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SolobearSolobear Member Posts: 55
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When I talk to Kivan he says "I don't have time to waste on naive adventures."

Anyone know what the hell this is about? I've never encountered this problem. I want Kivan badly.

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  • TJ_HookerTJ_Hooker Member Posts: 2,438
    I think you need to pass a reaction check in order to recruit him. You can improve your reaction roll with high charisma or reputation.
  • SolobearSolobear Member Posts: 55
    My CHA is 5, and my rep is 14.
  • TJ_HookerTJ_Hooker Member Posts: 2,438
    Solobear said:

    My CHA is 5, and my rep is 14.

    Yep, pretty sure it's your charisma that's the problem. I think the game just checks the charisma of whichever character actually does the talking, so try talking to him with a party member with high CHA.
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    edited January 2013
    Solobear said:

    My CHA is 5, and my rep is 14.

    You realize that a CHA of 5 is analogous to Puss filled boils on your face and a screaming case of tourrettes, right?

    Basically you are Nober on steroids.
  • ajwzajwz Member Posts: 4,122
    Solobear said:

    My CHA is 5, and my rep is 14.

    Be careful later on, Coran might mistake you for a wyvern
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853
    mfw when people don't expect to run into any trouble upon making Charisma a dump stat

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  • TJ_HookerTJ_Hooker Member Posts: 2,438
    edited January 2013
    Quartz said:

    mfw when people don't expect to run into any trouble upon making Charisma a dump stat

    To be fair, there's a number of posts on this board about how useless charisma is, and how you can safely dump it. Of course, if you're familiar with the game, this is true, as you know to talk to people with a high CHA party member or something. But not if you're fairly new to BG.
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  • CobbwebCobbweb Member Posts: 26
    the_spyder said:

    Solobear said:

    My CHA is 5, and my rep is 14.

    You realize that a CHA of 5 is analogous to Puss filled boils on your face and a screaming case of tourrettes, right?

    Basically you are Nober on steroids.
    Steroids and acne
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853
    TJ_Hooker said:

    Quartz said:

    mfw when people don't expect to run into any trouble upon making Charisma a dump stat

    To be fair, there's a number of posts on this board about how useless charisma is, and how you can safely dump it. Of course, if you're familiar with the game, this is true, as you know to talk to people with a high CHA party member or something. But not if you're fairly new to BG.
    Yeah ... I think those posts are stupid, personally, haha!
  • DinsdalePiranhaDinsdalePiranha Member Posts: 419
    charisma under 8 = bad. very, very bad.

    don't do it. there is zero difference between 8-12, so you can use it as somewhat of a dump stat, just don't take it under 8. (or 7 and get charisma tome quickly)
  • moopymoopy Member Posts: 938
    or 5 (like he has)

    Annnnd

    @Solobear
    Get the charisma tome for +1 cha, and get Algorians Cloak (+2 cha) pick pocket or kill him, he is in the top floor of a inn in Beregost. So you will have +3 cha putting you at 8 cha and you should be much better off when talking with your main character. (Or just talk with someone else as previously mentioned)
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853
    edited January 2013
    DinsdalePiranha said:

    charisma under 8 = bad. very, very bad.

    don't do it. there is zero difference between 8-12, so you can use it as somewhat of a dump stat, just don't take it under 8. (or 7 and get charisma tome quickly)

    8 actually gives you a small penalty ... but not too bad. It starts getting awful at 7, so I agree with you entirely.
  • Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
    Solobear said:

    My CHA is 5, and my rep is 14.

    Can you not just talk to Kivan after making another NPC with better Charisma your party leader temporarily e..g Imoen, Ajantis, Dorn etc.?
  • DinsdalePiranhaDinsdalePiranha Member Posts: 419
    edited January 2013
    Quartz said:

    DinsdalePiranha said:

    charisma under 8 = bad. very, very bad.

    don't do it. there is zero difference between 8-12, so you can use it as somewhat of a dump stat, just don't take it under 8. (or 7 and get charisma tome quickly)

    8 actually gives you a small penalty ... but not too bad. It starts getting awful at 7, so I agree with you entirely.
    according to the manual, 8 carries zero reaction adjustment... or I have been lied to yet again by it? [shakes fist at manual]

    and yeah, it's just right. my 7 cha character got sent away even by Monty and Xzar when she tried talking to them, but nobody has any problems with 8 cha. (though neither do you get the best rewards, but that's what Coran's for)
    Post edited by DinsdalePiranha on
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    Cobbweb said:

    the_spyder said:

    Solobear said:

    My CHA is 5, and my rep is 14.

    You realize that a CHA of 5 is analogous to Puss filled boils on your face and a screaming case of tourrettes, right?

    Basically you are Nober on steroids.
    Steroids and acne
    and a very bad case of halitosis.
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853
    edited January 2013
    @DinsdalePiranha
    DinsdalePiranha said:

    according to the manual, 8 carries zero reaction adjustment... or I have been lied to yet again by it? [shakes fist at manual]

    A good rule is to literally never trust the manual about anything.

    http://playithardcore.com/pihwiki/index.php?title=Baldur's_Gate:_Races_and_Stats#Charisma
  • DinsdalePiranhaDinsdalePiranha Member Posts: 419
    Quartz said:

    @DinsdalePiranha

    DinsdalePiranha said:

    according to the manual, 8 carries zero reaction adjustment... or I have been lied to yet again by it? [shakes fist at manual]

    A good rule is to literally never trust the manual about anything.

    http://playithardcore.com/pihwiki/index.php?title=Baldur's_Gate:_Races_and_Stats#Charisma
    well, sheeeet.

    thanks for the correction!
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