is dual classing bugged? (imoen for example)

Korlamaq

i dual classed her into a fighter and first she lost her thieving skills until warrior was one level higher as usual but now it seems like she isnt able to level her thief part anymore... fighter is now lvl 4 and her thief is still lvl 2
am i missing something here?
it also doesnt show x experience needed for level up on the thief part

Suiboon

That's how dual classing works. You stop advancing in the original class. That's why careful planning is required in order for it to be efficient. Also doesn't she need like 17 str to be able to dual class to a fighter?

Korlamaq

yea i know ive been experimenting a bit
well i played my main on my other playthrough as a fighter/thief and he always leveled thief and fighter simultaneously

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Korlamaq

oh i thought multi class is when you take 3 classes
so confusing -.-

Lindeblom

Coran and Montaron are multi classed Fighter/Thief npc's if you want them in the party..

Korlamaq

Lindeblom said:

Coran and Montaron are multi classed Fighter/Thief npc's if you want them in the party..

this playthrough is a good group sadly...
well time to reroll then... again

Lindeblom

Coran is good

Bus somewhat late in the game

Korlamaq

Lindeblom said:

Coran is good

Bus somewhat late in the game

i dont like his face :P

Lindeblom

Ooooookkkkkkaaaaaaaayyyyyy, then you better roll your own F/T =P

I am currently playing a half-orc F/T...his face is even uglier than Coran, but he is good....want to borrow him?

Korlamaq

i generally play half orcs

Eudaemonium

So you play half-orcs but Coran is still too ugly for you? XP

Mykra

Korlamaq said:

i dont like his face :P

Grab the PaintBG portrait mod. It makes all the portraits amazing!

http://www.shsforums.net/files/file/1032-paintbg-for-bgee/

Suiboon

Eudaemonium said:

So you play half-orcs but Coran is still too ugly for you? XP

Not everyone likes the pretty boys.

KidCarnival

Eudaemonium said:

So you play half-orcs but Coran is still too ugly for you? XP

Maybe he thinks half-orcs are handsome. From that view, elves and humans are certainly a bit on the ugly side.

Korlamaq

of course half orcs are ugly but in a badass kind of way
coran reminds me of a famous german actor that i hate haha

scriver

As for the difference between dual- and multiclass:

Humans dualclass. It means they leave one class for another, and only advance in the second class. This can only be done at second level or later. You can only dualclass a character once, and only from or to certain classes. You also need 15 in the main attribute of the first class and a 17 in the main stat of the class you are dualing to.

All other races multiclass. This means they advance in all classes simultaneously. Multiclassed characters also don't get to chose any kits or mage speciality (except gnomes, who can be illusionists) unless you use third hand programs to edit the files. Multiclassed characters have to be chosen at character generation.

That's pretty much the basics of it. It's a racial segregation, basically. Something humans have over the other races. I think DSimpson explains it pretty thouroughly in the last part of this guide.

Ignatius

How could you dual-class Imoen into a... fighter? she has base STR 9, you need base STR 17.

Wilbur

Ignatius said:

How could you dual-class Imoen into a... fighter? she has base STR 9, you need base STR 17.

He said he's been experimenting so probably Shadowkeeper'd it.

Lindeblom

Aaaaahaaa, so if I shadowkeep in 2 rings of Gaxx and 5rings of regeneration, that is.......experimenting....interesting ;P.

Ignatius

Wilbur said:

He said he's been experimenting so probably Shadowkeeper'd it.

ah alright...

ZanathKariashi

You left out the part where you also need the minimum stats for the class you're dualling into, in addition to the 17 for it's prime requite. That means a Fighter dualed to druid also needs 15 charisma, in addition to 17 wisdom.

Korlamaq

Lindeblom said:

Aaaaahaaa, so if I shadowkeep in 2 rings of Gaxx and 5rings of regeneration, that is.......experimenting....interesting ;P.

that would be 7 rings i can tell you without experimenting that you can't equip that many :P

Madhax

Lindeblom said:

Aaaaahaaa, so if I shadowkeep in 2 rings of Gaxx and 5rings of regeneration, that is.......experimenting....interesting ;P.

Apples and oranges. Changing classes around of the NPCs to mess around with is nowhere near importing a bunch of massively powerful items on the cheater-scale.

ZanathKariashi said:

You left out the part where you also need the minimum stats for the class you're dualling into, in addition to the 17 for it's prime requite. That means a Fighter dualed to druid also needs 15 charisma, in addition to 17 wisdom.

Bad example. Charisma is actually a prime stat for druids in addition to wisdom, meaning that a fighter->druid needs a minimum of 17 charisma. But you're otherwise correct.

Dragonfolk2000

When you dual class out of a class you permamently lose the ability to gain more levels in your first class. Eventually you'll gain access to the class's abilities again, but your new class must be at least one level higher than your old one.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that your thief abilities aren't working because you're wearing something heavier than studded leather armor.

the_spyder

Wilbur said:

He said he's been experimenting so probably Shadowkeeper'd it.

If he shadowkeeper'd it, couldn't he do the same and reverse instead of re-rolling? Or otherwise modify her character to his liking?

Korlamaq

the_spyder said:

Wilbur said:

He said he's been experimenting so probably Shadowkeeper'd it.

If he shadowkeeper'd it, couldn't he do the same and reverse instead of re-rolling? Or otherwise modify her character to his liking?

i actually have no idea how to use shadowkeeper i was doing it with some skill tomes

Madhax

Korlamaq said:

the_spyder said:

Wilbur said:

He said he's been experimenting so probably Shadowkeeper'd it.

If he shadowkeeper'd it, couldn't he do the same and reverse instead of re-rolling? Or otherwise modify her character to his liking?

i actually have no idea how to use shadowkeeper i was doing it with some skill tomes

Look into that, then. It'll save you a re-roll, and the tool comes in handy for all sorts of nifty stuff beyond strictly "cheating". The instructions are on these forums somewhere, unfortunately I forget where exactly or I'd link them. The installation into BGEE is a little tricky, but the tool itself is quite easy to use.

the_spyder

@Korlamaq. Yeah, that is strange. Did you console the tomes? That is the only way you can do what you stated you are doing.

In short, if you changed Imoen to Fighter with her having less than a 17 STR, there is a Bug in the program. If you raised her STR to 17 and then switched, then it is working as intended.

Korlamaq

the_spyder said:

@Korlamaq. Yeah, that is strange. Did you console the tomes? That is the only way you can do what you stated you are doing.

In short, if you changed Imoen to Fighter with her having less than a 17 STR, there is a Bug in the program. If you raised her STR to 17 and then switched, then it is working as intended.

nono i indeed cheated the tomes no bug or anything i was just confused