I wish I had known that, I honestly thought it followed in the footsteps of it's predecessor. Now I'll have to pick it up at the store when I get the chance, if it's still available. Not a priority given the 3rd ed system, though.
You know, I don't want a prequel. I know how the story ends. The only thing I would be satisfied with is moving on into the "what comes next for Baldur's Gate?"
That is not to say that I wouldn't buy a completely new game (in a series) that took place in that timeline and had well done side-quests to give you that information. I simply wouldn't knowingly buy a prequel to BG1+2, there is quite simply no point, IMO, and I'd feel insulted besides.
i did not like nwn2 OC that much, it seemed pretty bland to me. i thought the expansion (mask of the betrayer) was really good and interesting though.
OT- i really hope they leave the bhaalchild alone. some passing references, a few descendants of characters we knew, and a few variable taking into account actions from previous games is enough for me.
i find it tiresome, even a bit distasteful to torture poor bhaalspawn again with new 50+ level challenges after working and fighting so hard. sequels of this kind are usually not very good...
i hope for a new adventure and new set of characters bringing the FR to life again, just like original saga did.
@trinit Lol I didn't get around to MotB yet, I lost my save and I want to import a NWN2 save, I guess that's something to play after Skyrim! I agree about the Child of Bhaal story coming to a close, they kinda closed that book with ToB quite well.
What I gather is a sticking point for some is calling it Baldur's Gate if it bears no relation to the Bhaalspawn Saga and not having the game visit Baldur's Gate itself. Personally I'd be happy with a whole new tale in a whole new place. In fact maybe a whole different setting there are quite literally loads of them throughout the history of the Dungeons & Dragons franchise.
If we're going to keep to the 2nd Edition rule set how about Dark Sun, Dragonlance or for a really dark tone Ravenloft? If we shift into 3.5 there are some great settings although my two favourites are two third party ones: Iron Kingdoms and Ptolus: The City by the Spire. I can't recommend any 4th ed settings as I've not played any yet. Perhaps someone else here knows of some good ones?
I forgot to add the advantage to this is quite literally the chance to start from scratch. Bioware did realise Faerun exceptionally well across the Baldur's Gate Saga, Neverwinter Nights & Icewind Dale. Perhaps it's time for a change.
as for new rules and settings- if new game is produced they will use 4th edition, if 5th will not be outside already. Wotsc allow only the usage of the latest ruleset for licensing purposes. as for timeline, i'm not sure, they might be less rigid on this one.
i read the black hound wikipage- it seems like a good concept and i like the direction it took- new story.
I like your train of thought here. You're the offspring of your pc in bg 1/2/ToB. The woman you fell in love with and married can effect your 'bhaal abilities' Example, if it was viconia, you get the dark side of the healing abilities, plus maybe you could summon a drow ally. If jeheria, your powers will include shapeshifting, etc, and a focus on healing abilities. Maybe you'll have a pet bear? :P If aerie (one i always choose), you could choose to be a flying elf race (woot), and have a mixture of cleric/wizard abilities. Summon an averolis (however you spell it). Your special summons/pet bear would grow stonger as you level up. I like the thought of that. If you didn't take a wife, you could get the bhaal abilities that your pc got in the original trilogy. No pet/summon.
As far as story, i hope it's more that you're the grandchild of the pc from the original. That way, you can choose race (wouldn't make much sense if my half elf who married aerie was a human, but grandchild/great grandchild would allow you to choose. You could be an orc if your pc's child maried and orc, and that child married and orc. Suspension of disbelief, sure, but it works.) The other reason for child/grandchild is that i cared for my pc and their relationships, i wouldn't want a plot point for a new story to come in and suddenly, my lvl 50/50 (xp cap removed/numerous replays) fighter/wizzy char gets killed by a random orc. Use the BG2 engine, but you're the decent of the vault dwell....ummm, bhaal spawn.
I would just love to see BG3. Other possiblity is that you accend to the upper relm, restart as a lvl 1 (you're a lower creature there, will take time to adjust), and somehow you bring certain npc's with you (aerie :P). But i like the thought of remaining human, which is cannon imho, and being a decendant.
I wasn't particularly fond of NWN2 (3ed is somewhat overwhelming if you aren't used to it, a bit formulaic story (though the characters were cool), and the horrible combat), but I'd advise people to buy it just for the Mask of the Betrayer expansion alone - it is in my opinion the best RPG made in a long time. I really wish I could go back and play it for the first time again.
I think if ever a bg3 was made it should be a completely original story not related to the bhaalspawn saga at all. I know how it ends and i don't need more things tapped on to it to try and stretch it.
I think maybe a short expansion pack detailing the time in-between bg1 & bg 2 would be interesting though never gunna happen!
I think a story set during the spellplague would be quite interesting. Or maybe a game primarily set in Baldurs gate kind of like DA2 only not as crap.
Well there are a few ideas doing the rounds, Bhaalspawn vs Original story, Sword Coast/Amn vs new Faerun location, even Faerun vs New Setting. Thing is the infinity series has enourmous potential if these enhanced editions sell well.
Baldur's Gate 3 I would like to be involved with the time of troubles. Seems like a perfect setting for a prequel but I don't exactly know the logistics of it, From the ingame descriptions it always seemed like an event I wanted to experience.
Could you play a minor god who is either involved in Bhaals downfall or plots depending on choice? Or a character who becomes involved with the avatars. Even a character that is associated with alundo before his prophecies are know(way way back) and has to travel to candlekeep to preserve them? I haven't read the lore in a long time and i'm not strongly familiar with the forgotten realms but I would enjoy a sort of origins story for the whole saga.
If BG3 has anything to do with the same Bhaalspawn plot, I would prefer that it be a prequel in the same vein that George Lucas did for Star Wars. How did Bhaal set the stage for his plot to sew his seed all over Toril during the Time of Troubles? I'd enjoy experiencing that story told, and having a hand in it as a character. That is an intrigue-laden world, with many deities and factions serving them using mortals in a grand chess game, and it could take us to some fantastic locations all over the globe.
If it is a continuation set after ToB then I would want the PC to be a different character starting at level 1, whatever the tie-in.
But honestly, between the latter option and a brand new story that at least begins in the city of Baldur's Gate, I'd prefer a whole new tale. I think ToB is where the story should probably end (it's beginning is more compelling to me).
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I will add that a prequel does have a predetermined outcome: Bhaal cannot be stopped from sowing his mortal progeny. Or at least we know that he will succeed in siring the offspring that appears in the BG series. But I still think a lot of satisfying subplots, quests, and RP could flow from siding with various factions who have an interest in Bhaal's plot. We know that the Harpers, at least, knew of it and were keeping a watch. Why not then other organizations around Faerun? It would be fun to get a view into those power groups, as the gods scrambled to protect themselves as mortals during the ToT.
I would love another installment to the Baldur's Gate games, but I would prefer a shiny new protagonist and different story that doesn't have anything to do with Bhaalspawn. There is so much to see and explore, I'm sure they could come up with something new that would be just as engaging as the first two (technically 3, don't forget BG:Dark Alliance) games. In fact the only thing I would really like to see return from the first games would be the actual city of Baldur's Gate.
If BG3 were to continue the bhaalspawn saga, it would have had to revolve around Bhaal himself coming back from the dead, I see that as the only possible choice without maybe upsetting the fans.
A new story would be better really though, hey why not make a game based that lead up to the events of Cyric being imprisoned when he killed Mystra?
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The only thing I would be satisfied with is moving on into the "what comes next for Baldur's Gate?"
That is not to say that I wouldn't buy a completely new game (in a series) that took place in that timeline and had well done side-quests to give you that information. I simply wouldn't knowingly buy a prequel to BG1+2, there is quite simply no point, IMO, and I'd feel insulted besides.
OT- i really hope they leave the bhaalchild alone. some passing references, a few descendants of characters we knew, and a few variable taking into account actions from previous games is enough for me.
i find it tiresome, even a bit distasteful to torture poor bhaalspawn again with new 50+ level challenges after working and fighting so hard. sequels of this kind are usually not very good...
i hope for a new adventure and new set of characters bringing the FR to life again, just like original saga did.
What I gather is a sticking point for some is calling it Baldur's Gate if it bears no relation to the Bhaalspawn Saga and not having the game visit Baldur's Gate itself. Personally I'd be happy with a whole new tale in a whole new place. In fact maybe a whole different setting there are quite literally loads of them throughout the history of the Dungeons & Dragons franchise.
If we're going to keep to the 2nd Edition rule set how about Dark Sun, Dragonlance or for a really dark tone Ravenloft? If we shift into 3.5 there are some great settings although my two favourites are two third party ones: Iron Kingdoms and Ptolus: The City by the Spire. I can't recommend any 4th ed settings as I've not played any yet. Perhaps someone else here knows of some good ones?
as for new rules and settings- if new game is produced they will use 4th edition, if 5th will not be outside already. Wotsc allow only the usage of the latest ruleset for licensing purposes. as for timeline, i'm not sure, they might be less rigid on this one.
i read the black hound wikipage- it seems like a good concept and i like the direction it took- new story.
I like your train of thought here. You're the offspring of your pc in bg 1/2/ToB. The woman you fell in love with and married can effect your 'bhaal abilities' Example, if it was viconia, you get the dark side of the healing abilities, plus maybe you could summon a drow ally. If jeheria, your powers will include shapeshifting, etc, and a focus on healing abilities. Maybe you'll have a pet bear? :P If aerie (one i always choose), you could choose to be a flying elf race (woot), and have a mixture of cleric/wizard abilities. Summon an averolis (however you spell it). Your special summons/pet bear would grow stonger as you level up. I like the thought of that. If you didn't take a wife, you could get the bhaal abilities that your pc got in the original trilogy. No pet/summon.
As far as story, i hope it's more that you're the grandchild of the pc from the original. That way, you can choose race (wouldn't make much sense if my half elf who married aerie was a human, but grandchild/great grandchild would allow you to choose. You could be an orc if your pc's child maried and orc, and that child married and orc. Suspension of disbelief, sure, but it works.) The other reason for child/grandchild is that i cared for my pc and their relationships, i wouldn't want a plot point for a new story to come in and suddenly, my lvl 50/50 (xp cap removed/numerous replays) fighter/wizzy char gets killed by a random orc. Use the BG2 engine, but you're the decent of the vault dwell....ummm, bhaal spawn.
I would just love to see BG3. Other possiblity is that you accend to the upper relm, restart as a lvl 1 (you're a lower creature there, will take time to adjust), and somehow you bring certain npc's with you (aerie :P). But i like the thought of remaining human, which is cannon imho, and being a decendant.
I think maybe a short expansion pack detailing the time in-between bg1 & bg 2 would be interesting though never gunna happen!
I think a story set during the spellplague would be quite interesting. Or maybe a game primarily set in Baldurs gate kind of like DA2 only not as crap.
I think this thread is a little lost?
Let me read it I guess.
I meant, it's not in General, Feature Requests, it's just in Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition, not any subforum.
Ah ok, thanks for the heads-up
Could you play a minor god who is either involved in Bhaals downfall or plots depending on choice? Or a character who becomes involved with the avatars. Even a character that is associated with alundo before his prophecies are know(way way back) and has to travel to candlekeep to preserve them? I haven't read the lore in a long time and i'm not strongly familiar with the forgotten realms but I would enjoy a sort of origins story for the whole saga.
If it is a continuation set after ToB then I would want the PC to be a different character starting at level 1, whatever the tie-in.
But honestly, between the latter option and a brand new story that at least begins in the city of Baldur's Gate, I'd prefer a whole new tale. I think ToB is where the story should probably end (it's beginning is more compelling to me).
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I will add that a prequel does have a predetermined outcome: Bhaal cannot be stopped from sowing his mortal progeny. Or at least we know that he will succeed in siring the offspring that appears in the BG series. But I still think a lot of satisfying subplots, quests, and RP could flow from siding with various factions who have an interest in Bhaal's plot. We know that the Harpers, at least, knew of it and were keeping a watch. Why not then other organizations around Faerun? It would be fun to get a view into those power groups, as the gods scrambled to protect themselves as mortals during the ToT.
A new story would be better really though, hey why not make a game based that lead up to the events of Cyric being imprisoned when he killed Mystra?
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