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Please give us more scroll cases or dramatically increase the capacity of the current one

ElderElder Member Posts: 14
It's just not fun managing scrolls.

Yeah, I know, use or sell or store in a barrel, but it's only a game and sometimes I just want to press on and not worry about managing paper scrolls ;-)

In BG2, we were given lots of scroll cases. Why not now, when we have almost as many to deal with (if not more). I tried using console commands to add cases, but they are mirrors of each other and always have the same contents. So if you add a scroll to one, it shows up in the other, etc.

Thanks for listening!

[To anyone who is searching and finds this post at a later date : A patch of the game did dramatically increase the capacity of the scroll case, but if you obtained the case before updating your game, the original low capacity of 20 will not change. There are workarounds posted in this thread.]
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  • The_New_RomanceThe_New_Romance Member Posts: 839
    I think in BG2 there's about three of them, that is, if you manage to find them all. I never understood why they were such rare items, I figure they are quite mundane and should be readily available in any town of a certain size. You don't really get any big mechanical advantages by having more of them, it's just less of a hassle organizing your stuff.

    So, I'd say, one or two more containers of each type (gems and potions as well) wouldn't hurt.
  • GallowglassGallowglass Member Posts: 3,356
    No, @The_New_Romance, there are more than three in BG2. I can't remember precisely, but plenty.

    The original capacity of the scroll case in BGee was only 20, which I agree was restrictive when there's only one of them, but a patch or two ago it was expanded to ... I dunno, I haven't hit the limit, but lots, maybe 100. More than adequate, anyway.

    However, if you already had the scroll case in inventory before applying the patch, then it couldn't update the capacity of the existing item. In your next playthrough, however, the new limit will apply, which ought to suffice for any reasonable purpose.
  • JTMJTM Member Posts: 70
    @Elder, if you still find that the new capacity is not enough as @Gallowglass mentions, then there's a mod which makes inventory issues practically irrelevant:

    "BG2 Tweak Pack": http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?s=e51f1b81651de0414727dcc3c9b38576&app=downloads&showfile=695


    From the readme portion concerning the 'Add Bags of Holding' component:
    "...This component will add a gem bag to the Friendly Arm Inn store, a scroll case at the High Hedge, an ammo belt to Thunderhammer Smithy, a potion case to the Nashkel General Store, and a bag of holding at the Sorcerous Sundries in Baldur's Gate."

    From the readme portion concerning the 'Bottomless Bags of Holding' component:
    "This component will alter every bag of holding to have unlimited capacity. Scroll cases, ammo belts, gem bags and the regular bags of holding will be changed. This component will not affect what you can place in the bags, just the capacity. This component will affect all items in the game, including items introduced by mods. Please note that every time a script checks for an item, it'll have to parse everything you're carrying, so keep this in mind if you begin to experience slowdowns when carrying a lot of items..."

    These are just a few of the many tweaks and ease of use that this mod provides...
  • bbearbbear Member Posts: 1,180
    I think I collected them all...I got 6 from Bg2 to end of ToB. I have a case devote to blue scrolls, one for red-damage, one for red-debuff, one for white, one for green and the last one for misc/others.

    There is a mod for bottomless storage, but it doesnt stack the scrolls and you will have a hard time finding where that one scroll you put in a long time ago.
  • GallowglassGallowglass Member Posts: 3,356
    That sounds about how I recall it, @bbear. I remember organising them similarly, too!
  • shawnppickettshawnppickett Member Posts: 25
    I usually went, quest scrolls (letters, books, and such that weren't combat castable and were mostly plot devices), mage scrolls, and clerics scrolls. I'd have an empty case that I'd shift mage scrolls into when I got a new mage and was sorting through the spells I'd want them to learn.
  • Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
    Do you really need to store over 100 scrolls?
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  • Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
    Bhaaldog said:

    Do you really need to store over 100 scrolls?

    If you want to try a solo run with a bard or thief in ToB (+Ascension) scrolls I imagine the more scrolls you are carrying the better.

    I cannot see how it would hurt to make more scroll cases available for purchase from vendors specialising in magical items.
    True, but this is BGEE we're talking about. I wouldn't mind if there were more scroll cases available, though, it would hardly unbalance the game. Would be nice if they could be different colours too, to help with organisation.
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  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    Yes, that would help to sort spells better, especially if you collect scrolls for casters you'll pick up (or dual) later.

    I'd love something to store ammo, too. Half my inventories are cluttered with "4 arrows of dispelling", "2 arrows of detonation" and other things that are for specific situations and come in low quantities. I often collect good arrows or darts until I have enough to not refill every 2 fights. It would help a lot to have at least a small container for that.
  • AranthysAranthys Member Posts: 722

    Bhaaldog said:

    Do you really need to store over 100 scrolls?

    If you want to try a solo run with a bard or thief in ToB (+Ascension) scrolls I imagine the more scrolls you are carrying the better.

    I cannot see how it would hurt to make more scroll cases available for purchase from vendors specialising in magical items.
    True, but this is BGEE we're talking about. I wouldn't mind if there were more scroll cases available, though, it would hardly unbalance the game. Would be nice if they could be different colours too, to help with organisation.
    Not only an additional case, but also an additional gem bag for those that don't plan on recruiting Neera.
    1 potion case
    2 scroll case
    2 gem bag

    would actually be perfect.

    It's also sad that a returning +1 throwing dagger and/or a returning +1 dart weren't added to the game.
    That, and bags of unlimited regular arrows / bolt / bullet.

    I'd also have loved to have some the "X charges" items be changed to "usable X times a day" (IE .: Ring of invisibility changed to be "cast invisibility x/day, and so on) rather than the current X charges then sell/buy it back to recharge.

    Back in BG1, that wasn't possible, but there's a lot of these items in BG2, and they are always very useful.

    Actually, I was a bit sad to see so few of the great additions that were made to BG2 added to BG1.
    Thankfully, all these can be modded in along with the BG1 NPC project.
  • BigfishBigfish Member Posts: 367
    If you need more than 100 scrolls, you need to get over your hording syndrome and sell all those color sprays and infravision scrolls or actually, you know, use them.

    I'd rather see the option to drop a scroll case on to a quick item slot and be able to access all the scrolls within. My wizards are usually saddled with enough stuff in their quick action bar with all their wands and potions, I don't want to spend all my time dragging new scrolls on to it just to use them, especially since so many offer only minor advantages or a low enough damage I'd be better off just letting the next round of attacks happen than go hunting through my inventory for it.
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    For me, the problem isn't the scroll cases per say. Although i do personally think that they are essential and agree there should be more available, the problem is with the inventory solution in entirety. One character can carry 10 suits of armor and, provided they aren't encumbered, they are fine. But the same character might get blocked up holding 10 gems. It isn't weigh or encumbrance or even space, it is X number of slots. I'd call that a problem (and one of the very few in the game).
  • ElderElder Member Posts: 14
    Unfortunately, my cases are limited to 20 (both games I am playing were started before the last patch).
    100 sounds more reasonable (though why not make it higher? - hurts no one). Too bad the increase didn't work retroactively.

    Thanks for the responses, everyone. @JTM, I may try what you suggest.
  • ElderElder Member Posts: 14
    re: BG2, I found 6 cases as well, and used them to help organize.
  • ErgErg Member Posts: 1,756
    Elder said:

    Unfortunately, my cases are limited to 20 (both games I am playing were started before the last patch).
    100 sounds more reasonable (though why not make it higher? - hurts no one). Too bad the increase didn't work retroactively.

    Thanks for the responses, everyone. @JTM, I may try what you suggest.

    You can also increase the case storage limit using NI. More information here.
  • ElderElder Member Posts: 14
    @Erg, your pointer led me to an even easier solution! I had not realized that the CLUA item numbers for the other bags were "bag03x" where x is a letter. (I had tried such things as bag31 without success.)

    I was able to use CLUA console command to simply add bag03g, which I confirmed has capacity over 20. Problem solved :)

    For all others who need a solution, simply follow the instructions elsewhere on the forums about how to add items via console commands. add "bag03g" (and probably other letters from b to i).

    Thanks so much!
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    edited February 2013
    Um.... who wants to scroll down 100 scrolls in one case anyway?
  • ElderElder Member Posts: 14
    @the_spyder, luckily the ones added by console do honor stacking (so you see a stack of 5 instead of 5 separate scrolls), and if you decide to add more cases you can organize so that each case has different types of scrolls - however you want to do it. And at least having them in a case beats juggling them in inventory and barrels ;)
  • WigglesWiggles Member Posts: 571
    Ahhhh. The days before cases & pouches... Inventory management at it's finest...

    Back in topic, I'd rather have the one we got, than none at all. >.> <.<
  • ElderElder Member Posts: 14
    @Wiggles, Haha yes indeed I remember those days! I recall loading up with multiple stacks of 20 plain arrows and bullets per slot and a max of 5 healing potions per stack. (And being somewhat annoyed, but BG1 was so much better than anything else I had seen, that it was quickly forgiven.) Luckily BG2 showed us a better life!

    On topic though, BGEE significantly increases the number of different types of scrolls/arrows/bullets/etc from the original BG1, so there is even greater need for ease-of-use improvements.
  • DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
    why do you need so many scrolls?

    I mean, don't you sell most of the level 1 scrolls found around the game?
    In fact , if you cast spells from them, you wouldn't store so many .

    You're probably addicted to collecting scrolls...
  • TheCoffeeGodTheCoffeeGod Member Posts: 618
    edited February 2013
    Wiggles said:

    Ahhhh. The days before cases & pouches... Inventory management at it's finest...

    -lol-
    INDEED!
    Thinking back to those days, I was saddened when I first installed the TotSC expansion to BG1.
    They fixed one of my favorite exploits, which allowed you to put things like Bandit Scalps and Gems in the Quick Slots, which helped with inventory management, especially in places that dropped a lot of gems.
    Bigfish said:

    If you need more than 100 scrolls, you need to get over your hording syndrome and sell all those color sprays and infravision scrolls or actually, you know, use them.

    My thoughts the topic though pretty much mirror this.
    With 100 slots availible, there really is no need for more than one scroll case, and if you need more than that... STOP HORDING!


  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    DJKajuru said:

    why do you need so many scrolls?

    I mean, don't you sell most of the level 1 scrolls found around the game?
    In fact , if you cast spells from them, you wouldn't store so many .

    You're probably addicted to collecting scrolls...

    It's been said. And yes, people are hoarders. But..... If you CAN, why shouldn't you?

  • JTMJTM Member Posts: 70

    ... STOP HORDING!

    Answered>>>


    It's been said. And yes, people are hoarders. But..... If you CAN, why shouldn't you?

    Lol, I'm a hopeless hoarder... I must collect every scroll, potion, ring and any other silly, useless and seemingly irrelevant item in the game. If I can categorize my superfluous scroll collection with colored cases, then all the better!

    http://www.shsforums.net/files/file/789-unique-containers-v3/

    Yes, you are right to say I have a hoarding problem...but aren't dragons hoarders? My character must be part dragon and just wants to roll around in stacks of color sprays or doze on a healthy bed of infravision scrolls (piles of gold coins are preferable but not necessary).

    The Golden Pantaloons was a victory for hoarders everywhere and gave hoarders further justification for hoarding to excess... ;)



  • mjsmjs Member Posts: 742
    pfft i don't pick up nuffin (haha my autocorrect kept trying to change this to muffin) cept gold, unique & quest items and high level scrolls after i hit level 5 anyway

    who can actually be bothered, taking their mouse, hovering over something, clicking, opening the box/chest/corpse clicking the items, then opening the inventory if your carrying too much, moving stuff around, trying to balance weights...

    seriously, you people who are scrimping around, hoarding stuff and not buying arrows and potions from vendors...you're damaging the economy!
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