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How many wisdom boosts are there?

nanonano Member Posts: 1,632
in Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition
There's the machine of Lum and the good path in the Hell trials and, if fate cooperates, the Deck of Many Things. Is that it?

I'm thinking a cleric of Lathander>thief will be a really cool combo but I want more spells and in particular the 2 6th level spells for 24 wisdom. So if I want wisdom from the Deck does that mean I have to make it halfway down Watcher's Keep before I dual?

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  • CheryChocieCheryChocie Member Posts: 47
    The three tomes from BG1 if you want to pretend you took your toon through BG1 or if indeed you did take it through BG1 are the only other boosts I know of.
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    CheryChocie is correct, to my knowledge. And yeah, if you want the wisdom point from the DoMT you'll need to get through Watcher's Keep before you dual-class.
  • nanonano Member Posts: 1,632
    Okay, thanks all. I wonder how early I can raid the keep... is it possible to get through the portal maze without fighting everything?
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    My friend did all of WK starting at level 13 in Chapter 2 (did the whole thing in a single run, ended up with a party around levels 17-21). He's not an 'elite' player, either, so take from that what you will.
  • ChildofBhaal599ChildofBhaal599 Member Posts: 1,781
    wait, you mean that if you dual a cleric then future wisdom boosts don't give the bonus spells?
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    No they do. He's talking about the +1 Core Stat from the Deck of Many Things. Obviously if he uses the deck after dual-classing his Core Stat will no longer be Wisdom, and so he won't get the Wisdom bonus.
  • AlkaluropsAlkalurops Member Posts: 269
    edited December 2013
    Actually, I think the +1 to core stat favors spellcasters for dual/multi class characters. So a cleric/mage will get int (mage > cleric), and a fighter/cleric will get wisdom (cleric > fighter).

    Edit: I just checked DOMT.dlg and apparently this is the order in which classes are checked:
    1. thief/bard: dexterity
    2. mage: intelligence
    3. cleric/druid: wisdom
    4. strength

    So yeah, if you're a cleric/thief you'll get dexterity.

    But to be honest, if you're going to reload until you draw the right card you might as well just CLUA a tome of wisdom in.
    Post edited by Alkalurops on
  • nanonano Member Posts: 1,632
    Hmm, I was also hoping to dual at a relatively sane level but I guess level 12 is right out unless I can avoid killing too much on the way down. And there's that demon room, and Aesgareth himself, both of which will probably kick my butt... I don't need the wisdom or anything but it sounds like a fun challenge now.
  • Dzuk5Dzuk5 Member Posts: 129
    edited December 2013
    nano said:

    There's the machine of Lum and the good path in the Hell trials and, if fate cooperates, the Deck of Many Things. Is that it?

    I'm thinking a cleric of Lathander>thief will be a really cool combo but I want more spells and in particular the 2 6th level spells for 24 wisdom. So if I want wisdom from the Deck does that mean I have to make it halfway down Watcher's Keep before I dual?

    i know 2 mods for bg2ee with can give 2 points and their are fine mods:
    Tales of the Deep Gardens- it will give also wery usfull items with max +2 wepons but with other very gut skills
    I Shall Never Forget

    link for mode section:
    http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/23726/bgii-ee-compatible-mod-list/p1
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    There is also a Silver Ioun Stone you can buy at the inn in Amkethran that gives +1 Wis while equipped, so you can actually make it to 25 Wisdom near the end of the game if you really really really want to. :)
  • NightmareNightmare Member Posts: 20
    What are the 2 spells you get for having 24 wisdom? Or does he mean extra 2 level 6 memorize slots?
  • LathlaerLathlaer Member Posts: 475
    @NIghtmare
    The latter, it's only slots. It sucks that you have to have it maxxed to get a meager 1 extra 7th level slot.
  • NightmareNightmare Member Posts: 20
    ah ok that does suck
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    Lathlaer said:

    @NIghtmare
    The latter, it's only slots. It sucks that you have to have it maxxed to get a meager 1 extra 7th level slot.

    Well, the bonuses are cumulative. So at 25 wis you actually get:
    Level 1 - 3 extra
    Level 2 - 3 extra
    Level 3 - 2 extra
    Level 4 - 4 extra
    Level 5 - 4 extra
    Level 6 - 3 extra
    Level 7 - 1 extra

    That's quite a lot of extra spells in total, and that last point going from 24 to 25 wis nets you a level 6 and a level 7 - not shabby.
  • nanonano Member Posts: 1,632
    Yep, it's like having another holy symbol. Not bad at all.
  • CrevsDaakCrevsDaak Member Posts: 7,155
    @nano your last comment make me remember this...
    There is a Druid-only ring on ToB that gives extra 6th and 7th lvl spells, just with UAI you should be able to wear it.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    CrevsDaak said:

    @nano your last comment make me remember this...
    There is a Druid-only ring on ToB that gives extra 6th and 7th lvl spells, just with UAI you should be able to wear it.

    Ooo, sneaky! I like it.
  • CrevsDaakCrevsDaak Member Posts: 7,155
    @Cyteen I just realized it, just because I NEVER had a druid in my party, and I made lots of runs.
    Well, 80% of my runs are solo runs :P
  • mjsmjs Member Posts: 742
    100% of my runs are...never mind
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