not just two so the smaller, more distinct parties can still reach a (sorta) position of power by aligning themselves with the larger groups to form a government. So there's a place also for those with more extreme opinions.
  • What day is it today?
    September 7
    • Rik_Kirtaniya
      Rik_Kirtaniya
      Tie Day! :D
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      Indeed it is! Or was in your case since I guess it's Saturday for you now.
    • Ravenslight
      Ravenslight
      Yeah! :)
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      Oh Ravenslight, you bless us less with your presence these days. Has the witchhunt from Minion scared you off from us?
    • Ravenslight
      Ravenslight
      Minion seems to behave himself lately. Unless he has a hand in constantly wiping my wall clean… sigh Though, I think the blame for that lies with Vanilla.

      Truly, rl concerns have kept me occupied. It makes me smile to see that Tie Day is still being observed. :)
    • mlnevese
      mlnevese
      @Ravenslight That's Vanilla...
  • Rik_Kirtaniya
    I'm glad that you appreciated the beauty of the Bengali script. Since you liked it, I think you'll love to hear it, for it's even more beautiful when it's spoken. So here's one of my favorite songs written by the great Rabindranath Tagore. It falls under it's own unique (and vast) genre of "Rabindrasangeet"s.

    ~কতবার ভেবেছিনু আপনা ভুলিয়া~


    September 7
    • ThacoBell
      ThacoBell
      I'm curious about the roots of the language. Some of it sounds similar tomore eastern languages (is oriental still acceptable? Some people don't like the phrase anymore.) But most of it sounds unlike any other language I've heard before.
    • Rik_Kirtaniya
      Rik_Kirtaniya
      I'm not sure about other people, but to me, oriental sounds like a good enough word. It's similar to occidental for the west. :)

      Bengali is derived from the Sanskrit language, and is written with the original Devanagari script somewhat modified. (Hindi, another major language in India, uses the original Devanagari script however.) Over the ages, it went on to sound different from Sanskrit, though there are also many dialectic variations present among the 170 million+ people who speak it as their mother tongue. The one which you hear in this song is the one that is used as a standard, though some words in it contain a few poetic variations (like there's thou, thee, thine in English).

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_language
    • Dev6
      Dev6
      Are Hindi and Bengali speakers able to easily understand each other, or are the languages completely different?
      I'm asking because, as an outsider, they both look and sound alike. :)
    • Rik_Kirtaniya
      Rik_Kirtaniya
      Well, they have evolved much over time so that they actually are quite different, in spite of the fact that they both have originated from the same root. Here in West Bengal, we have both Hindi-speaking and Bengali-speaking people living together, so basically we hear each other and get familiar. That being said, in the northern and northwestern parts of India, people will not easily understand Bengali. (You need to speak in Hindi there.)

      And then again, we have other languages spoken in the South that are not derived from Sanskrit, like Tamil or Telugu. They are totally different from the North Indian languages, and quite incomprehensible to someone from the North. In such cases, Hindi and English serve as the common medium of communication.
    • ThacoBell
      ThacoBell
      Interesting. Thank you for the info and link.
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      Thanks Rik, that was beautiful. So serene, in a way. What was the song about?
    • Rik_Kirtaniya
      Rik_Kirtaniya
      Actually, the song is about both love (প্রেম) and worship (পূজা). To Tagore, love is something sacred and precious, and in many of his poems and songs, loving is almost synonymous with worshipping. It's a unique perspective, and one often wonders if it is to a beloved or to God that such a poem or song is addressed.

      Roughly transliterating, this is what the song says:

      "Many a times have I thought, forgetting myself,
      That I would lay my heart open before you.
      And before you, I'll make the confession,
      How much I love you in secret, my friend.
      But here I thought you were a God from heaven,
      And to a God, how does one speak of passion?

      So I thought I'd rather stay far away,
      And worship you forever in solitude and secrecy.
      And none would know of my deep love,
      And none would see the tears of my eyes.
      But today, that you yourself have come and asked me,
      Oh my friend, how would I express how much I love you?"

      The structure and rhyme of the piece is broken on translation and the true beauty of the poetry can be better understood in the original language. Every one of Tagore's songs (known popularly as Rabindra-sangeets) is a masterpiece and I love them. :)
    • ThacoBell
      ThacoBell
      Music is one of the few areas where I don't think translation can give it real justice. Music and jokes.
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      Agree with your both, but the lyrics were still good even after translation. Thanks Rik for taking the tame to translate.
    • Ravenslight
      Ravenslight
      I don’t understand a word, but it truly is lovely. :)
  • Shandyr
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      Pickpocket SUCCESS! :D
    • Shandyr
      Shandyr
      Well, depends on your definition of "success". You were caught on camera...
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      If you getz the loots 'tis a success ;) Stealth failed though with such epic charisma, who cares? :D
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      forgot the but!
  • Haven't all the new (can we call them new still?) NVN forum members found the activity page? It feels the only one posting here are the same old bunch. Someone should introduce them here so they too can spam some random nonsense so I have more to read :)
    August 10
    • JuliusBorisov
      JuliusBorisov
      NWN, though. :)
    • Dev6
      Dev6
      NeverVinter, the city vhere it never snovs. :)
    • JuliusBorisov
      JuliusBorisov
      You knov nothing ;)
    • Rik_Kirtaniya
      Rik_Kirtaniya
      Hov vonderful is the viev from atop the tovers of Nevervinter!
  • So tonight will be spent playing the first real DLC for PoE2. Looking forward to taking my Ascetic back out for a new adventure!
    August 5
  • So not only am I the ONLY one working this week in like the entire Sweden, and not only did I forgot my passcard when I went out on the yard to enjoy a cuppa in the sun, no no, my bike was also stolen from outside the office when I then had to walk around the building, still with my coffe cup in my hand, to go home since I couldn't get back into the office.

    Ah glorious days! It's so great to be alive some days. Truly.
    July 23
    • ThacoBell
      ThacoBell
      Wow
    • lolien
      lolien
      It seems to me, that motorbike thieves are also working hard there. Show some empathy for them.
    • Tresset
      Tresset
      My bike was once stolen right out of my own porch while I was sleeping! I was thoroughly outraged. About a week later I found it dumped in some foliage just a few houses down in my alley. I suspect the burglar was an idiot because the gears were switched all the way up to the maximum setting. This would make it almost impossible to ride unless you were going down a steep hill. Ugh, just thinking about it is getting me steamed. I hope you get your bike back, Skatan.
    • Zaghoul
      Zaghoul
      Lawd. Darn scamps are everywhere. There have been times in the past when I have thought it would have almost been worth it having something stolen, if only I could have caught the one trying to steal it right afterwards (especially on those bad days).
    • Rik_Kirtaniya
      Rik_Kirtaniya
      Sorry to hear that. :(

      Wish we could use Bounty Hunter traps to deal with those pesky thieves. Otiluke's Resilient Sphere would come in handy in this case.
    • mlnevese
      mlnevese
      On a positive note... Had coffee :)
    • mashedtaters
      mashedtaters
      You should be more accommodating to criminals that have no respect for property rights. Next time give him your entire year’s salary, your home, and your wife, and your magpies.
      That’ll teach’em.
    • Skatan
      Skatan
      @Tresset; Yeah, I thought it was some hobo first so I borrowed my GF's bike when I got home (I had to walk home) and rode around the neighbourhood to see if it was dumped anywhere. It wasn't though.

      @Zaghoul.. yeah I know that feeling. I dunno what I had done if I had caught the bastard in the act. I mean, it's literally just outside my office and I passed the place twice, to and from lunch, and between then and when I locked myself outside was just about 2 hours. I could just as well have been locked outside a little earlier and seen the thief. Thinking about that scene in Chronicles of Riddick where he kills a guy with a cup of tea. I had coffee in a porcelain cup, but I might have tried at least :P
      (No, I wouldn't cause I am not that kind of guy, but the thought of doing it can still be soothing!)

      @Rik - So true! And some divine scrying to find the bastards if you forgot the traps. Man, where's a diviner mage when you need one?

      @mashedtaters: Give someone my magpies, are you MAD!? They are my livelyhood, how else would I get money if it weren't for their.. ahem.. collecting shiny stuff for me?