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Fresh(L1) HoF players, how did you deal with the Orc Cave?

Specifically, how did you handle the group of archers that all go aggro in the center?

My party of 6 rest-grinded until my Fighter/Cleric got to Level 5 to cast Animate Dead while my solo Sorc picked up Monster Summoning I as their first L3 pick.

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  • Commander_AbakusCommander_Abakus Member Posts: 8
    edited November 2014
    My way of dealing with the whole cave was tedious, but It worked.

    Pull the group of orcs with any character who can take a punch or two and walk towards the exit. Place the rest of your characters near the exit beforehand. The orcs will follow you outside when you leave the cave.

    Next, try to kill an orc before you get anyone of your party killed. Enter the cave again, the orcs won't follow you. Rest. -> repeat

    I I didn't use any summons up until now and I'm using an abridged version of this technique to deal with the crypts in the Vale of Shadows. It's tiresome but viable.

    Edit: For those who want to know what my party setup looks like (not the ideal kind of group for HoF)

    Human Paladin: Longsword, mace and shield proficiency

    Dwarven Berserker: Dual wield axes

    Human Sun Soul Monk

    Half-Elf Fighter/Druid, Spear (she wrecks hard with Call Lightning)

    Halfling Thief

    Elf Mage

    FrogmanJuliusBorisov
  • ZyzzogetonZyzzogeton Member Posts: 526
    edited November 2014
    I'm specifically talking about the center group, where you can only lure two Orc mobs before you end up being funneled into the Orc Elite who will trigger aggro for his entire group which contains a bunch of Archers.

    For reference (with my third group) that lone mob in both pictures is the Orc Elite.

  • MathsorcererMathsorcerer Member Posts: 3,003
    Hold Person and Summoning spells.

    JuliusBorisov
  • CrawleyCrawley Member Posts: 74
    You play HoF starting lv 1? Good luck!
    Normally they recommend tackling them on lv 15 ;)

  • AltairAltair Member Posts: 127
    It's much more challenging and fun doing HoF from level 1! I am doing it solo with a Fighter/Mage/Cleric. Have just reached 4th level of Dragon's Eye and am already lv 12/12/13. For the orc cave summons and charm person are the key...

  • Manveru123Manveru123 Member Posts: 52
    Okay, let me actually give you a solution instead of tips that might or might not work. The key thing to remember is that monsters are unable to follow you to Easthaven. First, lure them out of the cave. Then run to Easthaven. Go back, summon monsters, deal as much damage as you can, run to the inn, rest up, go back, repeat. Each time you rest, monsters that you lured out will be near the entrance to the cave, so they won't clump the spawnpoint.

    I actually had to use this strategy to defeat the final group (the one with three Ogres), as it was ridiculous otherwise. Things will get better from Kuldahar onward, assuming your team composition is correct. Good luck.

  • ZyzzogetonZyzzogeton Member Posts: 526
    edited November 2014
    I get the feeling some people didn't read the first post.

  • B4nJ0B4nJ0 Member Posts: 93
    edited November 2014
    Pull way back and zone into the city, they will not follow you. Chese the zoning and kill them 1 by 1.

    That was my only chese fight in the whole run to be honest, then my f/c started to summon ud and I had 0 problems to tank the goblins you will encounter later. At around 1m exp for pc I didn't feel the contest too much different from an insane mode game and I didn't used summon anymore (only exception resting), but still I had way more fun.

    HoF lvl 1 is the way to go ;)

  • @Zyzzogeton‌ Weird. Could be related to the fact that it's my very first post here. Who knows.

  • MapleMaple Member Posts: 26
    I did it completely face to face without resting.

    My party comp:
    Dwarven Defender ( 2 Defensive Stance )
    Cleric/Ranger ( Lvl 1: Bless, Cure Light Wounds, Command, Lvl 2: Cure Moderate Wounds )
    Fighter/Cleric ( Same as above )
    Fighter/Thief
    Archer
    Sorcerer(Lvl1 Spell: Magic Missile, Color Spray, Burning Hands, Lvl 2 Spell: Glitterdust)

    Basically there are three orcs that can be lured out first.
    Buff with bless. Then lead with Dwarven Defender who will get the attention of all orcs.
    Focus the Shaman with Archer and Sorcerer.
    C/R and F/T goes up and fight the top three archers there.
    DD and F/C goes down towards the bottom archers.
    Sorcerer cast Glitterdust on bottom archers.
    And after all Glitterdust have been used and before the second Defensive Stance wear out you should have finished all of them.

  • EndarireEndarire Member Posts: 229
    A had an Elf Fighter/Mage/Thief who did a [i]lot[/i] of kiting. Lots of running around, shooting things with my composite longbow, and, duh duh duh, using the map transition between the orc cave exterior and Easthaven (and occaionally between the orc cave interior and exterior) to get auto-saves and to recover after killing each foe - as prudent.

    Hide helped, as did having the right spells prepared. [i]Shield[/i] is wonderful. [i]Expeditious retreat[/i] is useful once you've gotten away and just want to run faster.

    If you're talking about the final encounter in the southwest corner with the ogres, I never did kill all those foes when soloing Heart of Fury. I killed one ogre and maybe some orcs, but I never felt the need to kill all of them once I had looted the cave's two chests.

  • DragonRiderDragonRider Member Posts: 43
    edited November 2014
    This was a VERY tough battle for my party. I didn't know about the trick of traveling back to Easthaven, so it took me about 7 or 8 re-loads before I was able to conquer that group of orcs.

    In case you are curious, here is my HoF party:
    Elf Fighter/Mage
    Dwarf Fighter/Cleric
    Half-Elf Cleric/Ranger
    Half-Elf Fighter/Druid
    Bard
    Halfling Fighter/Thief


    I grouped my party near the entrance/exit of the cave and had my Fighter/Thief pull the orcs to my party by shooting an arrow at the first orc he saw and then running back to where the rest of the party was waiting. I had my Fighter/Cleric and Cleric/Ranger cast Draw Upon Holy might while he was doing that. Right as the Fighter/Thief came around the bend, I had my Fighter Druid cast Entangle to try to slow some of the orcs down. When the archers made it through the entangle, they stayed close together, so I had my Fighter/Druid cast Curse on them and then followed up with Hold Person spells from the Fighter/Cleric and Cleric / Ranger. I got lucky and managed to paralyze a few of them. I then focused all of my attacks on the orcs that could attack, taking them out one at a time, and casting more Hold Person spells when they grouped together.

    When a character got close to death, I had him/her run around the cave to avoid attacks until the orcs targeted someone else or I could take them out with ranged attacks. Sunscorch saved one of my characters when it blinded an orc that was about to kill him. The neat thing there was that the blindness effect caused that orc to completely ignore my party for a while. Another thing that was helpful was using Bless to counter the Shaman's Curse spell. My Fighter/Druid also managed to charm one of the orcs (2nd level spell, Charm Person or Mammal). The orc did not stay charmed for very long, but it resulted in a couple of attacks where he wasn't hitting my party. He even did some damage to the orc he attacked.

    I chose poorly for my level 1 mage spells, so My Fighter / Mage just attacked. If I were to start over, I would have chosen Charm Person and Spook. Those spells would have been much more useful than the ones I chose. Then again, Chromatic Orb did manage to blind one of the ogres further into the cave, so it wasn't a total waste of a choice.

    Anyway, I ended up using all of my healing potions and spells to keep my characters alive. At the end of the fight, I don't think anyone had more than 10 HP left.

    I hope that helps.

    Post edited by DragonRider on
  • sarevok57sarevok57 Member Posts: 5,046
    I started doing this as well, starting HoF with a level 1 team, and it has been difficult and fun, especially doing it with 6 fighters ( the orc cave was very VERY hard with that team) but once I got to kuldahar my last 3 team mates hit level 7 then I dualed them over to cleric/thief/mage and all is good again :)

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