Logical portrait swaps and other cosmetic changes
Archnecromancer
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I found this comment in an old discussion: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/16441/ee-portraits
However these "replacements" are not very logical. Some mages get fighters in armor replacements or thieves get them, or something similar.
Also NPCs that are playable in BG2 and have different portraits in BG2 do not have their BG2 portraits as replacements, but generic ones even though BG2 portraits are included in BGEE game resources (you can access them with EE gatekeeper or NearInfinity).
So I made a new replacement list that gives NPCs playable in BG2 their BG2 portraits as replacements and every other NPC gets a different replacement (mostly BG2 character or one of new MANLEY portraits).
I gave new EE NPCs original BG1/BG2 portraits as replacements so that people who don't like new portrait style could change their portraits to original ones by changing their CHARNAME's portrait to EE NPC portrait (so that the NPC swaps his/her portrait with replacement) and then change back your CHARNAME portrait to the one you use. So you could change your CHARNAME portrait to Dorn's to get Dorn to change his portrait to BG2 half-orc one, and then have Dorn with original BG style portrait.
Also since BG1 NPCs playable in BG2 would have their BG2 portraits as replacement you could use the same method to give Viconia BG2 portrait by changing your CHARNAME's portrait to Viconia's to get her to change her portrait and then change it back and play with VIconia that has BG2 portrait.
Of course you can only choose portraits of your CHARNAME's sex for your CHARNAME so it would not work that way for NPCs of opposite sex (because you can't choose their portrait for your CHARNAME), but maybe belt of opposite alignment would work (I haven't tried that, it just came to me as I was writing this)...
I also gave replacements portraits replacement portrait that it replaces so that if you accidently choose some NPC portrait for your CHARNAME (and get NPC to swap his), you could change NPCs portrait back to original by choosing replacement NPC portrait for your CHARNAME.
You can edit your CHARNAME portraits by going to your character sheet->CUSTOMIZE->APPEARANCE.
Now here's a list:
And while I'm talking about appearance customization, how about checking those NPC color changes that you've made in the last patch? Default NPC colours should match their portraits. However you really screwed up Imoen's colors and they do not match her portrait. And you gave Xan some blue mnor clothing colors that he has nowhere on his portrait (instead of replacing his old blue leather color with maybe green one that appears on the left side of his portrait). I mean, I like blue, it's my favourite color. But default NPC colors should match their portraits. Blue has (should have) no place in Xan's colour scheme...
I suggest you copy NPC portraits (one by one) to Paint (simplest microsoft windows painting tool), spread the painting area so that you have some blank space next to the portrait, and use that color checking tool on parts of NPC portrait and then paint that blank area of picture with that color to see more clearly what color it is, and then give NPC similar color, not some non existing (on his portrait) one.
You could enable the use of BG2 portraits (since they already are in game resources) during character creation while you're at it.
And have you even thought about making leather, armor and metal colors editable during character creation, or it is too hard for you to implement (too complicated GUI change)? Many have requested it, and it would really be a nice feature since there are not many ways to customize character appearance in the game. At least we shouldn't be stuck with that ugly brown leather for the rest of the game (without using EE gatekeeper)...
Thank you for your patience in reading all this...
Every NPC has a "replacement" portrait that is used when you use his portrait for your CHARNAME.Erg said:
Iecerint said:Which face does BG give to them?
NPC REPLACEMENT
AJANTISL MAN2L
AJANTISS MAN2S
ALORAL WOMAN1L
ALORAS WOMAN1S
BRANWEL WOMAN2L
BRANWES WOMAN2S
CORANL GENMELFL
CORANS GENMELFS
DYNAHEIL WOMAN2L
DYNAHEIS WOMAN2S
EDWINL GENMHLFL
EDWINS GENMHLFS
ELDOTHL GENMHLFL
ELDOTHS GENMHLFS
FALDORNL WOMAN2L
FALDORNS WOMAN2S
GARRICKL MAN2L
GARRICKS MAN2S
IMOENL WOMAN2L
IMOENS WOMAN2S
JAHEIRAL WOMAN1L
JAHEIRAS WOMAN1S
KAGAINL GENDWRFL
KAGAINS GENDWRFS
KHALIDL MAN2L
KHALIDS MAN2S
KIVANL GENMELFL
KIVANS GENMELFS
MINSCL MAN1L
MINSCS MAN1S
MONTARL GENMHLFL
MONTARS GENMHLFS
QUAYLEL GENMHLFL
QUAYLES GENMHLFS
SAFANAL WOMAN2L
SAFANAS WOMAN2S
SHARTELL WOMAN2L
SHARTELS WOMAN2S
SKIEL WOMAN2L
SKIES WOMAN2S
TIAXL GENMHLFL
TIAXS GENMHLFS
VICONIAL WOMAN1L
VICONIAS WOMAN1S
XANL GENMELFL
XANS GENMELFS
XZARL GENMHLFL
XZARS GENMHLFS
YESLICKL GENDWRFL
YESLICKS GENDWRFS
MAN1L MINSCL
MAN1S MINSCS
MAN2L AJANTISL
MAN2S AJANTISS
WOMAN1L ALORAL
WOMAN1S ALORAS
WOMAN2L BRANWEL
WOMAN2S BRANWES
GENMELFL CORANL
GENMELFS CORANS
GENMHLFL EDWINL
GENMHLFS EDWINS
GENDWRFL KAGAINL
GENDWRFS KAGAINS
NAERIEM WOMAN2M
NAERIES WOMAN2S
NANOMENM AJANTISM
NANOMENS AJANTISS
NCERNDM GENMHLFM
NCERNDS GENMHLFS
NEDWINM EDWINM
NEDWINS EDWINS
NHAERM ELDOTHM
NHAERS ELDOTHS
NIMOENM IMOENM
NIMOENS IMOENS
NJAHEIRM JAHEIRAM
NJAHEIRS JAHEIRAS
NJANM TIAXM
NJANS TIAXS
NKELDORM MAN1M
NKELDORS MAN1S
NKORGANM YESLICKM
NKORGANS YESLICKS
NMAZZYM WOMAN1M
NMAZZYS WOMAN1S
NMHORCM MAN1M
NMHORCS MAN1S
NMINSCM MINSCM
NMINSCS MINSCS
NNALIAM DYNAHEIM
NNALIAS DYNAHEIS
NVALYGAM KHALIDM
NVALYGAS KHALIDS
NVICONM VICONIAM
NVICONS VICONIAS
NYOSHIMM MONTARM
NYOSHIMS MONTARS
DORNL MAN2L
DORNS MAN2S
RASAADL MAN1L
RASAADS MAN1S
NEERAL WOMAN1L
NEERAS WOMAN1S
DORNM MAN2M
RASAADM MAN1M
NEERAM WOMAN1M
However these "replacements" are not very logical. Some mages get fighters in armor replacements or thieves get them, or something similar.
Also NPCs that are playable in BG2 and have different portraits in BG2 do not have their BG2 portraits as replacements, but generic ones even though BG2 portraits are included in BGEE game resources (you can access them with EE gatekeeper or NearInfinity).
So I made a new replacement list that gives NPCs playable in BG2 their BG2 portraits as replacements and every other NPC gets a different replacement (mostly BG2 character or one of new MANLEY portraits).
I gave new EE NPCs original BG1/BG2 portraits as replacements so that people who don't like new portrait style could change their portraits to original ones by changing their CHARNAME's portrait to EE NPC portrait (so that the NPC swaps his/her portrait with replacement) and then change back your CHARNAME portrait to the one you use. So you could change your CHARNAME portrait to Dorn's to get Dorn to change his portrait to BG2 half-orc one, and then have Dorn with original BG style portrait.
Also since BG1 NPCs playable in BG2 would have their BG2 portraits as replacement you could use the same method to give Viconia BG2 portrait by changing your CHARNAME's portrait to Viconia's to get her to change her portrait and then change it back and play with VIconia that has BG2 portrait.
Of course you can only choose portraits of your CHARNAME's sex for your CHARNAME so it would not work that way for NPCs of opposite sex (because you can't choose their portrait for your CHARNAME), but maybe belt of opposite alignment would work (I haven't tried that, it just came to me as I was writing this)...
I also gave replacements portraits replacement portrait that it replaces so that if you accidently choose some NPC portrait for your CHARNAME (and get NPC to swap his), you could change NPCs portrait back to original by choosing replacement NPC portrait for your CHARNAME.
You can edit your CHARNAME portraits by going to your character sheet->CUSTOMIZE->APPEARANCE.
Now here's a list:
Not all replacements are logical (human Branwen having elven Arerie's portrait as replacement), but it is the only way that I could arrange tham so that every NPC would have a different replacement that somewhat looks like him, so that people could use that changing od CHARNAME's portrait trick to give them different portraits, and change them back without using EE gatekeeper.
NPC REPLACEMENT REPLACEMENT COMMENT
AJANTISM NKELDORM
AJANTISS NKELDORS (Ajantis uses Keldorn's portrait)
ALORAM NMAZZYM
ALORAS NMAZZYS (Alora uses Mazzy's portrait)
BRANWEM NAERIEM
BRANWES NAERIES (Branwen uses Aerie's portrait)
CORANM NHAERM
CORANS NHAERS (Coran uses Haer'Dalis portrait)
DYNAHEIM MANLEYXM
DYNAHEIS MANLEYXS (Dynaheir uses one of the new portraits)
EDWINM NEDWINM
EDWINS NEDWINS (Edwin uses his BG2 portrait)
ELDOTHM NVALYGAM
ELDOTHS NVALYGAS (Eldoth uses Valygar's portrait)
FALDORNM MANLEY5M
FALDORNS MANLEY5S (Faldorn uses one of the new portraits)
GARRICKM MAN2M
GARRICKS MAN2S (Garrick's replacement is OK)
IMOENM NIMOENM
IMOENS NIMOENS (Imoen uses her BG2 portrait)
JAHEIRAM NJAHEIRM
JAHEIRAS NJAHEIRS (Jaheira uses her BG2 portrait)
KAGAINM NKORGANM
KAGAINS NKORGANS (Kagain uses Korgan's portrait)
KHALIDM NANOMENM
KHALIDS NANOMENS (Khalid uses Anomen's portrait)
KIVANM NCERNDM
KIVANS NCERNDS (Kivan uses Cernd's portrait)
MINSCM NMINSCM
MINSCS NMINSCS (Minsc uses his BG2 portrait)
MONTARM NYOSHIMM
MONTARS NYOSHIMS (Montaron uses Yoshimo's portrait)
QUAYLEM NJANM
QUAYLES NJANS (Quayle uses Jan's portrait)
SAFANAM WOMAN2L
SAFANAS WOMAN2S (Safana's replacement is OK)
SHARTELM MANLEY2M
SHARTELS MANLEY2S (Shar-Teel uses one of the new portraits)
SKIEM NNALIA
SKIES NNALIAS (Skie uses Nalia's portrait)
TIAXM GENMHLFM
TIAXS GENMHLFS (Tiax's replacement is OK)
VICONIAM NVICONM
VICONIAS NVICONS (Viconia uses her BG2 portrait)
XANM GENMELFM
XANS GENMELFS (Xan's replacement is OK)
XZARM MANLEY8M
XZARS MANLEY8S (Xzar uses one of the new portraits)
YESLICKM GENDWRFM
YESLICKS GENDWRFS (Yeslick's replacement is OK)
BAELOTHM NJONM
BAELOTHS NJONS (Baeloth uses Joneleth's portrait)
DORNM NHORCM
DORNS NHORCS (Dorn uses half-orc BG2 original portrait)
NEERAM WOMAN1M
NEERAS WOMAN1S (Neera uses female elf original portrait)
RASAADM MAN1M
RASAADS MAN1S (Rasaad uses bald guy original portrait)
MAN1M RASAADM
MAN1S RASAADS
MAN2M GARRICKM
MAN2S GARRICKS
WOMAN1M NEERAM
WOMAN1S NEERAS
WOMAN2M SAFANAM
WOMAN2 SSAFANAS
GENMELFM XANM
GENMELFS XANS
GENMHLFM TIAXM
GENMHLFS TIAXS
GENDWRFM YESLICKM
GENDWRFS YESLICKS
NAERIEM BRANWEM
NAERIES BRANWES
NANOMENM KHALIDM
NANOMENS KHALIDS
NCERNDM KIVANM
NCERNDS KIVANS
NEDWINM EDWINM
NEDWINS EDWINS
NHAERM CORANM
NHAERS CORANS
NIMOENM IMOENM
NIMOENS IMOENS
NJAHEIRM JAHEIRAM
NJAHEIRS JAHEIRAS
NJANM QUAYLEM
NJANS QUAYLES
NJONM BAELOTHM
NJONS BAELOTHS
NKELDORM AJANTISM
NKELDORS AJANTISS
NKORGANM KAGAINM
NKORGANS KAGAINS
NMAZZYM ALORAM
NMAZZYS ALORAS
NMHORCM DORNM
NMHORCS DORNS
NMINSCM MINSCM
NMINSCS MINSCS
NNALIAM SKIEM
NNALIAS SKIES
NVALYGAM ELDOTHM
NVALYGAS ELDOTHS
NVICONM VICONIAM
NVICONS VICONIAS
NYOSHIMM MONTARM
NYOSHIMS MONTARS
SAREVOKM MANLEY9M
SAREVOKS MANLEY9S (Sarevok uses one of the new portraits)
MANLEY0M MANLEY6M
MANLEY0S MANLEY6S
MANLEY1M MANLEY4M
MANLEY1S MANLEY4S
MANLEY2M SHARTELM
MANLEY2S SHARTELS
MANLEY3M MANLEY7M
MANLEY3S MANLEY7S
MANLEY4M MANLEY1M
MANLEY4S MANLEY1S
MANLEY5M FALDORNM
MANLEY5S FALDORNS
MANLEY6M MANLEY0M
MANLEY6S MANLEY0S
MANLEY7M MANLEY3M
MANLEY7S MANLEY3S
MANLEY8M XZARM
MANLEY8S XZARS
MANLEY9M SAREVOKM
MANLEY9S SAREVOKS
MANLEYXM DYNAHEIM
MANLEYXS DYNAHEIS
And while I'm talking about appearance customization, how about checking those NPC color changes that you've made in the last patch? Default NPC colours should match their portraits. However you really screwed up Imoen's colors and they do not match her portrait. And you gave Xan some blue mnor clothing colors that he has nowhere on his portrait (instead of replacing his old blue leather color with maybe green one that appears on the left side of his portrait). I mean, I like blue, it's my favourite color. But default NPC colors should match their portraits. Blue has (should have) no place in Xan's colour scheme...
I suggest you copy NPC portraits (one by one) to Paint (simplest microsoft windows painting tool), spread the painting area so that you have some blank space next to the portrait, and use that color checking tool on parts of NPC portrait and then paint that blank area of picture with that color to see more clearly what color it is, and then give NPC similar color, not some non existing (on his portrait) one.
You could enable the use of BG2 portraits (since they already are in game resources) during character creation while you're at it.
And have you even thought about making leather, armor and metal colors editable during character creation, or it is too hard for you to implement (too complicated GUI change)? Many have requested it, and it would really be a nice feature since there are not many ways to customize character appearance in the game. At least we shouldn't be stuck with that ugly brown leather for the rest of the game (without using EE gatekeeper)...
Thank you for your patience in reading all this...
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