Would people like a Ironman mode?
Aliteri
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As in 'no reload and yes, you'll have to endure that low HP roll at level up'.
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I would definitely like an "Ironman Mode" as an option if possible, as well as the "Heart of Fury-esque" mode suggested by @Winthal. It's true that an Ironman mode can be entirely self-imposed and so doesn't necessarily NEED to be included, but I would certainly like it.
I never thought of that. I just meant iron corrodes. Let's go with that.
But sleeping outside, camping shouldn't be restricted I think... Especially in BG1 where you spend so much of your time out of towns.
Besides, I really like the feeling of being "in over my head", the party is getting low on healing, potions are running out, your daily spells are at their limit, everybody's fatigued from haste spells, but you press on because you're so close to the end... this adds a bigger element of planning to the gamer for one, you have to prepare much longer for the big dungeons. And it just *feels* better to come out on the other side bruised, battered.. but very much alive... out in the sunshine once more. Just think about going through Durlags Tower in one go, without rest... what an accomplishment...
(if you really have to tho, you can leave the dungeon and go back to town, then come back and finish the rest)
Yes, yes very much so.
@Anton
''It would be great to add checkbox option "do not allow to sleep in dungeons" as somebody has suggested. Or even "allow to sleep in Inns\taverns only"
Yes, that too please.
@Winthal
''There are more reasons to remove resting in dungeons imo, for one, you can generate alot of extra XP by resting over and over and get ambushed on purpose, like in the infamous flesh golem cave.
Besides, I really like the feeling of being "in over my head", the party is getting low on healing, potions are running out, your daily spells are at their limit, everybody's fatigued from haste spells, but you press on because you're so close to the end... this adds a bigger element of planning to the gamer for one, you have to prepare much longer for the big dungeons. And it just *feels* better to come out on the other side bruised, battered.. but very much alive... out in the sunshine once more. Just think about going through Durlags Tower in one go, without rest... what an accomplishment...''
Exactly my feelings on this except you formulated it a lot better than I ever could.
@Senash
It makes me feel bad too. I tend to close the doors also hehehe. I'm torn up between camping under the stars or not camping under the stars though. You know... I think that my problem with it is resting a bunch of times to get all of you HP back. I don't find it very cool to rest more than once. Also trying to sleep and getting woken up constantly kind of breaks the momentum for me. It can take a lot of time and it just looks really bad because as I said on my difficulty level thread whatever it's called, I don't like how the enemies just appear in a pack somewhere instead of if they looked like they were patrolling or something. On the other hand camping under the stars is a perfectly normal thing to do and I don't see why you couldn't do it. I just find it weird to camp in dungeons and I feel guilty whenever I do it.
So anyway, I would have these options for players:
- Save only in inns.
- Save whenever but file gets deleted when PC dies... is that how Ironman goes?
- No rest in dungeons
- Rest only in inns
Another idea, perhaps for a mod, is to add more monsters and tougher monsters for the ambushes while sleeping in dungeons BUT remove any XP gains from them making farming them impossible, and basically only making them a major nuisance, and sometimes downright lethal.
It would be cool as an addition but not a true necessity if you ask me. I mean, you can do the no reloads yourself, true, you can lie, but what's the point in that, you're only lying to yourself.
When it comes to things like no sleeping in dungeons, keep in mind that the practical effect of these measures may be less to increase the challenge and more to increase the annoyance of having to back out, trek back to town, rest up, and then head back to the dungeon multiple times. For the most part, it doesn't make the game harder, but it does make it more tedious. It's much like how energy drain in the original PNP D&D was terrifying because there was basically no way to get lost levels back other than by gaining more experience the hard way, but in Baldur's Gate, it just meant you have to pack everything up, go to a temple, pay a pittance for a restoration spell, re-do your spell selection, rest, and then return to pick up where you left off. Tedious and annoying, but not really scary because there was nothing long-term at stake.
At the moment, I play a "reload only on CHARNAME death" game, and I also reload when I get below average HP rolls. I'm enjoying it immensely so far. I use potions, I use scrolls, I scout ahead, I use lots of different characters (and let some of them un-resurrected to save money). I have to think about conversation choices, and I let the chips fall where they may.
These are all things I have never done before, and so far it's been great fun. I would really love if an Ironman mode could be added post-ship, as I believe Ironman modes are quite popular and would add to the replayability and the immersion. Of course, this should come with a big fat sign "Not recommended for first-time players", but other than that I find it would be a great addition for us long-timer fans (and everyone who wants to become just as nerdy).