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kansasbarbariankansasbarbarian Member Posts: 206
edited August 2013 in Archive (General Discussion)
Started playing BG 2 again after many years of not playing. And the blame is all of these posts about it :) But anyways I have been mostly playing with my beloved F/T dual class. I noticed after I got UAI and started experimenting with items that I can get really high bonuses against magic, fire, acid, poison, cold, and physical damage types. So I was wondering if you could get 100% damage against all of those with items and HLA's, at the same time.

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  • Lord_TansheronLord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,212
    You can simply stack scrolls of their respective protection type and get there, but it's not possible to get passive 100% resistance to EVERYTHING just from equipped items. You can get significant elemental resistances and some magic resistance, as well as a good chunk of some physical ones. How high exactly the numbers go depends, but it won't be 100%.

    For entertainment value you could go through all the item files and check whatever gives the most resistances in a given equipment slot, but I'm pretty sure some of the highest ones are mututally exclusive (like physical vs. elemental resistance on helm or armor). I say entertainment value, because from an objective, powergaming perspective it's not worth it to stack everything; there is value in having items at hand to switch in and out for specific fights, though.

    You can also add skills and abilities into the mix to achieve some useful numbers, like say stacking the Hardiness HLA with Defender of Easthaven+3 for considerable physical resistance, albeit with a limited duration.
  • artificial_sunlightartificial_sunlight Member Posts: 601
    100% Elemental resistance can't be realy hard if you use Valygar and some dragon themed items I think
  • kamuizinkamuizin Member Posts: 3,704
    Cloak of Displacement if i'm not wrong give 75% elemental resistances, it's a very nice start. Helm of defense (there are a bunch on the game) give 25% resistance to elemental dmg, dragon shield (25% if i'm not wrong also) and some other items.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    This is the abilities for cloak of displacement. At least according to the in-game description (I would be surprised to learn if there was a hidden 75% elemental resistance benefit).

    http://www.gamebanshee.com/showshot.php?/baldursgateii/equipment/images/cloakofdisplacement.jpg


    In any case I think most of the resistances can be obtained temporarily through scroll use, but especially in the case of physical resistances I don't think you'll be able to get 100% resistance in everything.
  • mjsmjs Member Posts: 742
    edited August 2013
    i think you could get most, the damage types you'd need to cover are

    blunt. slashing. piercing. missile.
    magic. magic damage.
    acid. fire. cold. electricity.

    i think the ultimate resistance tank would need

    armour: human skin (MR 20%)
    head: dragon helm (F/C/E 25%)
    necklace: seldarine (MR 10%) (corrected by elminster below)
    ring: gaxx/fire control (MR 10%/F 50%)
    boots: of grounding (E 50%)
    belt: of inertial barrier (Mi 25%, MD 50%)
    weapon set: carmsoyr (MR 50%)

    I'm not sure if you'd need the magic damage or elemental resistances if you had full MR though, anyone else know?
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    Seldarine necklace is 10%
  • mjsmjs Member Posts: 742
    well for physical resistances a c/t could wear:

    jan's armour (Bl/Sl/Pe/Mi: 25%)
    belt of inertial barrier (Mi: 25%)
    roranarchs horn (Bl: 50%)
    Defender of Easthaven (Bl/Sl/Pe/Mi (25%)

    Giving passive resistances
    Blunt: 100%. Slashing: 50%. Piercing: 50%. Missile: 75%)

    Then with Armor of Faith (+5% per 5 levels, starting with 5% at lvl 1). At caster level 20: + 25% to all of the above...not shabby
  • mjsmjs Member Posts: 742
    elminster said:

    Seldarine necklace is 10%

    huh...i knew that too, straaaaange. still as it is 90% + tears of bhaal MR +10% for 100% total MR

  • Lord_TansheronLord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,212
    mjs said:

    well for physical resistances a c/t could wear:

    jan's armour (Bl/Sl/Pe/Mi: 25%)
    belt of inertial barrier (Mi: 25%)
    roranarchs horn (Bl: 50%)
    Defender of Easthaven (Bl/Sl/Pe/Mi (25%)

    Giving passive resistances
    Blunt: 100%. Slashing: 50%. Piercing: 50%. Missile: 75%)

    Then with Armor of Faith (+5% per 5 levels, starting with 5% at lvl 1). At caster level 20: + 25% to all of the above...not shabby

    How exactly does one get Armor of Faith and Jan's Armor at the same time without editing the game? Pretty sure there are no AoF scrolls for a thief to use...
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    edited August 2013
    Edit: woops nevermind
  • mjsmjs Member Posts: 742
    Lord_Tansheron said:

    mjs said:

    well for physical resistances a c/t could wear:

    jan's armour (Bl/Sl/Pe/Mi: 25%)
    belt of inertial barrier (Mi: 25%)
    roranarchs horn (Bl: 50%)
    Defender of Easthaven (Bl/Sl/Pe/Mi (25%)

    Giving passive resistances
    Blunt: 100%. Slashing: 50%. Piercing: 50%. Missile: 75%)

    Then with Armor of Faith (+5% per 5 levels, starting with 5% at lvl 1). At caster level 20: + 25% to all of the above...not shabby

    How exactly does one get Armor of Faith and Jan's Armor at the same time without editing the game? Pretty sure there are no AoF scrolls for a thief to use...
    c/t, cleric/thief. The cleric accesses AoF, UAI let's him use the jansen armour
  • Lord_TansheronLord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,212
    You're right, I forgot you can actually do that combination. My mistake.
  • kamuizinkamuizin Member Posts: 3,704
    edited August 2013
    @elminster, my bad, i meant belt of inertial barrier (BELT10), my mistake.


    STATISTICS

    Abilities:
    + 5 to saves vs. breath weapons
    + 25% Resistance to Missile Damage (Missile Attacks will do three quarters
    of full damage)
    + 50% Resistance to Magic Damage (Magic Attacks (Such as Magic Missile,
    Abi Dalzim's Horrid Wilting, etc.) will do half of full damage)

    http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/258273-baldurs-gate-ii-shadows-of-amn/faqs/9332

    And it's 50% to magic damage (not elemental resistance) not 75%.
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