[(BG1, BG2)Bug] Chromatic Orb (SPWI118.SPL) inflicts save on caster; damage is negated on save(0914)

Igneous

Current behaviour: There are several problems with Chromatic Orb.

1. According to the dialogue bar, the 1st-level version of the spell sporadically (i.e., ~50% of the time) subjects the caster to a saving throw (see attached screenshots). This does not preclude the saving throw subjected to the spell's target. Also, though I've tested for this phenomenon numerous times, the caster never seems to fail this erroneous save. The save is applied only when casting the 1st-level version of Chromatic Orb; caster levels 2-7 appear unaffected.

2. The 1st-level version of the spell is not applying its Blindness effect to the target upon a failed save. The feedback string is not displayed in the dialogue bar (e.g., "Firbead Elvenhair- Blindness"), nor do they suffer from the effects of Blindness. The secondary effects of higher-level versions of Chromatic Orb appear to apply correctly.

3. If the target of the spell makes a successful save, all effects of the spell are negated, including damage, in contrast to the spell's description, which states that the damage is applied even on a successful save. This applies to all caster level versions of the spell.

4. If cast at a neutral NPC, a successful save will result in the NPC not turning hostile, a likely consequence of successful saves erroneously negating all effects.

Expected behaviour: The 1st-level version of Chromatic Orb should not subject the caster to a saving throw, and should correctly apply the Blindness effects to the spell's target upon a failed saving throw. Targets who make successful saves against the spell should still be subjected to the spell's damage. Targetting neutrals NPCs with the spell should turn them hostile.

Games affected: BGEE, BG1/BG2 (to varying degrees).

Notes: These problems look to be holdovers from vanilla BG1.

In BG1: The caster is subjected to the erroneous save at 1st level. The 1st-level Blindness effects are not applied. All effects are negated upon a successful save, though this was intentional in BG1 and is consistent with the BG1 spell description. Successful saves don't turn neutrals hostile.

In BG2: The 1st-level Blindness effects are not applied.

These bugs are still present as of Build 0629.

Igneous

Update: These bugs are still present as of Build 0629.

CamDawg

Building upon and expanding on @Igneous report... this is what we found with Fixpack for the mage (spwi118) and avenger version (spdr101) of the spell:

• Cast at level one, spell duration is incorrect (10 seconds instead of 6) and the AC penalty is applied to the caster not the target. The Orb is not causing the blindness icon or the string 'blinded'. The bad target is what is causing the save reported by @Igneous in 1, above, and the blindness failure is mentioned in 2.
  
• At level five durations are also wrong (20 or 120 instead of 30) and one of the effects (display icon) has an incorrect power level
• At level 10 the string bypasses magic resistance, meaning the target could resist the actual effect but the dialogue window will report target as 'petrified' (or induce a save)
• At level 12 the slay effect also bypasses magic resistance

In BGEE the higher level spell headers (7+) have been removed, but they're still present in the avenger version and need these fixes.

3. If the target of the spell makes a successful save, all effects of the spell are negated, including damage, in contrast to the spell's description, which states that the damage is applied even on a successful save. This applies to all caster level versions of the spell.

In the file itself, the bogstandard damage has no save; if this is the observed behavior then we probably need to look at the engine. Note that the 'burn damage' at level 3 can be saved against, though the regular damage has no save.

4. If cast at a neutral NPC, a successful save will result in the NPC not turning hostile, a likely consequence of successful saves erroneously negating all effects.

Hostile flag is set correctly, so worth looking at in BGEE as well.

CamDawg

// chromatic orb has a few incorrect targets and MR checks
COPY_EXISTING ~spdr101.spl~ ~override~ // chromatic orb, stalker version
              ~spwi118.spl~ ~override~ // chromatic orb, wiz version
  READ_LONG  0x64 "abil_off"
  READ_SHORT 0x68 "abil_num"
  READ_LONG  0x6a "fx_off"
  WHILE ("%abil_num%" > 0) BEGIN
    SET "abil_num" = ("%abil_num%" - 1)
    READ_SHORT  ("%abil_off%" + 0x10 + (0x28 * "%abil_num%")) "min_lev"
    WRITE_SHORT ("%abil_off%" + 0x0e + (0x28 * "%abil_num%")) 90 // corrects range
    PATCH_IF (("%min_lev%" = 1) OR ("%min_lev%" = 5) OR ("%min_lev%" = 10) OR ("%min_lev%" = 12)) BEGIN
      READ_SHORT ("%abil_off%" + 0x1e + (0x28 * "%abil_num%")) "abil_fx_num"
      READ_SHORT ("%abil_off%" + 0x20 + (0x28 * "%abil_num%")) "abil_fx_idx"
      WHILE ("%abil_fx_num%" > 0) BEGIN
        SET "abil_fx_num" = ("%abil_fx_num%" - 1)
        READ_SHORT ("%fx_off%" +        (0x30 * ("%abil_fx_idx%" + "%abil_fx_num%"))) "opcode"
        READ_LONG  ("%fx_off%" + 0x0e + (0x30 * ("%abil_fx_idx%" + "%abil_fx_num%"))) "duration"
        PATCH_IF (("%duration%" > 5) AND ("%min_lev%" = 1)) BEGIN // fix level 1 durations
          WRITE_LONG  ("%fx_off%" + 0x0e + (0x30 * ("%abil_fx_idx%" + "%abil_fx_num%"))) 6
        END
        PATCH_IF (("%duration%" > 5) AND ("%min_lev%" = 5)) BEGIN // fix level 5 durations, power
          WRITE_LONG  ("%fx_off%" + 0x03 + (0x30 * ("%abil_fx_idx%" + "%abil_fx_num%")))  1 // power
          WRITE_LONG  ("%fx_off%" + 0x0e + (0x30 * ("%abil_fx_idx%" + "%abil_fx_num%"))) 18 // duration
        END
        PATCH_IF ("%opcode%" = 0) BEGIN // armor class penalty
          WRITE_BYTE ("%fx_off%" + 0x02 + (0x30 * ("%abil_fx_idx%" + "%abil_fx_num%"))) 2 // target: preset target
        END ELSE
        PATCH_IF (("%opcode%" = 139) OR ("%opcode%" = 142)) BEGIN // display portrait icon or display string
          WRITE_BYTE ("%fx_off%" + 0x0d + (0x30 * ("%abil_fx_idx%" + "%abil_fx_num%"))) 1 // dispel/not bypass
        END ELSE
        PATCH_IF ("%opcode%" = 55) BEGIN // slay
          WRITE_BYTE ("%fx_off%" + 0x0d + (0x30 * ("%abil_fx_idx%" + "%abil_fx_num%"))) 2 // not dispel/not bypass
        END
      END
    END
  END
  BUT_ONLY_IF_IT_CHANGES

SethDavis

@CamDawg - O_O well.... I'm glad I didn't have to try and figure that out lol. Thanks

CamDawg

@SethDavis Heh, be sure to avert your eyes when I get around to posting the 'Immunities Don't Suppress All Effects' code.

SethDavis

checking this one now

blech, if it's possible whoever made that spell was greener than me.

Potentially fixed - @CamDawg 's fix has been applied and I have mangled the spell file and added the icon/string for blindness into the effect's onAdd function. This will cause redundant messages any time a spell/item effect adds blindness and a displayString for it.

Avenger_teambg

Confirmed mangled - the spell is no longer safely loaded in editor
The description talks about higher than 7th levels, but those are not in the file, well, i guess this is because it is bg1?
The stunned icon is displayed without saving throw (in level 5)

SethDavis

Ah, i forgot to take the icon/strings out of SPDR101.SPL - too much to hope that that was the one causing problems?

I'll try to add in the save now.

Avenger_teambg

If you asked me about the editor problems, then nah, it was because some effect was removed without updating the effect block. There is an increasing amount of these due to the usage of weidu scripts that won't properly update the effect block size. I saw lots of potions unable to load too. Please note, these will cause problems with other simpler modding tools. Not sure about NI, probably it survives with mild complaints
@CamDawg can you post your future WeiDU scripts to not cause this problem?

CamDawg

NI shows these as properly indexed, 3306 bytes. Clean 0730 install.

SethDavis

>.< that's not good. might have to round up the lot of them near the end and see if we can fix the size/offsets

fixed the saves/strings though I think

Avenger_teambg

I retract the mangledness. Though @CamDawg, my freshly download spwi118.spl is only 2026 bytes long
Full hexdump here:

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02eeh Resource
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031eh Resource
0326h Min level 00000000
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033ah Opcode 008d
033ch Target type 02
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0347h Resistance 01
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034eh Resource
0356h Min level 00000000
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0606h UNKNOWN 00000000
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0617h Resistance 01
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0636h UNKNOWN 00000000
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064eh Resource
0656h Min level 00000000
065ah Max level 00000000
065eh S. throw type 00000001
0662h S. throw bonus 00000000
0666h UNKNOWN 00000000
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066ah Opcode 008d
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0677h Resistance 01
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067dh Min. prob. 00
067eh Resource
0686h Min level 00000000
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06a7h Resistance 01
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06adh Min. prob. 00
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06c2h S. throw bonus 00000000
06c6h UNKNOWN 00000000
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06d7h Resistance 01
06d8h Duration 00000000
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06f2h S. throw bonus 00000000
06f6h UNKNOWN 00000000
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0706h Timing method 00
0707h Resistance 01
0708h Duration 00000078
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070dh Min. prob. 00
070eh Resource
0716h Min level 00000000
071ah Max level 00000000
071eh S. throw type 00000001
0722h S. throw bonus 00000000
0726h UNKNOWN 00000000
072ah Feat block 31
072ah Opcode 008d
072ch Target type 02
072dh Power 01
072eh Parameter 1 00000000
0732h Parameter 2 00000019
0736h Timing method 01
0737h Resistance 01
0738h Duration 00000000
073ch Max. prob. 64
073dh Min. prob. 00
073eh Resource
0746h Min level 00000000
074ah Max level 00000000
074eh S. throw type 00000000
0752h S. throw bonus 00000000
0756h UNKNOWN 00000000
075ah Feat block 32
075ah Opcode 008b
075ch Target type 02
075dh Power 01
075eh Parameter 1 000036db
0762h Parameter 2 00000000
0766h Timing method 01
0767h Resistance 01
0768h Duration 00000000
076ch Max. prob. 64
076dh Min. prob. 00
076eh Resource
0776h Min level 00000000
077ah Max level 00000000
077eh S. throw type 00000001
0782h S. throw bonus 00000000
0786h UNKNOWN 00000000
078ah Feat block 33
078ah Opcode 00ae
078ch Target type 02
078dh Power 01
078eh Parameter 1 00000000
0792h Parameter 2 00000000
0796h Timing method 04
0797h Resistance 01
0798h Duration 00000078
079ch Max. prob. 64
079dh Min. prob. 00
079eh Resource EFF_E05
07a6h Min level 00000000
07aah Max level 00000000
07aeh S. throw type 00000001
07b2h S. throw bonus 00000000
07b6h UNKNOWN 00000000
07bah Feat block 34
07bah Opcode 008e
07bch Target type 02
07bdh Power 00
07beh Parameter 1 00000000
07c2h Parameter 2 00000037
07c6h Timing method 00
07c7h Resistance 00
07c8h Duration 00000078
07cch Max. prob. 64
07cdh Min. prob. 00
07ceh Resource
07d6h Min level 00000000
07dah Max level 00000000
07deh S. throw type 00000001
07e2h S. throw bonus 00000000
07e6h UNKNOWN 00000000

Avenger_teambg

Well, chromatic orb's description was wiped
The strref in the tlk table at 12174 is intact. So, if there was no problem with that bg1 description, just fix both spl.
Otherwise the effects seem correct everywhere.
Lets say: confirmed not fixed

Tanthalas

@SethDavis

Looks like this one just needs the spell description and tooltip back.

lansounet

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lansounet

Dun dun dun... I was checking description from BG2. Damn inconstistency between both games.
Well there is still the thing about lvl5 ability's display string/portrait icon.

If we want to stay in line with BG1 save vs. spell negates everything, damage and effect.

Avenger_teambg

Huh, you are right, level 5 has 2 effects without setting spell saving throw. @CamDawg

Avenger_teambg

Problem was that the patch above sets only the 'resistance' field, not the saving throw type field.

lansounet

SPDR101 is still the BG2 version of Chromatic Orb.

SPWI118 is currently a mix between BG1 and BG2.

So which is it?
- BG1 spell, which has more chances to affect target but a save negates everything. Only the effect of current caster level is used.
- BG2 spell with high save bonus against secondary effect (+6) but damage can't be saved against. Caster has access to orb colors of his current level and below.
- Keep as it is and update description

Tanthalas

I think we should just import the BG2 version of the spell to keep everything consistent.

lansounet

Nobody picked it up so I tried to do some things with it in NI, but before listing the changes, one question :

- Description is currently from BG1 (strref 12174), it only accounts for effects up to level 7, which is the highest level reachable in vBG1 (sans ToTSC), with ToTSC you could reach up to lvl 9, in BGEE probably lvl 10. What do we do with these levels?

Attached file is a corrected spwi118, strictly conforming to BG1 description :

- Added a save vs. spell for lvl5 spell ability to display string/portrait icon effects.
- Added save vs. spell to all damage effects.
- Corrected strref (12174).

Observations :

- Might as well make a copy of it and rename to SPDR101 (Avenger's Chromatic Orb resref).
- With the BG1 behaviour (spell abilty used is that of the latest obtained level), it is a bit too strong at lvl5. So much that you might as well skip lvl6 until you reach lvl7 required experience and fill your lvl1 memorization slots with Chromatic Orb (Edwin + Ring of Wizardry, stun galore with no bonus on save)

Can we have a consensus on this spell? You can tell I care much this spell

lansounet

Removed fixed BG1 spell if we're gonna use BG2 version.

Tanthalas

Well, I'll just repeat my opinion, I think the spell should adhere to the BG2 description.

I can't comment on balance issues though.

Lol, now that I think about it, we should check if Daevorn (sp?) isn't a pushover now that he's back to being human.

lansounet

@Tanthalas
He's back to human but he has custom items (magebrac/mage05), like most bosses, granting him many immunities. He had them in vBG1 too anyway (albeit less fleshed out ones), no idea why he was labelled an Ankheg.

EDIT

Tanthalas said:

Well, I'll just repeat my opinion, I think the spell should adhere to the BG2 description.

I mostly agree there but the save bonus (-6) from BG2 is a bit harsh for BG1 IMO when you don't have Greater Malison (though there's still Doom, Chant(bad), and uh... something?)

Tanthalas

@lansounet
Hmm, well, we can either halve that save bonus and remove some utility from the spell in BG2EE or we can implement a complicated function to the spell where the save bonus is modified with the level of the caster so that it can stay balanced for BGEE and BG2EE.

lansounet

A bit more thought leads me to think BG2 version is just fine actually, never seen people complain about it from BGT standpoint (don't know if Tutu restores BG1 spells or uses BG2 resources).

Anyone else wants to chime in? BG1 vs BG2 vs middle-ground-mix?

lansounet

I'm not giving up so easily.

Has a decision been made about which version of that spell to use?

CamDawg

I think we've been using BG2 spells more or less across the board.

lansounet

@CamDawg Okay I'll be pulling up my vBG2 version and see if anything is wrong with it. Surely you would know if fixpack already touches that one? Guess I'll check the shiny new doc before you answer that

EDIT : Well quite a bunch indeed. So what's the course of action? Provide vBG2 file (they surely have it though) and apply WeiDU magic ripped from fixpack, or just provide fixpack'd file?

lansounet

Ringing some bells @SethDavis for a word on this, please xoxo