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Concern about Stalker Backstab Bug importing to BG2EE

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  • ChippyChippy Member Posts: 241
    You should ask an actual modder with current knowlege, as I just tinkered (over 10 years ago) but consider getting to know the 2da files, under (I think) Rang01 to Rang04 - each number was a kit, then locate the special ability ABSPCL301 (example) which designates the backstab modifier and either delete the next one (that you'd get at a higher level bringing you to x4) or ask someone if you can create a new ability (as above but ensure it's unique) to reduce it by 1.

    It may sound more complicated than it is, Near Infinity was the tool I used, I'm sure there's another one now.

    This is all assuming it actually raises to x4 as you level up anyway.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,316
    No clue. What happens when you export the character and import them again into BGEE? Do you still have the 3x?
  • PugPugPugPug Member Posts: 560
    They externalized backstab.2da in 1.2, meaning they made it moddable. Maybe that had something to do with it.
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  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,316
    You could always just remove the XP cap, give yourself say 300,000 XP, and see what happens. That might give you an idea of what to expect.
  • byrne20byrne20 Member Posts: 503
    I play a stalker and I have the same issue. Level 8 with a 3x backstab multiplier
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  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    It sounds like there might be a bug causing the Stalker to use the standard Thief BS progression.
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    I think more likely the stalker used to have an ability at level 1 and 9 that granted it +1 backstab multiplier; when it was externalized, it became tied to the 2da and the level 1 / 9 ability was removed, but any character that had already been created would still have that ability, resulting in a net bonus.

    That's pure speculation, though; I haven't looked specifically at the Stalker's CLAB table to see what it used to be.

    I can confirm that this anomaly only occurs with pre-patch saves being loaded after the patch.
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  • PugPugPugPug Member Posts: 560
    It'll probably have the same error, but you could remove the ability in EE Keeper. I'm just not sure what the ability is.
  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511
    Call the extra backstab multlier a Bhaalspawn power.

    It's not as if all characters start on a level playing field anyway.
  • BerconBercon Member Posts: 486
    @Dee The import process could reset those abilities, like it does with hit points
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  • byrne20byrne20 Member Posts: 503
    @thespace
    Its a new game with my stalker exported from my pre 1.2 patch.
  • byrne20byrne20 Member Posts: 503
    Its not the end of the world for me. My stalkers only one level away from getting the 3x backstab multiplier anyway (level 9 I believe). My only concern is that if I import this character in to bg2ee will the multiplier change to 4x once I reach the correct level (I think its 17).
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  • BerconBercon Member Posts: 486
    You can fairly easily edit your character with Near Infinity or EEKeeper to fix this issue. Or BG2EE might even fix it by removing the incorrect bonuses as I suggested.
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