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Racial Weapon Types

LiggLigg Member Posts: 187
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Hi, I've just seen this mentioned in passing, in an unrelated thread.
Never heard of it before. Do different races get bonuses for using different weapons?
If they do, is this a new thing for BG:EE? Or have it missed this over the years?

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  • moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,054
    Elves are meant to receive a bonus to long swords, short swords and bows. However I believe they are a bit bugged and are currently receiving bonuses on all swords.

    Halflings receive a bonus to thrown weapons.

    No other race related weapon bonuses are available.
  • Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
    decado said:

    Elves are meant to receive a bonus to long swords, short swords and bows. However I believe they are a bit bugged and are currently receiving bonuses on all swords.

    Yes, currently Elves receive a +1THAC0 with *all* swords (including two-handed, katanas, scimitars etc., but not daggers) and all bows, apart from crossbows. If sticking to PnP they should only get the bonus for long and short swords and bows
    decado said:


    Halflings receive a bonus to thrown weapons.

    In BGEE currently, they only get thre +1 THAC0 bonus for slings *and* darts (I've only just realised the latter), though I think (can anyone confirm?) that in PnP they get this with all thrown weapons (daggers, axes, darts, slings), though maybe not axes.



  • LiggLigg Member Posts: 187
    Oxford_Guy said:



    Yes, currently Elves receive a +1THAC0 with *all* swords (including two-handed, katanas, scimitars etc., but not daggers) and all bows, apart from crossbows. If sticking to PnP they should only get the bonus for long and short swords and bows

    Yet more bonuses for elves. Sigh. Sometimes elves really get on my tits.
    I knew of the bonus for bows from ages ago. Didn't know about the swords.

    Halfling sling bonus is also news.
    I thought the term 'racial weapon bonus' was more encompassing. Surely dwarves would get a bonus for axes and hammers.
  • Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
    Ligg said:

    Oxford_Guy said:



    Yes, currently Elves receive a +1THAC0 with *all* swords (including two-handed, katanas, scimitars etc., but not daggers) and all bows, apart from crossbows. If sticking to PnP they should only get the bonus for long and short swords and bows

    Yet more bonuses for elves. Sigh. Sometimes elves really get on my tits.
    Although they don't get the awesome Con-based save bonuses that the shorties get and the 90% resistance to charm/sleep isn't that useful (maybe charm), I can't think of any times an enemy mage has tried to cast Sleep on me...
    Ligg said:


    I knew of the bonus for bows from ages ago. Didn't know about the swords.

    Halfling sling bonus is also news.
    I thought the term 'racial weapon bonus' was more encompassing. Surely dwarves would get a bonus for axes and hammers.

    Do they in PnP?

    Gnomes and crossbows could also make sense

  • ErgErg Member Posts: 1,756
    decado said:

    Halflings receive a bonus to thrown weapons.

    Oxford_Guy said:


    In BGEE currently, they only get thre +1 THAC0 bonus for slings *and* darts (I've only just realised the latter), though I think (can anyone confirm?) that in PnP they get this with all thrown weapons (daggers, axes, darts, slings), though maybe not axes.

    From 2nd Ed. AD&D PH:
    Halflings have a natural talent with slings and thrown weapons. Rock pitching is a favorite sport of many a halfling child. All halflings gain a +1 bonus to their attack rolls when using thrown weapons and slings.
    Ligg said:

    Surely dwarves would get a bonus for axes and hammers.

    Oxford_Guy said:

    Do they in PnP?

    Gnomes and crossbows could also make sense

    P&P gnomes and dwarves have a +1 bonus to attack rolls against specific creatures (kobolds and goblins for gnomes; orcs, half-orcs, goblins, and hobgoblins for dwarves), but no racial weapon bonuses.
  • scriverscriver Member Posts: 2,072
    Gnomes have a bonus to Illusion magic instead.
  • Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
    scriver said:

    Gnomes have a bonus to Illusion magic instead.

    Not in BGEE AFAIK
  • Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
    I think there's a mod that implements this (may not work in BGEE yet, though), also halfling bonus/penalty vs. giants

  • RhymeRhyme Member Posts: 190
    Wait, dwarves don't get a bonus to axes? So I've been self-imposing that stereotype? I'm so ashamed...
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    Ligg said:

    Oxford_Guy said:



    Yes, currently Elves receive a +1THAC0 with *all* swords (including two-handed, katanas, scimitars etc., but not daggers) and all bows, apart from crossbows. If sticking to PnP they should only get the bonus for long and short swords and bows

    Yet more bonuses for elves. Sigh. Sometimes elves really get on my tits.
    I knew of the bonus for bows from ages ago. Didn't know about the swords.
    In the original rules (basic and Advanced), Elves could not be raised or resurrected. They were also limited in level for certain classes. So they were 'allowed' certain bonuses to make them even out. I think some of that is legacy from that time in the rules set.

  • Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
    Oxford_Guy said:

    decado said:

    Elves are meant to receive a bonus to long swords, short swords and bows. However I believe they are a bit bugged and are currently receiving bonuses on all swords.

    Yes, currently Elves receive a +1THAC0 with *all* swords (including two-handed, katanas, scimitars etc., but not daggers) and all bows, apart from crossbows. If sticking to PnP they should only get the bonus for long and short swords and bows
    decado said:


    Halflings receive a bonus to thrown weapons.

    In BGEE currently, they only get thre +1 THAC0 bonus for slings *and* darts (I've only just realised the latter), though I think (can anyone confirm?) that in PnP they get this with all thrown weapons (daggers, axes, darts, slings), though maybe not axes.



    Actually, it seems halflings may only get the +1 THAC0 bonus for slings and what is reported on the character sheet for darts is probably a bug, see: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/12372/thac0-window-showing-redundant-data-for-halflings-other-confusing-thac0-for-slings-bonuses
  • TJ_HookerTJ_Hooker Member Posts: 2,438
    Oxford_Guy said:

    scriver said:

    Gnomes have a bonus to Illusion magic instead.

    Not in BGEE AFAIK
    Well they sort of do, in that they are the only class that can be an illusionist/[other class] multiclass, and they receive a bonus to detect illusion (+10 I think).
  • Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
    TJ_Hooker said:

    Oxford_Guy said:

    scriver said:

    Gnomes have a bonus to Illusion magic instead.

    Not in BGEE AFAIK
    Well they sort of do, in that they are the only class that can be an illusionist/[other class] multiclass, and they receive a bonus to detect illusion (+10 I think).
    That's true, and yes they get 10% to Detect Illusion (only when have thief levels, though, of course): http://www.pocketplane.net/volothamp/chap13.htm
  • scriverscriver Member Posts: 2,072
    Oxford_Guy said:

    scriver said:

    Gnomes have a bonus to Illusion magic instead.

    Not in BGEE AFAIK
    Oh, right, I may be confusing it with 3rd Edition rules.
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