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Headbomb's big list of weapons and items issues [Part 6]

HeadbombHeadbomb Member Posts: 213
edited February 2013 in Fixed
So ( @Jalily , @CamDawg), following the last update, some new stuff I noticed:


AMUL18 / AMUL21 / AMUL23 / AMUL24 / AMUL25
* General name should probably be "Amulet" and not "Silver Amulet"

AMUL21
* It says it decreases the spellcasting speed by 1... so it makes the spellcasting take more time or less? If it decreases the spellcasting time by 1... then that's what should be mentioned in the description IMO.

AROW04
* These should probably be named "Acid Arrow +1"

AROW06
* Still deals 0d2 + 6d6 fire damage (save for half)

AROW08
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 2?

band04
* Shouldn't this be named Circlet of the Archmagi +1?

BELT10
* Shouldn't the generic name for this be "Belt"?

BELT16
* Price is still set to 3. May not be a bug per se, but this is rather low per previous discussions.

BLUN10
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1?

BLUN38
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1?

BOOK68 / BOOK87 / BOOK88
* Shouldn't the general name for these be "Book"?

BOOT06 / BOOT12
* Shouldn't the general name for these be "Boots"?

BPNOTE
* Shouldn't the general name for this be "Note/Letter"?

BPRNG1
* Shouldn't the general name for this be "Ring"?

BRAC03
* Shouldn't the identified name be Bracers of Defence AC 6 per the others (BRAC01/BRAC02)?

BRAC11
* Shouldn't the general name for this be "Bracers"?

BRAC18 / BRAC19
* Shouldn't the general name for these be "Gauntlets"?

BRAC26
* Shouldn't this be named "Tzu-Zan's Bracers +1"?

BULL04
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1?

BULL07
* These should probably be named "Bullet of Fire +1"

BULL08
* These should probably be named "Bullet of Ice +1"

BULL09
* These should probably be named "Bullet of Electricity +1"

CLCK05
* Shouldn't this be named "Cloak of Balduran +1"?

CLCK21
* Should this even need Lore to identify?
* Shouldn't this be flagged as unsellable?

CLCK22
* Should this even need Lore to identify?

DNNOTE
* Shouldn't the general name for this be "Note/Letter"?

ENMACE / ENMORN / ENSTAFF / ENSW1H01 / ENSW1H02 / ENSW2H
* Should these have strengths requirements? If so, they should probably be listed in the description (would require new strings however).

FIRESEED
* Should the enchantment really be set to 6?

HAMM04
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1?

HELM07
* Shouldn't this be named "Helmet of Balduran +1"?

MISC1J
* Shouldn't the general name for these be "Gem"?

MISC2O
* Shouldn't the general name for these simply be "Lock of Succubus Hair" per MISC51?

MISC56
* Identified name should be "Broken Weapon" (capital W)

MISC67
* General name for this should be "Brun's Dead Son" instead of "Brun's Dead SonSTATITICS:Weights: 110"

MISC76
* Shouldn't the general name for these be "Potion"?

MISC77
* Identified name for this should be "Skull of Kereph" or "The Dream Skull" instead of "Skull of KerephSTATISTICS:Weight: 1"

MISC89
* Shouldn't the general name for these be "Amulet"?

MISC90
* "Body" should be capitalized in both the general/identified name

MISC13 / MISC1E / MISC54 / MISC55 / MISC65 / MISC66 / MISC67 / MISC68 / MISC69 / MISC79 / MISC80 / MISC90 / MISC96 /
* General name should probably simply be "Body" or "Corpse" for all of them for consistency
* Identified name should probably be "Foobar's Body" or "Foobar's Corpse" for all of them for consistency

MISC49
* General / Identified name should be "Melicamp the Chicken" (with caps)

MISC71
* General name should probably be "Book"

MISC76
* General name should probably be "Potion"

MISC77 / MISC81
* General name should probably be "Skull"

MISC82
* General name should probably be "Ancient Armor". Broken Armor seems to imply the same uselessness as a Broken Weapon resulting from the Iron Shortage.

NEBELT
* General name should probably be "Belt"

POTN17
* General name should probably be "Potion"

POTN23
* General name should probably be "Oil"

POTN47 / POTNMARE
* Identified name should probably simply be "Marek's Antidote". Or at the very least "Marek's Potion of Antidote" (with caps)

LOPOTN20
* Identified name should probably simply be "Lothander's Antidote". Or at the very least "Lothander's Potion of Antidote" (with caps)

POTN48
* Identified name should probably be "Vial of Mysterious Liquid" (with caps).
* I suggest putting the general name as "Vial of Liquid" rather than "Potion"

QUIVER01/02/05
* Should probably require equal lore to identify
* QUIVER02 lacks a lore entry

RINGJOIA
* General name should probably be "Ring"

RSBOOT
* General name should probably be "Boots"

RSBRAC
* General name should probably be "Bracers"

DNNOTE / RSNOTE1 / RSNOTE2 / RSNOTE3 / SCRL2I to SCRL3E / SCRL3I / SCRL3Z / SCRL5R / SCRL5S / SCRLAUTO / SCRLDRA / SCRLKAR / SCRLNEI / SCRLTAR / SCRLVAIL / SCRLZHA
* General name should probably be "Note" or "Letter" depending on the length. This would reserve "Scroll" for magical scrolls.
* Identified name should probably be "Gorion's Letter" (SCRL2J) / "Sarevok's Letter to Slythe" (SCRL2K) / etc...

SCRL3F
* General name should probably be "Book"

SCRL77
* General name should probably be "Scroll"

SCRLPET
* General name should probably be "Scroll"

SHLD02 / shld02A / SHLD04 / shld04A / SHLD06 / shld06A / shld06P / SHLD07 / shld07A / shld08P / SHLD09P / SHLD17
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1 instead of 0?

shld07P
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1 instead of 7

SHLD19 / shld19A / SHLD28 / SHLD29
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 2 instead of 0?

shld31A
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 3 instead of 4?

shld06P
*Identified name should probably be "Redshield +1"

SLNG11
* Should this really have an enchantment level of 2 since this isn't quite a Sling +2?

SORB
* Should this really have an enchantment level of 6?

STAFN1
* General name should probably be "Quarterstaff"

SW1H03
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1 instead of 3?

SW1H12
* General name should be "Longsword"
* Identified name should be "Hull's Long Sword" (no dot)

SW1H13
* General name should probably be "Dagger" (compare with SW1H15 for example)

SW1H17
* General name should probably be "Short Sword"

SW1H18
* General name should probably be "Bastard Sword" (if this change is made, MISC1B's general name should probably be renamed to "Butter Knife" as well)
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 0 instead of 2?

SW1H19
* General name should probably be "Longsword"
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1 instead of 0?

SW1H24
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1 instead of 4?

SW1H79
* Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1 instead of 3?

SW2HD1
* General name should probably be "Two-Handed Sword"

Post edited by Jalily on
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Comments

  • HeadbombHeadbomb Member Posts: 213
    Pinging @Jalily since the @ syntax doesn't like commas, and edits don't ping people.

    Jalily
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    @CamDawg, there are reassignments and stuff for you too.
    Headbomb said:

    AMUL21
    * It says it decreases the spellcasting speed by 1... so it makes the spellcasting take more time or less? If it decreases the spellcasting time by 1... then that's what should be mentioned in the description IMO.

    Changed speed to time.
    Headbomb said:

    AROW04
    * These should probably be named "Acid Arrow +1"

    Done.
    Headbomb said:

    BELT10
    * Shouldn't the generic name for this be "Belt"?

    Probably, and NEBELT01 (Adoy's Belt) should get the same reassignment. There's also "Cursed Girdle of Hill Giant Strength: Big-Fisted Belt." O_O
    Headbomb said:

    BLUN10
    * Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1?

    BLUN38
    * Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1?

    When a weapon has variable "plusses" depending on conditions, the enchantment value is set to the highest number.
    Headbomb said:

    BOOK68 / BOOK87 / BOOK88
    * Shouldn't the general name for these be "Book"?

    BOOK68 has a special name on purpose (you receive it knowing this is a book valuable enough to let you enter Candlekeep, not just any random book). The other two don't need to be identified.
    Headbomb said:

    BOOT06 / BOOT12
    * Shouldn't the general name for these be "Boots"?

    BOOT06 doesn't need to be identified. "Worn-out Boots" works fine as a general name, IMO.
    Headbomb said:

    BPNOTE
    * Shouldn't the general name for this be "Note/Letter"?

    BPRNG1
    * Shouldn't the general name for this be "Ring"?

    These don't need to be identified.
    Headbomb said:

    BRAC03
    * Shouldn't the identified name be Bracers of Defence AC 6 per the others (BRAC01/BRAC02)?

    When an item has a unique name, it is used in lieu of the other one.
    Headbomb said:

    BRAC11
    * Shouldn't the general name for this be "Bracers"?

    Probably, and the general description should also be reassigned to #6791.
    Headbomb said:

    BRAC18 / BRAC19
    * Shouldn't the general name for these be "Gauntlets"?

    Probably, and the general descriptions should also be reassigned to #6798.
    Headbomb said:

    BULL07
    * These should probably be named "Bullet of Fire +1"

    BULL08
    * These should probably be named "Bullet of Ice +1"

    BULL09
    * These should probably be named "Bullet of Electricity +1"

    CLCK05
    * Shouldn't this be named "Cloak of Balduran +1"?

    Done.
    Headbomb said:

    DNNOTE
    * Shouldn't the general name for this be "Note/Letter"?

    Doesn't need to be identified.
    Headbomb said:

    ENMACE / ENMORN / ENSTAFF / ENSW1H01 / ENSW1H02 / ENSW2H
    * Should these have strengths requirements? If so, they should probably be listed in the description (would require new strings however).

    Yeah... :(
    Headbomb said:

    HAMM04
    * Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1?

    No; see above.
    Headbomb said:

    HELM07
    * Shouldn't this be named "Helmet of Balduran +1"?

    Done.
    Headbomb said:

    MISC1J
    * Shouldn't the general name for these be "Gem"?

    Doesn't need to be identified (and it's done on purpose—this is not a regular gem, but an item required to complete Durlag's Tower).
    Headbomb said:

    MISC2O
    * Shouldn't the general name for these simply be "Lock of Succubus Hair" per MISC51?

    No, you only learn Kirinhale is a succubus after identifying her hair.
    Headbomb said:

    MISC56
    * Identified name should be "Broken Weapon" (capital W)

    Done.
    Headbomb said:

    MISC67
    * General name for this should be "Brun's Dead Son" instead of "Brun's Dead SonSTATITICS:Weights: 110"

    Yes, the general name needs to be reassigned to #16324.
    Headbomb said:

    MISC76
    * Shouldn't the general name for these be "Potion"?

    MISC77
    * Identified name for this should be "Skull of Kereph" or "The Dream Skull" instead of "Skull of KerephSTATISTICS:Weight: 1"

    Not used.
    Headbomb said:

    MISC89
    * Shouldn't the general name for these be "Amulet"?

    Yes, should be reassigned to #6852.
    Headbomb said:

    MISC90
    * "Body" should be capitalized in both the general/identified name

    Done.
    Headbomb said:

    MISC13 / MISC1E / MISC54 / MISC55 / MISC65 / MISC66 / MISC67 / MISC68 / MISC69 / MISC79 / MISC80 / MISC90 / MISC96 /
    * General name should probably simply be "Body" or "Corpse" for all of them for consistency
    * Identified name should probably be "Foobar's Body" or "Foobar's Corpse" for all of them for consistency

    None of them need to be identified.
    Headbomb said:

    MISC49
    * General / Identified name should be "Melicamp the Chicken" (with caps)

    Done.
    Headbomb said:

    MISC71
    * General name should probably be "Book"

    MISC76
    * General name should probably be "Potion"

    MISC77 / MISC81
    * General name should probably be "Skull"

    Don't need to be identified/not used. However, in the case of MISC81, the identified name should be reassigned to #17311 and the identified description to #17302.
    Headbomb said:

    MISC82
    * General name should probably be "Ancient Armor". Broken Armor seems to imply the same uselessness as a Broken Weapon resulting from the Iron Shortage.

    Probably, but you don't need to identify this, so it shows up as "Ancient Armor" right away.
    Headbomb said:

    POTN17
    * General name should probably be "Potion"

    POTN23
    * General name should probably be "Oil"

    You don't need to identify them, so you'll never see these.
    Headbomb said:

    POTN47 / POTNMARE
    * Identified name should probably simply be "Marek's Antidote". Or at the very least "Marek's Potion of Antidote" (with caps)

    LOPOTN20
    * Identified name should probably simply be "Lothander's Antidote". Or at the very least "Lothander's Potion of Antidote" (with caps)

    Done.
    Headbomb said:

    POTN48
    * Identified name should probably be "Vial of Mysterious Liquid" (with caps).
    * I suggest putting the general name as "Vial of Liquid" rather than "Potion"

    Did the first part; you'll never see its general name though, and it would require a new string.
    Headbomb said:

    RINGJOIA
    * General name should probably be "Ring"

    RSBOOT
    * General name should probably be "Boots"

    Don't need to be identified.
    Headbomb said:

    RSBRAC
    * General name should probably be "Bracers"

    This one appears intentional to me, but then I'm not a dev. @CamDawg?
    Headbomb said:

    DNNOTE / RSNOTE1 / RSNOTE2 / RSNOTE3 / SCRL2I to SCRL3E / SCRL3I / SCRL3Z / SCRL5R / SCRL5S / SCRLAUTO / SCRLDRA / SCRLKAR / SCRLNEI / SCRLTAR / SCRLVAIL / SCRLZHA
    * General name should probably be "Note" or "Letter" depending on the length. This would reserve "Scroll" for magical scrolls.
    * Identified name should probably be "Gorion's Letter" (SCRL2J) / "Sarevok's Letter to Slythe" (SCRL2K) / etc...

    These don't need to be identified, so you'll see "Letter," etc. instead of "Scroll." Proper identified names would be really nice! Unfortunately, they'd all require new strings.
    Headbomb said:

    SCRL3F
    * General name should probably be "Book"

    SCRL77
    * General name should probably be "Scroll"

    SCRLPET
    * General name should probably be "Scroll"

    Don't need to be identified.
    Headbomb said:

    shld06P
    *Identified name should probably be "Redshield +1"

    This item is not used.
    Headbomb said:

    SLNG11
    * Should this really have an enchantment level of 2 since this isn't quite a Sling +2?

    I see an enchantment level of 1?
    Headbomb said:

    STAFN1
    * General name should probably be "Quarterstaff"

    Yes, this needs to be reassigned to #6351.
    Headbomb said:

    SW1H03
    * Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1 instead of 3?

    No; see above.
    Headbomb said:

    SW1H12
    * General name should be "Longsword"
    * Identified name should be "Hull's Long Sword" (no dot)

    Removed the dot, but this item doesn't require identification.
    Headbomb said:

    SW1H13
    * General name should probably be "Dagger" (compare with SW1H15 for example)

    A moonblade is a type of magical sword, not actually a dagger even though it uses that type/proficiency so Xan can wield it.
    Headbomb said:

    SW1H17
    * General name should probably be "Short Sword"

    Doesn't need to be identified.
    Headbomb said:

    SW1H18
    * General name should probably be "Bastard Sword" (if this change is made, MISC1B's general name should probably be renamed to "Butter Knife" as well)
    * Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 0 instead of 2?

    First part is intentional. As for enchantment level, it should be 4.
    Headbomb said:

    SW1H19
    * General name should probably be "Longsword"
    * Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1 instead of 0?

    It's "Vampiric Sword" on purpose (see general description). Enchantment stuff is for @CamDawg.
    Headbomb said:

    SW1H24
    * Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1 instead of 4?

    SW1H79
    * Shouldn't the enchantment be set to 1 instead of 3?

    No; see above.
    Headbomb said:

    SW2HD1
    * General name should probably be "Two-Handed Sword"

    Doesn't need to be identified.

    hook71Medillen
  • HeadbombHeadbomb Member Posts: 213
    edited January 2013
    @Jalily: Re "Doesn't need to be identified" ... Aren't those still visible elsewhere even when identified? Like in the tool-tip that pops up when you over them with your mouse? I could swear I saw those general names somewhere other than before identification, but maybe I'm thinking of before and after identification and I'm just confused.

  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    CamDawg said:

    Jalily said:

    Headbomb said:

    MISC67
    * General name for this should be "Brun's Dead Son" instead of "Brun's Dead SonSTATITICS:Weights: 110"

    Yes, the general name needs to be reassigned to #16324.
    @Jalily, we need to be careful here--in my local build, 16323 is 'Brun's Dead Son' and asisgned to the general name. 16324 is also 'Brun's Dead Son' and assigned as the identifed name and the general description. We should assign the same string to the name (0x8, 0xc) and the other to the descript (0x50, 0x54) but I need to know which you'll put where.
    In both builds I have, #16323 is the general name and description (and includes the statistics), and #16324 is the identified name (and does not include the statistics).
    CamDawg said:

    Jalily said:

    Headbomb said:

    MISC89
    * Shouldn't the general name for these be "Amulet"?

    Yes, should be reassigned to #6852.
    Done. Keeping with the other changes, shouldn't #10234 have a capital 'A'?
    Edwin's Amulet? It's already capitalized for me?

  • agrisagris Member Posts: 571
    @Jalily and @CamDawg I haven't read every line, but I noticed acceptance of the changes to the Helm and Cloak of Balduran, which included modifying their names to include "+1". I wholeheartedly encourage you not to pursue this route of extreme standardization, as idiosyncrasies lend themselves to a good narrative and a believable world. I don't mean the buggy type of idiosyncrasies, but if these are to be the item names then I feel simply "Helm of Balduran" and "Cloak of Balduran", as they were originally written, are fine. They are unique items, and do not need all their modifiers in the name, especially when they were not there to start with and do not interfere with gameplay in any way (i.e. their descriptions note the +1 effect clearly).

    I recognize that precedence is against me (Firetooth + 4, Blahblah + 2, etc), but I would hope that there is respect for the original game and we do not pass a cold, clinical naming filter over all items in an effort to completely standardize them. There is a place for standards (like in the representation of statistical information) and there is a place for differences. I think item's names, with their corresponding histories and varied abilities, benefit from some nonstandardization.

    That's my 2 cents.

  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,420
    You're preaching to the choir @agris, but strings are the domain of @Jalily. I've argued against adding the +x to the unique item names, as Kondar +1 implies the existence of a Kondar +2, +3 et al., but I've already lost that argument.

  • agrisagris Member Posts: 571
    Heh, where was that battle fought @CamDawg ? there are some old timers like me who would have liked to lend their voice to it, I'm sure...

  • HeadbombHeadbomb Member Posts: 213
    edited January 2013
    Personally, w.r.t. to Helmet of Balduran and Cloak of Balduran, I feel the +1 is excessive in those two specific cases. But I mentionned it because I'd rather be comprehensive with potential issues. I'm fine with all the others however (i.e. Kondar +1 / The Protector +1 / Ring of the Princes +1 / The Guard's Ring +2 / Helmet of the Noble +1 / etc.)

    @Jalily

    I missed

    RING25
    * Should be "Koveras's Ring of Protection +1" or even better "Koveras's Ring of the Princes +1"

    Opting for the latter would also resolve the issue about the Ring's description raised in [Part 4] (http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/13374/headbombs-big-list-of-weapons-and-items-issues-part-4).

  • HeadbombHeadbomb Member Posts: 213
    Some more for @Jalily

    AX1H07
    *Should probably be named simply Bala's Axe or Wizard Slayer, and have the dual names in the description only, similar to

    AX1H19
    *General name is Battle Axe +3, should be Battle Axe (especially since the identified name is Golden Axe +1)

    BRAC19
    * Should maybe be named Gauntlets of Crushing +4?

    SW2H08
    * Description is rather ... bland and lacking... It's simply "Durlag's Pride" with the stats, and no flavour text at all.

    And for @CamDawg

    BULL04
    * Name is Sunstone Bullet +1
    * Description says THAC0 +1, 1d4+2, +2 Fire
    * Behaviour is TACH0+1, 1d4+2, +0d6 [can't figure our damage type, probably fire] (No save)
    * Bullets have a Slay effect on them

    CHAN03 and CHAN08
    * Both are apparently Chainmail of the Dead +2
    * Properties are inconsistant between each other [Strength]
    * Descriptions are inconsistant between each other [One is the real Mail of the Dead description, the other is a generic Chainmail Description]

    PLAT06
    * This armor really should have AC 2, since it's a non-magical Ankheg Plate (the vanilla version disallowed to wear rings, and its behaviour was consistant with an Ankheg Plate +1). So I believe this should either be made a normal Ankheg Plate (AC 2), or it should be turned into an Ankheg Plate +1 (and disallow rings as per vanilla) [I think the latter was the intended behaviour]. It's been raised several times in the forums so it would be nice to have a opinion on what this should be.

    I raised this one before, and apparently there was no problem in your build, but NI still tells me that BULL04 has these weird properties. The problem could very well be with NI however.

    Question w.r.t. to "enchantment levels for non-weapons are never checked by anything AFAIK." Is there a Shield Bash attack in BG? Because then the enchantment levels would become relevant for shields [which is why I mentionned them, but I never used a shield bash if the option is there, so I don't know].

  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,420
    edited January 2013
    Hey, speaking of arguments I've lost...
    Headbomb said:

    PLAT06
    * This armor really should have AC 2, since it's a non-magical Ankheg Plate (the vanilla version disallowed to wear rings, and its behaviour was consistant with an Ankheg Plate +1). So I believe this should either be made a normal Ankheg Plate (AC 2), or it should be turned into an Ankheg Plate +1 (and disallow rings as per vanilla) [I think the latter was the intended behaviour]. It's been raised several times in the forums so it would be nice to have a opinion on what this should be.

    This has been discussed endlessly and I'd rather not derail this thread with more. I don't believe it's going to change.
    Headbomb said:

    AX1H19
    *General name is Battle Axe +3, should be Battle Axe (especially since the identified name is Golden Axe +1)

    Actually, this one is mine since we need to assign strings. General name is now 6654 and general descript is 6656.
    Headbomb said:

    BULL04
    * Name is Sunstone Bullet +1
    * Description says THAC0 +1, 1d4+2, +2 Fire
    * Behaviour is TACH0+1, 1d4+2, +0d6 [can't figure our damage type, probably fire] (No save)
    * Bullets have a Slay effect on them

    I raised this one before, and apparently there was no problem in your build, but NI still tells me that BULL04 has these weird properties. The problem could very well be with NI however.

    The damage effect is 2 points of fire damage, so it's good. The slay effect is for an incredibly specific BG2 use, which should be kept but not explicitly stated in in its description.

    Sunstone bullets can kill the BG2 Shadow Altar in the Umar Hills in one shot.
    Headbomb said:

    CHAN03 and CHAN08
    * Both are apparently Chainmail of the Dead +2
    * Properties are inconsistant between each other [Strength]
    * Descriptions are inconsistant between each other [One is the real Mail of the Dead description, the other is a generic Chainmail Description]

    chan08 is actually just generic +2 chain mail; it just needs an updated identified name. The description actually does mention it's enchanted and AC 3. I'm assigning 30694 (chain mail +2) as the identified name.
    Headbomb said:

    Question w.r.t. to "enchantment levels for non-weapons are never checked by anything AFAIK." Is there a Shield Bash attack in BG? Because then the enchantment levels would become relevant for shields [which is why I mentionned them, but I never used a shield bash if the option is there, so I don't know].

    Nah, no offensive capabilities for shields.
    Jalily said:

    CamDawg said:

    Jalily said:

    Headbomb said:

    MISC67
    * General name for this should be "Brun's Dead Son" instead of "Brun's Dead SonSTATITICS:Weights: 110"

    Yes, the general name needs to be reassigned to #16324.
    @Jalily, we need to be careful here--in my local build, 16323 is 'Brun's Dead Son' and asisgned to the general name. 16324 is also 'Brun's Dead Son' and assigned as the identifed name and the general description. We should assign the same string to the name (0x8, 0xc) and the other to the descript (0x50, 0x54) but I need to know which you'll put where.
    In both builds I have, #16323 is the general name and description (and includes the statistics), and #16324 is the identified name (and does not include the statistics).
    Whoops, yeah, that's what I meant. I'm assigning 16324 as the names and 16323 as the descripts.

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