"Multiplayer will see many new and great improvements over the coming months".
I certainly hope you mean weeks...... Having to wait months to play the feature I bought the game for would be pure torture.
No one said you had to buy the game as soon as it came out.
Or purely for multiplayer.
I too was hoping for a built in matchmaking system but im still enjoying the game solo, and will be happy to come back to it once multiplayer is working
No, but they did say that Improved Multiplayer already existed when I pre-ordered the game... and saying otherwise on stinkin Twitter doesn't count. Good for you that you're enjoying the game solo... But I don't really care.
Regardless if anyone said I had to buy it purely for multiplayer, that is why I and many others bothered with this version instead of just sticking to the cheaper version from gog.
@Riolathel You really don't seem to understand the issue, at all. Sure he didn't need to purchase the game or even have Pre-ordered, but that is NOT the point he and all the rest of us are making. The point is that he DID purchase the game when it first came out and was not awarded what was promised.
It does not matter in the least that Beamdog changed their stance/status after the game was released. Yes, we understand they made a mistake, ran out of time, tweeted a ton, etc. What we are looking for now is a goal, a glimpse of shiny-sparkly-golden hope that someday soon we'll have a product that was worth the time and money we spent and waited on. We want A DATE too look forward to. Is that really to much to ask for?
Or perhaps that is entirely the problem and they have not yet set a goal or don't know how to set them. That could explain why they're in this mess to begin with...
@VoidSorcerer More likely they're spending more time working on fixing the problem so that you'll have it sooner, rather than trying to guess how long it will take. If you've been following the release, you know that announcing any release date is a guessing game at best--and with some of the reactions received from the fan-base, missing a "tentative ETA" is tantamount to...I don't know...stealing your dog, or something.
So it'll be ready when it's ready. When it's close to being done, they'll probably announce something. If you want to be up to date, keep following twitter; every so often Trent and Cam tweet something in the way of information there.
@Aosaw There is not a programming company in this world that will survive w/o goals, dates and deadlines. Believe me Beamdog has one, even if it is hugely exaggerated one way or the other. But that date/number/shot I the dark is exactly what I and every other multiplayer fan in this game is looking for; and it should not be hard to release.
Even companies that release "Coming Spring 2014" are doing a heck of a lot better job at appeasing their client base then Beamdog. Perhaps there is more to the release of the heads of Beamdogs chief of staff from their former companies then they've let known. (A lack of communication and goal orientation amounts to termination in my company, just saying.)
I have no desire to use Hamachi, its more than a little absurd that I need to use a ten year old work around to access the so called new and improved multiplayer.
If you are happy with how things stand, great. You got exactly what you wanted for your 20 bucks.
But I and may others are trying to get a thread going to catch the eye of the devs. Multiplayer severs are important to many of us, and they should not be able to make a promise for the release, and then not deliver.
where on there do you see them "promise" you multiplayer?
"that someday soon we'll have a product that was worth the time and money we spent and waited on."
If it is not worth your time why did you buy it the second it came out rather than waiting a few days or a week and reading before you bought?
How is it a waste of time and money when your own ignorance is the only reason you cannot enjoy the game; I've had a blast and i got more than my 20 dollars worth already; at this point Multiplayer when it is ready will just be icing on the cake.
Multiplayer has been upgraded to include matchmaking functionality, and games can be played across multiple platforms. Adventurers on iPad, Mac, PC and Android Tablets can all play Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition together.
Lol, I notice they have now changed their website to say match-making is coming the future.
@Necavit Well seeing as the game isnt on mac or andriod i guess that's "false advertising" too then right?
Or maybe it has something to do with the complicated and time consuming procedure it takes to make this stuff happen. They had to push the game out when they did ready or not due to budget issues..
You remember this is a 15 man team on their first project right?
Have some patience
Improved Multiplayer
Online multiplayer will be upgraded at a future date to include matchmaking functionality, and games can be played across multiple platforms. Adventurers on iPad, Mac, PC and Android Tablets will then all play Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition together.
Regardless of team size it shouldn't take more than 2 weeks post-release to go from writing on your website " Online multiplayer has been upgraded to include matchmaking functionality , and games can be played across multiple platforms. Adventurers on iPad, Mac, PC and Android Tablets can all play Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition together." (which I know it had last saturday) to
" Online multiplayer will be upgraded at a future date to include matchmaking functionality , and games can be played across multiple platforms. Adventurers on iPad, Mac, PC and Android Tablets will then all play Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition together." (emphasis mine)
But they shouldnt make promises they cannot keep, that blurb on the website claimed multiplayer match-making was in the game until just recently today.
Yes. Yes that is false advertising.
I get that you want to defend this game, but I dont really care for excuses. I just want to know when to expect match-making. And I dont think that's too much to ask for, seeing as I, and many others were fed false promises about the multiplayer.
When I brought it up with Nathan, he legitimately hadn't realized the wording was like that. When I brought it up with them earlier this week, they thought I was talking about the blurb on the Windows page (which just says "has been improved"). As soon as they realized what the wording actually was, they changed it.
where on there do you see them "promise" you multiplayer?
"that someday soon we'll have a product that was worth the time and money we spent and waited on."
If it is not worth your time why did you buy it the second it came out rather than waiting a few days or a week and reading before you bought?
How is it a waste of time and money when your own ignorance is the only reason you cannot enjoy the game; I've had a blast and i got more than my 20 dollars worth already; at this point Multiplayer when it is ready will just be icing on the cake.
I pray that you honestly don't mean half of what you said in the above post. Because it was ignorant, assuming and rather insulting.
Fact 1: Multiplayer was advertised for this game LONG before it's release date. That is a fact, and I'm not going to dispute or bring up details on the over-all issues that it further caused.
Fact 2: I Pre-Ordered the game under the assumptions of what was advertised was what you got.
Fact 3: At the time of purchase there was NO information about the games shortcomings. As I had already pre-purchased the game, I saw no need to wait for something that was promised. (As most individual users who understand how pre-purchasing a game works)
Fact 4: I have said nowhere that I do not enjoy other features in the game and have not had fun on solo. You're simply twisting what I've said to make it so that Multiplayer seems like the only functionality that I care for. I've had fun single player, but my NUMBER 1 point of purpose was for Multiplayer, but not only.
Fact 5: I'm glad you feel you've gotten your $20.00 - I have yet to feel the same. And while improvements have been promised and yes, I will wait for them, it still leaves a dirty taste in the mouth.
@voidsorcerer If you beat singleplayer you got your $20 worth.
Honestly i don't know what you people consider a waste of money nowadays.
20 bucks gets me half a tank a gas, and that doesn't last nearly as long as the game has entertained me
20 bucks will buy me two movies.. at the most im getting 5-6 hours of entertainment there.
60 bucks will buy me a AAA title game that will give me mediocre gameplay for about 10-15 then an unsatisfying end.
You are making a huge deal about a small amount of money, and while i agree that multiplayer should have worked at release.. it didnt.
Sometimes that's how life works, constantly complaining about, and starting thread after thread about how this game "sucks" "disappoints" or "is a waste of time and money" is NOT going to bring you multiplayer any faster.
You're lucky to even live in a time and place where playing this game is possible and all you can do is complain
Very much agreed there Rio, i feel like there too much rage in this section of the forum (which was recently changed so ppl can get games going, not complain about it) and even tho i myself was somewhat disgruntled about not having a functional mp on release, ive still had some good fun with it already, dispite of the bugs.
I suppose wishing for ppl to have patience is like wishing for world peace, but still, it's a nice sentiment...
@Riolathel@Liberelli I enjoy this game immensely and I don't regret buying it at all because I know that patches will come, and eventually multiplayer will be playable without annoyances, but you have to take into account that anyone can buy BG1 for half the price at GOG, and will get to the same place BGEE is now with just some mod installations minus the new content of course. In fact at release single player was much better with the original than the enhanced edition, and right now multiplayer works better on the original than on the enhanced edition(it still sucks but slightly better).
And If you guys think waiting quietly will get you a working multiplayer faster, you're just being nonsensical. They will and they are focusing on things that impact the majority of players which is fixing singleplayer and developing for other platforms, so if we don't complain they'll keep pushing multiplayer fixes because no one is bothered by it.
I'm glad you changed the text on the website and I hope for a functional matchmaking system. I have to be honest and say I'm still dissapointed it's a few months off before I can matchmake, but I guess I'll have to be a little patient. I hope the investment will be worth it in the end and that it's not too late to get a decent multiplayer population going when that times comes. The intention of the thread was not to "whine" but merely to point out something that needed alot of pointing, since many fans want to take up the multiplayer aspect of the game and buys the game for this reason (myself included). So let's just accept the fact that the mistake was made, nothing can make it go away but alot of development and there's no other choice than to wait for it. It doesn't make it right, but that's the lay of the land.
I can understand voicing your opinions and asking about multiplayer.
But a lot of the comments being made are just unnessecary and not in the least bit constructive..
If you're unhappy with the product you purchased you have no one to blame but yourself; all of us could have waited until after the game was released to buy it, but we didn't.
That is the risk you take when you pre-order the game, and i personally don't regret it. I believe that since this is their first product they should be cut a little slack. Now that they have had a successful release and have made a few mistakes (unavoidable) their next will improve.
If you were really that displeased with the game you would have gotten a refund; There were many who did. Instead we get threads like this constantly that serve absolutely no purpose other than to QQ.
I'm sorry to sound so fanboyish.. If you honestly think the wait for multiplayer has been bad for this game. You should go talk to some of the Diablo 3 fans still waiting on pvp 8 months after release.
Am i mistaken in the assumption this section is for ppl wanting to play mp? Maybe i misread that somewhere. The fact of the matter is, like riolathel said, these discussions are pointless. Dont you think things might go smoother if you voiced your issues in the support section or just hit them up on twitter or something. You know, talk to them directly in a manner and place that serves your purpose and gets results? I'm not saying you guys should stop complaining (maybe a little :P) but there are many better ways of getting this accross than discussing it here like this. These discussions just go round and round, 'fanboys' vs 'whiners' so to speak, it just never ends.
It would actually be even more helpful if people could post their multiplayer requests (port forwarding is a good example) in the Feature Requests forum.
If you're unhappy with the product you purchased you have no one to blame but yourself; all of us could have waited until after the game was released to buy it, but we didn't.
That is the risk you take when you pre-order the game, and i personally don't regret it. I believe that since this is their first product they should be cut a little slack. Now that they have had a successful release and have made a few mistakes (unavoidable) their next will improve.
If you were really that displeased with the game you would have gotten a refund; There were many who did. Instead we get threads like this constantly that serve absolutely no purpose other than to QQ.
I'm sorry to sound so fanboyish.. If you honestly think the wait for multiplayer has been bad for this game. You should go talk to some of the Diablo 3 fans still waiting on pvp 8 months after release.
You see, when you disregard our complaints as "QQ" even after we mentioned our reasons, plus pin the fault on us for them not releasing a working multiplayer, that doesn't make you sound like a fanboy, just ignorant and disrespectful.
When you pre-order a game you don't take a gamble, you pay for the game with the features they listed, and they did list the enhanced multiplayer as a feature. Diablo 3 has nothing to do with this, Blizzard's errors don't excuse Beamdogs', and even if they did Blizzard officially announced that they wouldn't be able to make pvp in time(months before the release), they didn't just tweet it.
I already said that I am fine with the game because I know they'll fix it in time, but don't condescend people who are complaining, they deserve better than that.
If you're unhappy with the product you purchased you have no one to blame but yourself; all of us could have waited until after the game was released to buy it, but we didn't.
That is the risk you take when you pre-order the game, and i personally don't regret it. I believe that since this is their first product they should be cut a little slack. Now that they have had a successful release and have made a few mistakes (unavoidable) their next will improve.
If you were really that displeased with the game you would have gotten a refund; There were many who did. Instead we get threads like this constantly that serve absolutely no purpose other than to QQ.
I'm sorry to sound so fanboyish.. If you honestly think the wait for multiplayer has been bad for this game. You should go talk to some of the Diablo 3 fans still waiting on pvp 8 months after release.
You see, when you disregard our complaints as "QQ" even after we mentioned our reasons, plus pin the fault on us for them not releasing a working multiplayer, that doesn't make you sound like a fanboy, just ignorant and disrespectful.
When you pre-order a game you don't take a gamble, you pay for the game with the features they listed, and they did list the enhanced multiplayer as a feature. Diablo 3 has nothing to do with this, Blizzard's errors don't excuse Beamdogs', and even if they did Blizzard officially announced that they wouldn't be able to make pvp in time(months before the release), they didn't just tweet it.
I already said that I am fine with the game because I know they'll fix it in time, but don't condescend people who are complaining, they deserve better than that.
I completely agree with this post, not that I wanna start any kind of flame war at all.
We don't keep making threads about this, when I made this thread I didn't see any threads clarifying this issue? I even made a thread requesting a sticky in this forum, with intel gathered so far on how to make MP work. Only after the discussion in this thread, the website was updated with the correct information and isn't promising something that isn't there anymore. As far as I can tell, people who gave constructive additions to this thread "saved" beamdog from being viewed as money hungry deceivers, if anything. And don't even give me that "suggestion" part of the forum rant, because if were not allowed to discuss the lack of multiplayer in the multiplayer forum, then.. well you get it. At least were keeping the discussion on these forums, where they belong, close to the devs (as close as it gets) and close to the fans and everyone who cares.
I'm not interested in whining on and on about it, but I'm not taking any kind of fault in voicing my opinion and nor should anyone else who made beamdog aware of it.
I'm not really going to add anything to the discussion here but, I just want to add support to the guys who feel or felt cheated by the state of the game at release.
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Regardless if anyone said I had to buy it purely for multiplayer, that is why I and many others bothered with this version instead of just sticking to the cheaper version from gog.
@Aosaw
Thank you for the information... I'll be happy enough with it being playable, I think... though the matchmaking does seem pretty fun.
I was promised better multiplayer, I bought it for this reason.
Sick of the attitude that it is fine to promise something, not deliver it on release date, but simply add it to patch limbo.
It does not matter in the least that Beamdog changed their stance/status after the game was released. Yes, we understand they made a mistake, ran out of time, tweeted a ton, etc. What we are looking for now is a goal, a glimpse of shiny-sparkly-golden hope that someday soon we'll have a product that was worth the time and money we spent and waited on. We want A DATE too look forward to. Is that really to much to ask for?
Or perhaps that is entirely the problem and they have not yet set a goal or don't know how to set them. That could explain why they're in this mess to begin with...
More likely they're spending more time working on fixing the problem so that you'll have it sooner, rather than trying to guess how long it will take. If you've been following the release, you know that announcing any release date is a guessing game at best--and with some of the reactions received from the fan-base, missing a "tentative ETA" is tantamount to...I don't know...stealing your dog, or something.
So it'll be ready when it's ready. When it's close to being done, they'll probably announce something. If you want to be up to date, keep following twitter; every so often Trent and Cam tweet something in the way of information there.
Even companies that release "Coming Spring 2014" are doing a heck of a lot better job at appeasing their client base then Beamdog. Perhaps there is more to the release of the heads of Beamdogs chief of staff from their former companies then they've let known. (A lack of communication and goal orientation amounts to termination in my company, just saying.)
If you are happy with how things stand, great. You got exactly what you wanted for your 20 bucks.
But I and may others are trying to get a thread going to catch the eye of the devs. Multiplayer severs are important to many of us, and they should not be able to make a promise for the release, and then not deliver.
This is extremely disappointing news.
http://www.baldursgate.com/
where on there do you see them "promise" you multiplayer?
"that someday soon we'll have a product that was worth the time and money we spent and waited on."
If it is not worth your time why did you buy it the second it came out rather than waiting a few days or a week and reading before you bought?
How is it a waste of time and money when your own ignorance is the only reason you cannot enjoy the game; I've had a blast and i got more than my 20 dollars worth already; at this point Multiplayer when it is ready will just be icing on the cake.
Under features.
Improved Multiplayer Online
Multiplayer has been upgraded to include matchmaking functionality, and games can be played across multiple platforms. Adventurers on iPad, Mac, PC and Android Tablets can all play Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition together.
Lol, I notice they have now changed their website to say match-making is coming the future.
Bout bloody time they stop the false advertising.
Well seeing as the game isnt on mac or andriod i guess that's "false advertising" too then right?
Or maybe it has something to do with the complicated and time consuming procedure it takes to make this stuff happen. They had to push the game out when they did ready or not due to budget issues..
You remember this is a 15 man team on their first project right?
Have some patience
Improved Multiplayer
Online multiplayer will be upgraded at a future date to include matchmaking functionality, and games can be played across multiple platforms. Adventurers on iPad, Mac, PC and Android Tablets will then all play Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition together.
" Online multiplayer will be upgraded at a future date to include matchmaking functionality , and games can be played across multiple platforms. Adventurers on iPad, Mac, PC and Android Tablets will then all play Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition together." (emphasis mine)
But they shouldnt make promises they cannot keep, that blurb on the website claimed multiplayer match-making was in the game until just recently today.
Yes. Yes that is false advertising.
I get that you want to defend this game, but I dont really care for excuses. I just want to know when to expect match-making. And I dont think that's too much to ask for, seeing as I, and many others were fed false promises about the multiplayer.
And hey, mistakes are made, happens to all of us.
As long as they are aware that their consumers really would like an update on match-making, I am happy. I just dont want our concerns to be ignored.
I am also a little worried about the nature of match-making, will I still need to manually forward my ports?
Fact 1: Multiplayer was advertised for this game LONG before it's release date. That is a fact, and I'm not going to dispute or bring up details on the over-all issues that it further caused.
Fact 2: I Pre-Ordered the game under the assumptions of what was advertised was what you got.
Fact 3: At the time of purchase there was NO information about the games shortcomings. As I had already pre-purchased the game, I saw no need to wait for something that was promised. (As most individual users who understand how pre-purchasing a game works)
Fact 4: I have said nowhere that I do not enjoy other features in the game and have not had fun on solo. You're simply twisting what I've said to make it so that Multiplayer seems like the only functionality that I care for. I've had fun single player, but my NUMBER 1 point of purpose was for Multiplayer, but not only.
Fact 5: I'm glad you feel you've gotten your $20.00 - I have yet to feel the same. And while improvements have been promised and yes, I will wait for them, it still leaves a dirty taste in the mouth.
If you beat singleplayer you got your $20 worth.
Honestly i don't know what you people consider a waste of money nowadays.
20 bucks gets me half a tank a gas, and that doesn't last nearly as long as the game has entertained me
20 bucks will buy me two movies.. at the most im getting 5-6 hours of entertainment there.
60 bucks will buy me a AAA title game that will give me mediocre gameplay for about 10-15 then an unsatisfying end.
You are making a huge deal about a small amount of money, and while i agree that multiplayer should have worked at release.. it didnt.
Sometimes that's how life works, constantly complaining about, and starting thread after thread about how this game "sucks" "disappoints" or "is a waste of time and money" is NOT going to bring you multiplayer any faster.
You're lucky to even live in a time and place where playing this game is possible and all you can do is complain
I suppose wishing for ppl to have patience is like wishing for world peace, but still, it's a nice sentiment...
And If you guys think waiting quietly will get you a working multiplayer faster, you're just being nonsensical. They will and they are focusing on things that impact the majority of players which is fixing singleplayer and developing for other platforms, so if we don't complain they'll keep pushing multiplayer fixes because no one is bothered by it.
You got what you wanted for your money, great.
We feel we didn't.
If this feature was not promised on release, I would agree with you completely, I would wait patiently for these extra goodies.
But it was promised, so we have a right to make a little noise to get some answers.
But a lot of the comments being made are just unnessecary and not in the least bit constructive..
If you're unhappy with the product you purchased you have no one to blame but yourself; all of us could have waited until after the game was released to buy it, but we didn't.
That is the risk you take when you pre-order the game, and i personally don't regret it. I believe that since this is their first product they should be cut a little slack. Now that they have had a successful release and have made a few mistakes (unavoidable) their next will improve.
If you were really that displeased with the game you would have gotten a refund; There were many who did. Instead we get threads like this constantly that serve absolutely no purpose other than to QQ.
I'm sorry to sound so fanboyish.. If you honestly think the wait for multiplayer has been bad for this game. You should go talk to some of the Diablo 3 fans still waiting on pvp 8 months after release.
The fact of the matter is, like riolathel said, these discussions are pointless. Dont you think things might go smoother if you voiced your issues in the support section or just hit them up on twitter or something. You know, talk to them directly in a manner and place that serves your purpose and gets results?
I'm not saying you guys should stop complaining (maybe a little :P) but there are many better ways of getting this accross than discussing it here like this. These discussions just go round and round, 'fanboys' vs 'whiners' so to speak, it just never ends.
When you pre-order a game you don't take a gamble, you pay for the game with the features they listed, and they did list the enhanced multiplayer as a feature. Diablo 3 has nothing to do with this, Blizzard's errors don't excuse Beamdogs', and even if they did Blizzard officially announced that they wouldn't be able to make pvp in time(months before the release), they didn't just tweet it.
I already said that I am fine with the game because I know they'll fix it in time, but don't condescend people who are complaining, they deserve better than that.
They said they are hoping to get match-making early in the new year.
We don't keep making threads about this, when I made this thread I didn't see any threads clarifying this issue? I even made a thread requesting a sticky in this forum, with intel gathered so far on how to make MP work. Only after the discussion in this thread, the website was updated with the correct information and isn't promising something that isn't there anymore. As far as I can tell, people who gave constructive additions to this thread "saved" beamdog from being viewed as money hungry deceivers, if anything. And don't even give me that "suggestion" part of the forum rant, because if were not allowed to discuss the lack of multiplayer in the multiplayer forum, then.. well you get it. At least were keeping the discussion on these forums, where they belong, close to the devs (as close as it gets) and close to the fans and everyone who cares.
I'm not interested in whining on and on about it, but I'm not taking any kind of fault in voicing my opinion and nor should anyone else who made beamdog aware of it.
It's just not good practice.