Chaotic Evil Party

Senash

So I'm soon finishing my current playthrough and have been playing with the thought of doing an insanely cruel and evil playthrough, laying waste to the Sword Coast and its denizens, leaving a desecrated, bloody swath behind me with burned out villages and hundreds of slaughtered innocents. Cutting myself such a piece out of history that by the time I meet Sarevok, he will piss his pantaloons out of raw fear and will doubt the potential of his own plan (rising to godhood through massacre on a large scale), since if I have not yet became the new God of Murder, then most likely no one ever shall...

So.

Whaddaya guys think? Who should tag along? I'm pretty sure, I'm taking Xzar and Monty. Most likely Shar-teel too. Main char would be utterly selfish, chaotic evil, with abolutely no regard to others wants, needs, emotions or life. A complete and utter psychopath. Most likely an arcane caster, cause raining fire all around, disregarding the effect it could potentially have on allies seems like a thing he would do... But some kind of thief also occured to me. Maybe the Shadowdancer kit or an Assassin. No Blackguard, already played that. Haven't even decided if I want a full party or not. I'm open to any suggestions.

ShadowHunter

So if I was you , I would go for the Shadowdancer or assassin without putting skills in your disarm traps etc. since you have Monty. Don't do an arcane caster 'cause you already have Xzar
( unless you want to dual him to cleric, I don't know) . You should take Viconia, the only evil cleric ( beside Tiax, but you get him like Really late). But as I said if you want to dual Xzar don't take Vici.

I guess if you would do a playthrough with a party of 5 it would do some pretty hard damage:
You as a backstabbing murder machine
Monty is a good tank
Shar-teel is awesome but her CON kinda sucks, so I would recommend Kagain 'cause you can higher up his poor dexterity with the bracers.
Xzar as a Necromaner ( maybe cleric )
Viconia if you don't dual Xzar.

So I say you a thief, monty, Kagain, Xzar ( dualed) and Shar-teel or you a thief, monty, Xzar ( not dualed) Kagain and Viconia

I hope this will help you

shawne

Dorn would be a good fit for that party too.

Senash

Since I'm a more roleplayish player, I'm not a big fan of dualling Xzar. But I don't really like Tiax (I guess my char will 'test' his alleged power when they meet... ). So that leaves Viconia as cleric. But I might just try going without one... Although having a reputation of 1 might not give me huge benefits when using church services...

Dorn is great. I think I will use him, but my last evil party was the following: Edwin, Dorn, Vici, Baeloth, Safana and Me (Blackguard). And as much as I love the red wizard, the drow girl, and the Dorn, I'm trying to think outside the box. That said, I still might end up having Viconia in the party. I never before used Shar-Teel though.

Also keep in mind that I'm not looking for a perfectly balanced party! Just shoot, maybe tell me how your utter-evil party would look like

elminster

If you are playing with like 1 or 2 reputation you won't be able to get Viconia in your party. Your leader is going to need to have a high enough NPC reaction score otherwise she will just walk. So make sure you have a decent charisma when you grab her and that you do that before any rampage

Lateralus

Take a half-orc fighter/thief, with a 19str, 18dex, 19con, 9int, 7wis, and a 18chr. Use all of the manuals and by the end of the game he will have 20str, 19dex, 20con, 10int, 10wis, and a 19chr. Put all of your points into stealth and trap removal.

Take Kagain. Build him into an unstoppable tank. He draws all of the attention while you murder spell casters before they have a chance to do anything.

With 20 cons, you both regenerate, so you dont need a healer.

Later on take Baeloth and have him learn knock for the locks you cant break, and get spirit armor.

With the boots of speed, charname and Kagain are an unstoppable duo, as long as you use hit and run tactics vs. greater opponents.

If you make sure your rep is 10 or greater before dream sequences, you can get slow poison and cure light wounds, that plus potions is all the healing you need.

Mortianna

@Lateralus Since it's a Chaotic Evil party, wouldn't Shar-Teel be a better fit than Kagain? Kagain doesn't really care about fighting or bloodshed--it's all about loot! He's also Lawful Evil, so he wouldn't take well to being in a party of barbarous thugs capriciously spreading chaos and destruction everywhere they go.

Lateralus

@mortianna Kagain is very smart, which is part of the reason why he seems to resent his natural ability to take unearthly amounts of punishment. And you're right, he prefers a logical course of action as opposed to stupidity. It would take a slippery sociopath to keep him on board with the slaughtering of innocents, but with his low wisdom and the right cursed item, you can feed him the promise of gold to get him to do just about anything. It also helps to keep him drunk.

Shar-teel would be a less challenging companion, she is self motivated enough to provoke the wrath of the Flaming Fist mercenaries without any need for a nudge. She hates her dad, I think. You could put the belt of masculinity on Viconia or Branwen to keep her emotionally involved with the party. lol

kamuizin

I'm playing a Barbarian atm with an evil party. But as i wanted to make diferent this time, i created a Chaotic Neutral character instead of directly make him evil, that will come later, in the tear of bhaal quest on BG2 chapter 7 (9 Hells, what is stupid as Bhaal realm is in the abyss if i'm not wrong).

Reputations is well hold atm, i try to keep it between 6/9 for now.

Atm it's me, Xzar (dualed at lvl 6) and monty, viconia, Kagain (EE keeper him to Dwarven Defender editing the skills to fix the kit propely) and edwin.

So far it's being nice.

If you want Tiax but does not want to wait until the end of game to get him, use Sword Coast Stratagems mod to change his spot point to Beregost.

DreadKhan

I did a ce barbarian halfer... Was an interesting play. Used viconia, dualled Xzar, Monty, shar and kagain as an archer. Erm, shar was also an archer... Kagain used the longbow, shar the comp +1. Kagain also used the gauntlets of dex, so basically my pic was the main tank and damage dealer when raged... Something about a ~3ft tall halfling girl running about with frost giant level strength and dialling with daggers was entertaining. And effective. Clerics used for crowd control, somewhat for buffs. Since there was so much ranged damage already, didn't need more than Xzar for arcane.

Senash

Hm, Barbarian actually sounds like a good idea... Thanks! Never tried the class before, but I've always found it interesting on a level. Finally someone would use splint mail armour! Now I'm trying to decide mainly between Wild Mage, Sorcerer and Barbarian.

Kagain is a really good NPC, but I have to agree with @Mortianna. He doesn't really fit my party conception. I think Xzar, Monty and Shar-Teel are fixed for me. Not sure if I want to take Baeloth again. He is fun to have, but as an easter egg, I'm a afraid he won't be in BG2EE (it might have already been stated, I'm not sure), so I feel that he just doesn't really belong. Like he only exists in an alternate BG universe. Not sure how to put this in words.

"Luckily" I have a lot of work on hand, so won't start the playthrough for awhile. Will have plenty time to think about the other 2 members. Maybe I'll just wing it on the go, to add more "chaotic" in it

DreadKhan

Barb allows you to run something that isn't the uberpowerful pc most of the time if you don't max str, while still letting you suddenly become the worst nightmare of a boss. 15 str means 19 when raged... From almost no bonus but enough to carry your gear, to +7 damage. It's hilarious to behold. Wear the expertise gauntlets too, not the ogre gauntlets... That said, better starting stats are still sweet, and running a fighting character with lower str is very different. Hence the Khalid hate.

rdarken

I don't think Viconia fits. While she enjoys a low reputation, she never seemed very .... "slaughter-crazy" to me. She just doesn't really like compassion.
Edwin could pass, I think. While he doesn't seem the type to go out on a rampage on his own, I think he definitely would be the type to enjoy it.
Wouldn't Tiax work, since he worships Cyric?
I think you could work with Eldoth if you wanted, as well.

Honestly, you could probably even take Safana.

EDIT: Duh, I forgot about the new NPCs. Dorn for sure.

Fubby

I would go with:
Mainchar
Monty
Xzar dualing into a cleric.
Kagin
Seeeecret chaaaarater
And Shar-teel

Wowo

I definitely agree that Kagain wouldn't fit well with the theme.

Xzar (dualed to cleric at 6), Montaron, Shar-teel (dualed to thief at 6), Tiax are shoe ins being that their mostly chaotic evil and general anarchists.

The last slot can go to Dorn. He definitely gets a spot just for saying that he wants to "cut a bloody swathe across the sword coast".

With 3 thieves (backstabbing for goodness!), 2 fighters, 2 clerics, 1 paladin and 1 wizard I'd say that charname can be an arcane - maybe a sorcerer? Grab stoneskin and fireshield as level 4 spells and can double as tank - maybe go with Dragon Disciple for something different.

ShapiroKeatsDarkMage

Mortianna said:

@Lateralus Since it's a Chaotic Evil party, wouldn't Shar-Teel be a better fit than Kagain? Kagain doesn't really care about fighting or bloodshed--it's all about loot! He's also Lawful Evil, so he wouldn't take well to being in a party of barbarous thugs capriciously spreading chaos and destruction everywhere they go.

Because chaos and destruction aren't good for business.