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Best average backstabs in BGEE?

apeterssonapetersson Member Posts: 33
What class/weapon combination would lead to the best backstabs on average at the XP cap, given an average enemy with -3 AC.
The thing to optimize would be average total damage done with a single backstab attack (including poisons)

I would think the Staff of Striking could be an obvious choice. but also the poisoned Dagger could be worthwile with single-weapon style.

Possibilities:
Human Berserker/Thief dual ?
Half-orc Assassin ?
Kensai/thief dual ?
Half-orc or Elven Fighter/Thief multi ?
cleric Selfbuffed/Thief?
anything else i forgot?

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  • AranthysAranthys Member Posts: 722
    edited February 2013
    Fighter dualled to thief deals the most damage.
    Either Kensai, or Berserker.
    There's two ways to do it :
    Either dual at fighter level 6, or at fighter level 3.
    Dual@ level 6 :
    Pros : Better THACO
    Con : You play most of the game as a shitty thief

    Dual@ level 6 :
    Pro : Early access to your fighter bonuses
    Con Slightly lower thac0

    Note that since Strength bonus isn't multiplied on a backstab, playing a half orc isn't as good as playing a dualed fighter / thief.

    The best weapon for backstabs is the staff of striking
    The second best weapon for backstabs is the +3 staff
    The third best weapon for backstabs is the +3 shortsword
    The fourth best weapon is the +2 sword.


    I did myself play as a Berserker that dualled to thief at level 3, and I had a blast.
    The berserking ability is a godsend, and is very, VERY useful.

    Note that I played the game as a solo character, not in a party.
    I first developped Hide / Move Silently to about ~70+, then started putting points in pick locks and disarm trap.

    Final values at Berserker 3 / Thief 9 was about 90% MS / 90 % Hide / 85% Pick locks / 85% disarm traps, and I was only using the +3 studded leather (With the boots of speed).
  • AranthysAranthys Member Posts: 722
    Oh, and I totally forgot, but with the +3 staff, the average backstabs were :
    1d6+3 (Staff) + 2 (Guantlets) + 5 (5* staves) + 1 (2* 2H)
    = 12-19 x4 + Strength bonus.
    That's an average of about 65 damage with a strength of 19.

    If you use the staff of striking, you add +6x4 damage to the average, so about 90 damage per hit.
  • KingGhidorahKingGhidorah Member Posts: 201
    Currently playing a half-orc assassin.
    Get his strength up to 20, get the dagger of venom and together with the poison ability watch your unsuspecting targets die.
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