BG2 npc mods
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so, by now i have tried almost all the NPC's in BG2, im still missing Mazzy and Cernd.
But i also want to try out some mods.
So far i have found 2 mods that sound interresting.
The Amber and the Angelo mod.
Can you recommend any great NPC mods?.
Are there any NPC mods that Intertwine? that would be really cool.
But i also want to try out some mods.
So far i have found 2 mods that sound interresting.
The Amber and the Angelo mod.
Can you recommend any great NPC mods?.
Are there any NPC mods that Intertwine? that would be really cool.
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Saerileth is another long-time favorite of many people. It's very do-goodie though, and the voice acting is atrocious.
Then there's Chloe, which to me seemed well-made even though I didn't quite like the character herself.
Valen is very fringe, as the character is very shallow and blatantly overpowered; it's being reworked atm, but I don't know how far along that new version is.
Those are pretty much the ones I've personally tried. I can also very much recommend the deArnie Romance mod; it's not a new NPC, but it remains to me the best-written character mod I've seen.
And NPC mods are very hit/miss. There are so many things that could go wrong and you often need only one or two small things that irks you before you uninstall it.
1.) Overpowered / Underpowered
It's most of the time one of these two. It's very rare to find NPC mods that are balanced. And if it isn't attributes then it's equipment you can get for them.
2.) Voices
Most of the voices you get with the NPC mods aren't done by a professional, and it can be quite frustrating to listen to some of them.
3.) Dialogues
Some people are very picky with dialogues, and they should be as close to the original NPC's as possible. If you add too much emotions (Torment style) then it will feel different to the normal NPC's and stick out. If the dialogues are too long/short you'll notice it aswell. And if there are spelling errors or grammar, you'll notice that aswell. I personally uninstall any mod that has spelling errors.
4.) Personality
This is very divided and some people like one thing while other prefer something else. What might work for you might not work for someone else.
5.) Mary sue
Many people like to think that the NPC they have made is special. Not like the 'plain' Valygar or Keldorn. This NPC has to be strong, brave, quick and you must lick their boot before falling in love.
6.) Solaufein
In my opinion this mod is a perfect example of something great that got much time put into it, yet fails so horrible on so many levels.
7.) Saerileth
I don't mind it that much if Anomen goes pompous holier than thou attitude on me. But if a young teenage girl is going to tell me (Bhaalspawn of quite some levels, who beat Sarevok) what to do.... I could strangle her.
Tyris Flare is extremely well done and the woman who voiced her did a much better job than the average mod (she actually is trying to make a career out of VAing).
Kulyok's Xan is a mod I enjoy, but some may feel he talks too much. I've played through with him the last 3 or 4 times.
Kivan and Deheriana is another mod I enjoy (it's mostly just Kivan
Kelsey is meant to be alright. Nothing over-the-top, but meant to fit in well.
It isn't hyperbole. She really can die of a broken heart.
I had the misfortune of playing the mod. And it's just god awful. There is literally nothing redeeming about it, and that is me being kind. I mean I am generally forgiving to mods, I like Solaufein after all, but the Saerileth mod (and the other NPC mods by the same authors) is just appalling.
The author writes Saerileth so that she speaks in "ye auld english" which makes no sense in the setting, and the author uses the "ye auld english" wrong. Anyone who knows anything about English Literature could tell you that.
The NPC itself its excruciatingly irritating. She interjects on EVERYTHING. Literally. She almost universally disagrees with the PC on everything if he/she even slightly deviates from the "Lawful Blind" path that she follows. And as aforementioned if you behave contrary to her ideals even slightly she can literally die of a broken heart. And she whines and bitches more than Aerie and Carth put together.
There is an LP on the LP archive that has entire updates dedicate to detailing the clusterf*ck that is the Saerileth mod.
Also she is 15 and in love with the CHARNAME from before she meets him because apparently Tyr (the god) told her that they were destined to be together. And if you refuse her she dies. Of a broken heart.
It should be played to experience how laughingly bad it is. lol.
Actually I have one redeeming thing to say about Saerileth, if I recall correctly, she at the very least isn't overpowered. She is a paladin but somewhat sucks at it. Unlike Tsujatha whos is a Gary Stu if ever there was one.
EDIT:
I really Kelsey but unfortunately I don't really have a use for him as I usually have an abundance of magic users to choose from.
I also have a soft spot for Nathaniel. He is a bit of a glass cannon sadly, and isn't the best written mod out there. But I like him.
I also like pretty much all of the mods @LiamEsler has done.
I believe this line to be indicative of the quality of the dialogue. XD
Nothing reads quite as well as pure hate. Thanks for linking that. Personal highlight about the Keldorn romance:
"There is a line for me in this messed up game. I've had sex with my sister, I'm currently trying to sweet talk a 15 year old in taking her pants off for Tyr. I'm also forcing my sister to become a lesbian with a psuedo-insane moron. But old man sex? Get the hell out of here, I'm not touching that with someone elses brain. I hate anyone who wants to play that, but not nearly as much as I hate the people who are making this"
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I've had Kelsey (simple but good), Kivan (killing machine but overly dramatic, less Dirty Harry, more offering hugs and saying 'there there'), Xan (Entertaining but occasionally annoying), Solaufein (Good if you like 'em emo, otherwise /wrist) and Irenicus (freakin' awesome if freakin' overpowered but that makes sense).
I never want to take more than 1 Modded NPC along per time since usually they don't talk to eachother and I hate missing out on banters.
*Edit* I've moved on to the sequels to the original thread and actually spent a minute crying with laughter at the invective and bile sent in Saerileth's direction. DarthMordechai is one funny, angry person.
But yeah, she's not a good NPC. I first played the mod when I was around 15, so it didn't register to me how severely, cripplingly terrible her personality and story was. I tried it again in my twenties and realized how wrong I'd been.
However, to its discredit, he talks a lot. I mean a LOT. I mean he won't shut the fuck up and give his opinion on everything.
There is a point where enough's enough.
Also a good female bard NPC out there, though I can't remember her name at the moment (anyone help?) she has red hair, tells stories that are well written and is not at all overpowered.
Yeah that isn't a good thing for an NPC mod. That is loading down the mod with a load of unnecessary bullcrap; and it's why people say that with the mod installed the game becomes Saerileth's Gate: A Tale of Saerileth. The mod might be a bit more tolerable if it didn't take over everything.
@LiamEsler
You should be flatterred, cos I love me some story. :-P
Definitely correct me if I'm wrong, though...