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So i played tactics/scsii insane BG2:SOA FINAL BATTLE 2x bugged?

zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
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im a sad panda 2x beat it 2x bugg frozen cut scene the same cutcscene
http://youtu.be/1H3Chb_Tu24

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  • ShinShin Member Posts: 2,344
    He's not supposed to summon the fragments a second time. Did you install the tactics or SCSII version of this battle?
  • Lord_TansheronLord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,212
    I've never seen that particular bug. It sounds like some weird scripting error, possibly caused by two mods interfering with each other. I couldn't really say which, though... As @Shin said, it's not supposed to happen twice.
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    edited August 2013
    Shin said:

    He's not supposed to summon the fragments a second time. Did you install the tactics or SCSII version of this battle?

    both

    what should i install to have the most hardcore irenicus?
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
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  • Lord_TansheronLord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,212
    I think I've stuck to Tactics Irenicus. It's a fairly complex fight, I don't know what SCSII would improve on it. He already uses massive scripting, buffs, etc. Maybe you can try and google for known interference between the two versions?
  • 10thLich10thLich Member Posts: 99
    Well, if they're both modifying the same scripts and dialogues, it stands to reason that there will be some sort of conflict. Especially if DavidW billed his improved Irenicus as a Tactics-Remix.

    If you're comfortable with Near Infinity or DLTCEP you should take/let someone take a look at your versions of:
    cut85a.bcs, cut85b.bcs, cut85c.bcs, helljon.dlg, cutii0.bcs, ar2900.bcs.
    Those should be all files of SCSII involved in its Tactics-Remix concerning the spawning etc.

    Tactics itself uses a few more, and I don't know how those intersect as I've never used Tactics.

    10th
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    edited August 2013
    i just want it to be at least this hard it is described as tactics/scsii so i really don't know what is this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBe8EV_MCgM

    from gibberlings forum tactis is harder http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showtopic=11900

    spoiler of improved irenicus in hell scsii/tactics description
    Improved Irenicus in Hell
    Irenicus originally splits into five copies:

    * The Dragon of Pride, basically a clone of the Shadow Dragon
    * The Orb of Fear, a beholder with some initial defensive buffs (Blade Barrier, Spell Turning, Fire Shields, Spell Immunity: Abjuration, and Protection from Magic Weapons) and with its central (antimagic) eye replaced by a ray that reduces Constitution. (The original one instead used randomly selected eyestalk powers from a list including basically every beholder-kin power in the game.)
    * The Wraith of Wrath, a magic-immune warrior whose blows drain 2 points of strength per hit
    * The Sword of Greed, an ultrapowerful, regenerating version of Mordenkainen's Sword whose blows drain 4 levels per hit and boost the Sword itself
    * Selfish Jon (not a name used in-game), a version of Irenicus who is a 25th level wizard with immunity to damaging magic and greatly improved casting time, and a new spell - "shatter magic" which is basically an ultrapowerful dispel. (The original version had permanent Improved Alacrity, but chose spells randomly from a list instead of getting a proper spell book.)

    After that, you get an autosave, and (unless you set "DMWWIINoRest" to 1 at the console) everyone gets resurrected and healed. Then you get either the original Tactics 2nd and 3rd round (see that mod for details) or the SCSII standard Irenicus battle. Note that the Dragon, the Orb, and Selfish Jon only get SCSII scripting if you've installed the appropriate AI components (otherwise the original version is used).

    In the original version, each of the fragments steals an item from you (the Dragon takes the Amulet of Power, the Orb takes the Shield of Balduran, the Wraith takes Crom Faeyr, the Sword takes Weimer's "Acid Kensai" sword, and Selfish Jon takes the Cloak of Mirroring). I find this a bit unrealistic so it's disabled by default; you can re-enable it by setting "DMWWIIStealStuff" to 1 at the console.

    Also in the original version, on Insane difficulty the fragments all spawn allies - wraiths for the Wraith, beholders for the Orb, wyverns for the Dragon, Mordenkainen's Swords for the Sword, and liches for Selfish Jon. I tie this to a variable rather than the difficulty slider: it's off by default, but setting DMWWIISpawn to 2 enables all spawning and setting it to 1 enables all spawning except for liches.


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  • Lord_TansheronLord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,212
    I haven't tried the SCSII version, as I've always been using the Tactics one and found it to be quite challenging. If you don't use cheese (such as spike traps on the spawn points), it's a fairly difficult fight; I would definitely rank it in the top5, especially given how you don't have all the ToB gear at that point (no FoA+5 for example).
  • ShinShin Member Posts: 2,344
    Your problem is almost guaranteed the double install of pure tactics Irenicus in hell and then tactics/SCSII hybrid; you should uninstall one of them. Tactics is harder, the hybrid version is more lenient (or less cheap/unfair, depending on how you view it), and tactics has one more phase not there in the hybrid version.
  • ShinShin Member Posts: 2,344
    Lord_Tansheron said:

    If you don't use cheese (such as spike traps on the spawn points), it's a fairly difficult fight; I would definitely rank it in the top5, especially given how you don't have all the ToB gear at that point (no FoA+5 for example).

    I'd agree.. think the tactics version has cheese countermeasures even by spawning some shades first to set off traps. Still, for me there are also differences between "interesting difficult", "tedious difficult" and "long-series-of-trial-and-error-difficult" that are worth thinking about. Tactics is a good choice for someone who approaches combat like a logical problem and wants to use every possible way inside the game engine to beat it.

  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    i will uninstal scsii or reinstall BG and install mods again
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    Shin said:

    Lord_Tansheron said:

    If you don't use cheese (such as spike traps on the spawn points), it's a fairly difficult fight; I would definitely rank it in the top5, especially given how you don't have all the ToB gear at that point (no FoA+5 for example).

    I'd agree.. think the tactics version has cheese countermeasures even by spawning some shades first to set off traps. Still, for me there are also differences between "interesting difficult", "tedious difficult" and "long-series-of-trial-and-error-difficult" that are worth thinking about. Tactics is a good choice for someone who approaches combat like a logical problem and wants to use every possible way inside the game engine to beat it.

    it looks like you have a fair amount of knowledge. Is there something you don't know? Also do you play with BWS and content mods(not Ai mods like scsii/tactics) that expand the BG world?
  • ShinShin Member Posts: 2,344
    Thanks, there is a lot I don't know, often made more evident the more I learn or try to do. In my personal playthroughs I like a certain level of consistency and RP, so I usually avoid large-scale mods that change the game too much (either in difficulty or in spirit). Small expansions or side quests are fine, but big ones like TDD, SoS, CtB etc I have only tried briefly.
  • GotNoUsernameGotNoUsername Member Posts: 49
    Your mages picture is very nice. Where did y get it ?
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    internets

    some are from megaportraitpacks some are from deviantart and even google images i can't find originals anymore because it was few months now
  • AscerionAscerion Member Posts: 271
    @zur312

    I hope you get it working. I've tried Sword Coast Strategems and it is extremely hard. Somehow I triggered the Cleric assassins the same time I was breaking into the Bandit Camp. The call for help feature had me fighting all the enemies at the same time, and they had no qualms about pre-buffing with shields, draw upon holy might, and more.

    I had saved over my main file, with the Clerics incoming, before I attacked, and somehow the call for help got the attention of everyone on the map! It was a bad day. Not even a fireball wand spam with the necklace of missiles and my pre-buffs could stop the onslaught. But I have a lot of respect that you enjoy that kind of difficulty.

    ~Ascerion
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    actually i think it is not that difficult when you have good party with good spells

    bg1 is harder because of lower levels
  • AscerionAscerion Member Posts: 271
    I think I checked the box that allows enemy mages to cast ToB spells. That was a bad idea. Haha.

    I haven't beaten BG:2, so I want it to be vanilla as much as possible, for the first time through. Have you tried solo runs as a source of increased difficulty? I was thinking of trying it soon.
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    edited August 2013
    solo is easier kind of you get so much exp
  • 10thLich10thLich Member Posts: 99
    @zur312
    If you're interested in more mods/install orders and you still want to do it manually, I'd recommend the
    BWP pdf and the BWP fixpack

    Moreover, how difficult were those spellcasting demi-liches for you?

    There's a mod out there which offers the option to fight four of them if it's installed before SCSII.

    10th
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    demiliches were pretty hard i needed protections from many spells

    i am reinstalling everything for the final fight with tactics irenicus
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    i don't know what is going on

    i reinstalled bg2 and mods
    tried with ctrl+y to get to 2nd round and it worked

    now i am trying to kill them normally and 2nd round freezes again

    WTH??!?!?!?!
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    lol i am so stupid i changed the folder names and tried one more time on the old one ... but after that i checked weidu log ...


    the fight is recorded!
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