Bug: Chapter 7. Killing Benjy causes reputation drop.

Jason_Silverain

When entering the Flaming Fist Headquarters to rescue Duke Eltan Benjy summons Mercenaries then attacks.
Occur: On Benjy's death party reputation dropped from 20 to 10.
Expected: No reputation change.


Edit: This only occurs if the Players party kills him directly, people wishing to avoid this can use the Mercenaries to kill him through friendly fire when they cast Glyphs of Warding.

Morrinn

During chapter 7, you learn that Duke Eltan is being poisoned by his supposed healer in the Flaming Fist compound. When you enter the compound, you encounter Benjy, one of Sarevok's pawns who has several mercenaries (Not actual flaming fist members) with him. He confronts you and attacks with his team, but killing any of the mercenaries nets you massive reputation loss, as if you just killed Flaming Fist guards.

Expected Behavior:
Killing the merceneries holding Duke Eltan hostage should not incur reputation penalties.

Morrinn

Addition:
I did some more looking into it and it appears you only loose rep when you kill the two named mobs:
Benjy and Dilos, who are both Sarevok's henchmen.

elminster

@xxxsmb1987xxx made a bug posting about this awhile ago, so you aren't the only one experiencing it. I can't find it unfortunately in part due to the crappy search engine. But rest assured you aren't the only one.

Arthmoor

Indeed you are not. I had the same thing happen and thought it was intentional, so I reloaded, left, and never went back again after that.

Balquo

This has been fixed in the recent patch.

Avenger_teambg

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Avenger_teambg

@Balquo what do you say about this?

Sed

Noticed this as well. I used invisibility 10 radius and charmed him on my way out ^^

Balquo

Fix:

COPY_EXISTING ~benjy.cre~ ~override~
    WRITE_BYTE 0x273 2 //Class (fighter)
BUT_ONLY

frownupon

i am still losing rep. i have patched. any way to fix or will i have to start over?

frownupon

still losing rep for killing flaming fist mercenaries even tho i read that this was fixed in last patch. why am i still losing rep? any way to fix?

Mazuo

Edit: Ah, understood. OP was not referring to the event I believed he was.

forgotten_wolf

i think the main poster is talking about the saving the duke and how he is losing rep for it...

Balquo

I think Benjy still gives a rep lose which will be fixed. There may be others that have been missed as well but I'd need more details on where you encountered these mercenaries.

frownupon

it is inside the flaming fist compound

Sandman

Just curious why you lose rep for killing the Flaming Fist mercenary in the Samuel side quest? I lost 10 rep for killing a dude that attacked me and in the middle of nowhere with no one around watching. How da hell does anyone know I killed a FF mercenary opposed to some ogre raping him out in no mans land lol? Wasn't such a big deal, I have over 100,000gp anyway and just donated to get my rep back up but still it is sort of...silly to say the least :-).

Balquo

@Sandman Yeah, agreed that is silly. But you also lost rep in vBG1 so BG:EE didn't change that.

beff745

*Current Behavior: Defending against flaming fist attacks in chapter seven causes severe reputation loss.

*Expected Behavior: Defending against flaming fist attacks in chapter seven should not case reputation loss.

O_Bruce

Beat them with your fists, whch will result in them being uncontious instead of killed, instead of reporting something that isn't a bug. Hold person and wands of paralizis works well, too.

beff745

Even when confronted by Benjy and company at the flaming fist compound? I thought I remembered fighting them in original BG without losing any reputation, but it has been a while.

Communard

The guards are acting under orders they think are legitimate, you should run away from them or find some other way to non-lethally evade them if you don't want people to think you are a murderous evildoer.

beff745

Yeah, I should've thought it through more. Thank you for the responses!