3E aligment rules for alignment tied classes
trinit
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i expect this will cause some anger with purists, but i think game should handle the options of evil rangers, good druids, neutral paladins etc.
especially because there are many characters in both bg games that do not conform to the various aligment rules for certain classes. i think this is even more viable, if alignment becomes flexible in-game variable for the playing characters, as suggested in previous discussions.
especially because there are many characters in both bg games that do not conform to the various aligment rules for certain classes. i think this is even more viable, if alignment becomes flexible in-game variable for the playing characters, as suggested in previous discussions.
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Alignment doesn't even do anything in the game until Throne of Bhaal. It should DO something, right?
But I support actions changing your alignment like with Neverwinter Nights, how you'd have 0/100 .
In terms of allowing separate alignments, I see these requirements to be a bit closed-minded in recognizing people of all types, as AndreaColombo said! Requiring rangers to be good reminds me of Salvatore's Drizzt series, where all rangers seem to have this inherit desire to protect people, yet the games seem to present rangers that deny this assumption - look at that Beastmaster in SoA's Copper Coronet!
It'd be nice to allow Paladins to be lawful anything.
Probably should be made as a different class entirely.
And a Paladin switching to a Dark Paladin class should be based upon actions/reputation.
Paladin to Fallen Paladin, to Dark Paladin. Likewise for Ranger, perhaps.
The fluid alignment change is a planescape thing cos for what i understand on that game, the actions you have on the planes inflict more influence on you alignment than the acts on the prime.
Not gonna complain if the change is made, but must be done well if not this can cause some instability on the game consistency.
More spusifically a neutral evil stalker cuz I personally think you've got to be a little evil to have a class name like that.
And he would be drow named varin'fel and is basically the opposite of drizzt in everything but class.
evil or good ranger are equally dangerous, but act and behave very differently, although they may have the same abilities. so in most cases, people want to see more flexible alignment choices where that seems sensible (there is no good reason for ranger not to be evil or neutral, just like the druids, without betrying the base principles of their class.)
i remember neutral paladins existed (adherence to law above everything else) and now we see evil paladin implemented in game as a blackguard kit. i do not think ALL alignment requirements should be removed, but more flexibility would make sense (especially in rangers and druid case).
most sensible requirements i've seen, revolve around law/chaos scale, not good/evil.
Also, D&D classes were designed to fit literary stereotypes. That's why things work the way they do. As the literary culture changed, these restrictions began to dissolve. Alignment restrictions are appropriate for BG as they are as long as we consider BG to be a product of its time rather then our own time.
Jaheira shoud had became a fallen druid after a time or in BG II with a quest to make her understand the neutrality of a druid to restore her druid status. But unfortunally that fall in the original content problem.
Well, they are evil in my book. They never listened to reasoning, and probably if they could, they would just destroy whole civilisation.
But I agree with Jaheira. She is not perfect as a druid either... And as a harpher.
Believe it or not, the druid class is actually a specialty priest.
This fact isn't advertised just like they didn't really let on that a specialty wizard is actually a kit. But, if you look at the old resources, it's all right there: different weapon and armor restrictions, spells from different spheres, special powers, and the specialty priest XP progression.
What I'm getting at is that Jaheria (being a harper) and the Shadow Druids may actually belong to a technically different specialty priest class. This may be A justification for why they are allowed different alignments.