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Black powder

RenshtalisRenshtalis Member Posts: 136
edited July 2012 in Archive (Feature Requests)
I have no idea how hard it would be but is there any chance of adding black powder weapons? For example the epic ness of a swashbuckler going into battle with a brace of pistols, letting off two shots then running in with his duel wielding cutless attack would be totally sweet! Also with the gnome affinity for tech, they could get some kind of bonus using BP weapons. Just throwing the idea out there.

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  • AranneasAranneas Member Posts: 282
    Well, 2e/2.5 does have firearms rules supplements but I don't think they exist in the Forgotten Realms setting at the time the games are set. It would be difficult to find a way to make them work (outside of easter eggs like the Big Metal Unit)
  • RenshtalisRenshtalis Member Posts: 136
    Bummer, I just thought since gnomes had flying ships n there were swashbuckling pirates we could have blunderbuss' n pistols.
  • AeltasAeltas Member Posts: 2
    edited July 2012
    Firearms in the Forgotten Realms Settings are a jealously kept secret of the gnome of the Lantan (big island in the South West of Faërûn (in the middle of the Trackless Sea)). Worshipping Gond (god of knowledge) these gnomes despise magic relying mostly on technology to solve their daily problems.

    If I remember well, as gunpowder is a Gond favour granted only to them, I would doubt any human (or even other gnome) could easily find any on the baldur's gate area of the sword coast.

    however ... In BG2 you actually encounter some lantanese gnome in the Waukyne promnade... maybe you could ask them :-D
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  • RenshtalisRenshtalis Member Posts: 136
    So perhaps a swashbuckler quest with the gnomes for a brace of pistols... NIIIIICE!
  • AeltasAeltas Member Posts: 2
    I rather think that you are overestimating your ability to turn ones against his own allegiances. For instance, even if someone saved your life, it is unlikely that you would consider rewarding him with the very secret of the defences of your homeland (and a sacred gift). They don't trade gunpowder either.
  • AranneasAranneas Member Posts: 282
    We are left with two solutions, then.

    Torture... or blackmail.

    :D
  • RenshtalisRenshtalis Member Posts: 136
    I'm down with torturing small round humanoids, can I get this seconded to pass the motion?
  • dandydandy Member Posts: 35
    which gnomes would those be in waukeens promenade?
  • RenshtalisRenshtalis Member Posts: 136
    The ones packin heat, hangin fast n lose on tha street, popin caps in arses thinking it's sweet! Those ones ;)
  • mch202mch202 Member Posts: 1,455
    edited July 2012
    ZelgadisGW said:

    Guns in Baldur's Gate? Seriously people, seriously?

    @ZelgadisGW, I wish I could press on the Agree button more than once...
  • ShinShin Member Posts: 2,344
    Well.. as has been pointed out; there are things like airships, telescopes/observatories and a significant amount of various technical machinery/inventions already existing in the BG world. I wouldn't view the inclusion of some not-so-accurate/powerful firearms as a lore/immersion breach.
  • AranneasAranneas Member Posts: 282
    ZelgadisGW said:

    Guns in Baldur's Gate? Seriously people, seriously?

    You ain't seen nothin' yet. Just wait until we ask for chest high walls!

  • O_BruceO_Bruce Member Posts: 2,790
    @Aranneas people had already asked for dinosaurs on this forum, so I doubt I'll ever be surprised.
  • AranneasAranneas Member Posts: 282
    edited July 2012
    Well duh. How do you think we get the chest high walls into the game? Can't have Irenicus destroy every level ya know.
  • O_BruceO_Bruce Member Posts: 2,790
    @Aranneas I believe I've said that I wouldn't be surprised had anyone asked for this, even if it is stupid, retarted or impossible.
  • Space_hamsterSpace_hamster Member Posts: 950
    I played a gun nut dwarf in Arcanum. Gunpowder weapons were so underpowered in that game, one could barely gather enough raw ingredients to manufacture the gunpowder and bullets. Of course, using a gun against a magic user was a lot of fun, conceptually that is. In retrospect, Arcanum had so much promise but failed to deliver in just about everything.
  • AranneasAranneas Member Posts: 282
    ZelgadisGW said:

    @Aranneas I believe I've said that I wouldn't be surprised had anyone asked for this, even if it is stupid, retarted or impossible.

    I was making a joke. I'm sorry it didn't come across. in my sleep-deprived state I actually found it fairly clever.

  • DrugarDrugar Member Posts: 1,566
    Space_hamster said:

    I played a gun nut dwarf in Arcanum. Gunpowder weapons were so underpowered in that game, one could barely gather enough raw ingredients to manufacture the gunpowder and bullets. Of course, using a gun against a magic user was a lot of fun, conceptually that is. In retrospect, Arcanum had so much promise but failed to deliver in just about everything.

    Well, you could get something out of it, but it involved ignoring your quests and spending a month or two in Tarant, running from the shops to the garbage bins, crafting guns and using the money from selling those to get new plans. When you get the Elephant Gun or the Tesla Rifle, things start to look up. Before that though...it's rough times. And it still doesn't beat Harm, a level 1 spell.
    Unbalanced game. Fun though.
  • Space_hamsterSpace_hamster Member Posts: 950
    Drugar said:

    Space_hamster said:

    I played a gun nut dwarf in Arcanum. Gunpowder weapons were so underpowered in that game, one could barely gather enough raw ingredients to manufacture the gunpowder and bullets. Of course, using a gun against a magic user was a lot of fun, conceptually that is. In retrospect, Arcanum had so much promise but failed to deliver in just about everything.

    Well, you could get something out of it, but it involved ignoring your quests and spending a month or two in Tarant, running from the shops to the garbage bins, crafting guns and using the money from selling those to get new plans. When you get the Elephant Gun or the Tesla Rifle, things start to look up. Before that though...it's rough times. And it still doesn't beat Harm, a level 1 spell.
    Unbalanced game. Fun though.
    I really liked the atmosphere of the game and made it to tarant. Exploring the city was fun as I recall. However, I came to a dead end in the game by getting stuck in a dungeon, I remember giant rats, or moles... I couldn't bring myself to restart the game from the beginning ;).
  • SirBuliwyfSirBuliwyf Member Posts: 137
    edited July 2012
    Thank Torm there are no guns.
  • gesellegeselle Member Posts: 325
    Some people just want to see Baldur's Gate burned to ashes, and steampunk-fantasy like the warcraft franchise erected in its place...
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