Best GOOD aligned characters
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I usually play EVIL characters, not because I have a slightly defective moral compass (I hate killing Dyna for example), but because I have grown used to having certain characters accompany me and consequently the odd innocent must be sacrificed to appease them. 
I made an Archer who "fell" (unbeknownst to me) and it was too late, by the time I discovered this, for me to retrieve a save prior to the incident.
I would like to play an Archer still, so naturally I am going to have to use good(-ish) characters or people that wont whinge and leave if my rep gets too high.
My party will consist of PC (Archer) Imoen (Thief no Dual classing) and possibly Neera, now, usually I have the following and I would like to know which of them will need to be replaced if I am "GOOD" aligned and who should replace them.
Shar-Teel (If she needs replacing, I would ideally like some heavy armoured person that can dual wield if possible)
Dorn...If he needs replacing....dunno I'm guessing Ajantis, but open to suggestions.
Edwin
Thanks for any help
I made an Archer who "fell" (unbeknownst to me) and it was too late, by the time I discovered this, for me to retrieve a save prior to the incident.
I would like to play an Archer still, so naturally I am going to have to use good(-ish) characters or people that wont whinge and leave if my rep gets too high.
My party will consist of PC (Archer) Imoen (Thief no Dual classing) and possibly Neera, now, usually I have the following and I would like to know which of them will need to be replaced if I am "GOOD" aligned and who should replace them.
Shar-Teel (If she needs replacing, I would ideally like some heavy armoured person that can dual wield if possible)
Dorn...If he needs replacing....dunno I'm guessing Ajantis, but open to suggestions.
Edwin
Thanks for any help
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Dunno about Minsc, I played him years ago and sure the whole Boo thing was cool, I dont know how he would stack up vs Dorn or Shar-Teel but he has baggage, I dont know if Dyna is as good as Edwin.
Thanks for the reply Bhaaldog
For a start, You can also get a Bastard Sword +1 for free in Beregost
He has more damage potential than Khalid. Due to his high Charisma, you also have a natural leader for NPC interaction and shops, and do not need to shuffle arond party positions manually. I even gave him the Charisma tome and Algernon's cloak.
Of course, technically Imoen is the best NPC, with her 87 stat points. Also her ability to dual-class into the best mage NPC, her relaxed view on reputation.
If you are looking for the best good damage dealer, Coran as a longbow archer propably is it. Even if you are an Archer, there are enough item choices to equip both charname and Coran perfectly.
What Bastard Sword is free in Beregost, I havent had anybody use them, so I wasnt particularly keeping an eye on what I found and sold off.
Thanks for the reply
Chaotic Good can definitely behave unlawfully, although they also tend toward being helpful versus maliciously harming others. So there's no reason a CG character can't assemble some badass evil characters in their quest. From a RP standpoint (and this has nothing to do with the game engine), if it were a PnP game such a character (who tends to be helpful towards others) as party leader should have rather high Cha in order to get a mostly evil group to fall in behind him or her, though. By leader I don't mean the tactical formation, but rather when speaking with any NPC. However, you could also place a high Cha Good or Neutral aligned character in the lead spot (Imoen has high Cha, for example). But that said, it's your SP game to play however you enjoy most. So do whatever makes it most fun for you. (Come to think of it, you could tap a high Cha evil character to do the talking with NPCs as well.)
If you play mixed alignment just make sure that your Reputation doesn't get above 17. The evil characters will leave if the party's rep reaches 18. There are a number of ways to decrease rep, including have a thief or bard get caught pickpocketing, or a thief getting caught burglarizing a home. I sometimes have evil characters behave as I imagine would be entirely in-character for them and kill commoners who mouth off to them. (Use sparingly as the rep decrease is pretty massive.) You can also do a rep-increasing quest but simply not speak with the quest-giver at the end, forgoing the additional XP reward and rep increase. (That requires some metagame knowledge of which quests award a rep point.)
As for adding Good or Neutral aligned NPCs to the above party you might also want to consider which ones will interact, and how. I won't spoil you but not all the NPCs get along. That's also part of the fun--at least for my taste--of playing a mixed alignment party. Folks here can post more about who doesn't get along with whom if you request.
I think your party would benefit from another front line character. And you'll need a healer.
So any of these could be used:
Meleer
Ajantis (LG)
Kagain (LE)
Khalid (NG) (paired with Jaheira but can be separated)
Kivan (he's great with the halberd)
Minsc (NG) (paired with Dynaheir but can be separated)
Healer/Meleer
Branwen (TN)
Jaheira (TN) (paired with Khalid but can be separated)
Viconia (NE) (tanks really well in ankheg armor)
Yeslick (LG)
Thanks for taking the time to cover so many bases Lemernis
I'm kinda looking for a crew that wont complain about my alignment, so I dont have to worry about my rep skyrocketing, as this will be a "good" playthrough. I guess I could keep my usual party and "manage" my rep to appease them, but I dont want to do that.
I have read that Dyna isn't all that great, But, I'll check her out more carefully, Theres not alot of choice I can see mage-wise that I like, Xan is hard to get to, same with Yeslick, for low level aquisition, before they start self assigning points.
I'm leaning towards Kivan, Branwen and Ajantis at this stage, I've never used any of them before. I could go with the old reliables like Jahira and Minsc, but I dont want their partners as I will have to kill them, which will go against my alignment.
Its weird, the game sort of penalises you for being "bad", but (to me) it seems that the bad guys are the best characters
Thanks for the replies
Thanks for any help
CN - CHARNAME half-elf Blade
NE - Dorn, Half-Orc Blackguard
NE - Vicona, elf Cleric
NG - Imoen, human thief
CN - Neera, half-elf Wild Mage
CG - Kivan, elf Ranger - will replace with CG Coran, elf fighter/thief at Cloakwood
Works for me!
As regards the mixed party, I want to have a "good" party totally, so I dont have to play, just to appease the party members.
Thanks for the reply Oxford_Guy
Thanks for the heads up, that does extend my choices considerably
Although in BG2 (only) it's possible for Viconia to become:
Chaotic Neutral, if you romance her and make certain choices
He is wearing Ankheg, Dex Gloves and a Bastard Sword +1 and probably a ring of princes and some plussed shield, he's about lv4 with 44HP, i probably got him at Lv1 and he has an auto prof in 2 Hand which seems weird for a Paladin, I would have thought they would sword n board or maybe I'm playing him wrong, its just that I find his lack of Hitpoints...disturbing
Try frontlining with 27 HP Kivan with halberd (or even better - Varscona +2 without shield). It very quickly cured me from "frontliner must have 50+ HP at level 5 BECAUSE KAGAIN DOES" because it works fine. Surprised me more than anything; for psychological reasons, I could never make Kivan anything but an archer before. Then I changed his portrait to one without a bow, and he became a killing machine. Not a real tank, but for that, I got Yeslick. If you are as attached to the idea of "dwarf must tank" as I am due to being used to Kagain, try that - Kivan in Dorn's role, Yeslick in Kagain's. Both have notably less HP and you won't notice it anymore after a while.
Yeslick (to me) is just to difficult to get to early enough, maybe when I become more experienced, I will find it less difficult, but I dont think I could get him before lv 3.
Thanks for the advice though,I will definately consider Kivan more seriously in future
Yeslick is in the worst of all places. Until now, I never had him in my party before. You can't get him before Cloakwood, which is likely well after level 3. At that point, you usually already invested in your party and gave your cleric the weapons and gear and it feels like starting all over to ditch what you have and got used to and take a new NPC.
Yes, his stats didnt make me go wow!, on saying that, neither did his skills (charm animals...why bother?) and I always play Imoen as a Thief. Why would you need "Friends"?
I dont get the importance of CHA unless its to maintain mixed alignment cohesion, prices aren't an issue as theres enough gold if you farm Ankhegs...(speaking of which, Dorn can carry 4 on his own, all my current party can manage as a group is maybe 4).
I feel kinda gipped with Ajantis, I may go and look for Kivan, see how he has developed, I remember picking up a Halbred+1 or something similar, maybe in Cloakwood, I forget, but I can look it up. i'm heading to Cloakwood currently, maybe if Yeslick isnt too screwed up, I can use him.
Thanks for the help
EDIT : Kivan Profs
Halberd ++
Longbow ++
Two Weapon Style. ++
But, He's still Lv 2 (16 Hitpoints), my party is Lv 3-4
None even compliment each other or am i missing something obvious?
Charisma isn't THAT important for shopping, especially for a good party, but it also keeps NPC morale up to have a high charisma leader.
Ankheg farming without Dorn can be... ugh, yeah, I know what you mean.
The halberd +1 you probably found is... umm. Spoiler free. Near the Gnoll Stronghold. There is a second good halberd in the same area.
Yeslick is a lawful good dwarf fighter/cleric multi; with the weapon profs you'd expect from a dwarf. He had some silly spells memorized when I met him, but being a cleric, that's easily fixed. If you already had Kivan, he's likely on a much lower level than the rest of your party now. Therefore, Yeslick might be the better idea at this point.
I could maybe switch Yeslick for Jahira and give him the dex gloves.
I'm really torn over Kivan and Ajantis though, i think a cup of tea and a sticky bun is in order, while I mull it over
The gnoll deserter Ingot, roams the corner above the small section where you can travel to the Stronghold map, has the Chesley Crusher +2. It is not blued/unidentified when you find it, but it looks different than normal or +1 halberds, so you'll still recognize it.
Do you still have Ajantis in the group? And how long ago did you ditch Kivan? In doubt, you could trade Ajantis for Yeslick (if Kivan is too far behind in levels).
I havent played that save yet today (made a Kensai (mage)for BG2, while I was a ponderin')
Kivan is Lv 2, Ajantis is Lv 4. I dont know what to do, if I trade Yeslick for Ajantis, then I have 2 fighter/clerics (Yeslick and Jahira), I wish kivan didnt have such diverse proffs or Ajantis didnt have proff in dualwield, they just seem kinda gimped, I may just return to runing evil parties.
thanks for all the help KidCarnival