It may be a pipe dream but
Baxyratty
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Do you get to meet you patron denon/devil if you play a blackgaurd?
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It's not like they just decide to start worshipping lloth one day.
That is one of the things that has always bothered me about Blackguards. As a 1st level character, most Blackguard wanabes are nobodies. Why would any major demon or god give one iota of thought to someone as simple and low level. It isn't like a cleric or Paladin where the simple act of worship and devotion is enough, a Blackguard actually signs a contract. That means the being is physically manifest in some degree. It would be like an NFL talent scout signing a 10 year old from some random pick-up game of touch football.
To me, that's what a level 1 blackguard looks like.
Unless you RP that you worship Cyric, no, you will not encounter your patron diety. If you DO worship Cyric, however, you get a nice face-to-face in TOB with him.
My PC Paladins have always worshiped Kelemvor ever since I first read the Avatar Trilogy. Playing through NWN2OC as my regular ol' Paladin was cool and all, but when I got to meet Kelemvor in NWN2MOTB it blew my freaking mind! Especially because I had (unknowingly) role-played it perfectly so that I COULD justify turning against my God and fighting to destroy the Wall.
That experience was only beaten when I played an evil Warlock and got the Ultimate Evil ending. Oh god, no other game can possibly be as epicly evil.
Get out. We don't like your type in here.
To me, I really liked what they did in the Dragonlance universe with Wizards. You could cast low level spells, but you weren't actually considered a Wizard proper until you took the test at 5th level. Before that you were merely an apprentice. That is actually the way I play my wizards on Persistent worlds in NWN2. Anyone asks, i am 'an apprentice' until 5th level. THEN I graduate to wizard.
I think Blackguards could work that way as well. Levels 1-5, you are just a fighter (or whatever is most appropriate) and pretty much had to prove yourself worthy of a sit down with 'The boss'. it wasn't until that point that the contract was signed. Before that, maybe you got some abilities in the same way a Paladin does, but you weren't 'In' until you were at least formidable enough to have made a name for yourself. Or something like that.
That and I actually genuinely really like it.
And if @Eudaemonium likes DA2, more power to him. I thought it was a hugely disappointing mess. But that is merely my opinion. He is entitled to his just as I am entitled to mine. It's all good.
Oh god, I'm dead.
But I can see powerful demon lords communicating telepathically in order to gain an agent in the prime material plane. Or alternatively perhaps the ritual summons some kind of powerful demon like a balor who is in the service of the demon lord to oversee the contract?
Obviously it's hardly likely that the demon lord is going to go through the trouble of manifesting personally. I'd be interested to hear some professional D&D writers' opinions on this.
a blackguard makes an actual deal with a demon,devil or evil deity in order to gain divine power and the deal has 2 sides,you must do something to please the patron,that's why he granted you the power for,you literally become his champion. If the patron is chaotic evil he may demand mere bloodlust or destruction of his enemies,if the patron is lawful evil he may want you to take part in his schemes etc
Edit: Although it could turn into an interesting discussion while I post something. >_>
Anyway, I hope Dorn's patron will play a role in his BG2 story.