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So Dual-Classing Imoen?

dracostrikedracostrike Member Posts: 151
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First time playing the game and I don't the differences between specialist wizards and a mage :/ Anyone like to help me out? Also which class would be best for Imoen to dual-class into?

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  • blackchimesblackchimes Member Posts: 323
    Specialist mage - 1 more spell slot per level, cannot cast spells from the opposite school

    Imoen can only dual to a Mage, so...
  • dracostrikedracostrike Member Posts: 151
    Really? O.o I clicked on the specialist wizard one and a list containing Conjurer, Illiusionist, etc appeared...

    What's going on then? :/
  • blackchimesblackchimes Member Posts: 323
    Specialist mages are still "Mage" as far as class system is concerned. They're essentially kits, not different classes as such.

    So when you said "which class would be best for Imoen to dual-class" I assumed you mean Fighter, Cleric, etc. Hence my "only Mage" reply.

    Anyway, if I remember correctly Conjurer is the favourite because the opposite school is Divination, the most "useless" one.
  • HeindrichHeindrich Member, Moderator Posts: 2,959
    edited August 2013
    In addition to my warning about the need to have a thief with 100 in Find Traps. I'd like to add that if u plan on playing BG 2 (and u'd be mad not to), then you'll find that Imoen will have dual-classed into a generalist Mage. This will happen regardless of what u do in BG 1. You can interpret this in two ways:

    1) Cool, that means I don't need to worry about making her a super strong mage for BG 2 (where casters take front-stage in battles), the game makes those changes for me, so I can just use her as an awesome
    thief in BG 1.

    2) Oh, in that case I want to be accurate to 'canon' to the tee. I will start dual-classing Imoen into a Mage when she reaches lv7 in Thief. That way, she will match her stats in BG 2 perfectly. (Imoen starts BG 2 as a Thief/Mage lv7/lv8)
  • amftronamftron Member Posts: 109
    I wish they'd left her as a pure thief.... i've never once felt the need to dual class Immy.
  • HeindrichHeindrich Member, Moderator Posts: 2,959
    @amftron

    Imoen's stats are almost perfectly setup to dual-class into Mage. I don't bother with it in BG 1 cos she's my only thief and I need her for the traps. But a pure thief lacks much of a battlefield presence, so having her as a very potent mage in BG 2 is pretty nice/useful.
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  • Morte50Morte50 Member Posts: 161
    Dual-classing her hardly seems worth it, unless you do it at like level 2 and just play her as a straight mage (with a bow). Otherwise you're going to be playing with a developmentally delayed mage for a while. And since you're probably going to need another thief in the interim taking up an NPC slot, you might as well just keep Imoen as is and take an NPC mage instead.

    If you don't mind a *slight* cheat though, you can always use Shadowkeeper to help her discover her half-elf roots and go multi-class M/T. There is something slightly off about her characteristics though, so it takes some care to do it properly.
  • dracostrikedracostrike Member Posts: 151
    Thanks for all the help guys, sadly I don't think I will play BG2 (don't have it), so Imoen will be fine being dualled at lv6 (already at lv5) and I have Coran to help as another thief.
  • HeindrichHeindrich Member, Moderator Posts: 2,959
    That's like a lot of foreplay without the actual sex... But whatever floats yer boat :p

    Seriously though BG 2 is awesome, and its pretty cheap off GoG. Though I suppose you could wait for BG 2 EE too.
  • dracostrikedracostrike Member Posts: 151
    BG2 costs usually how much?
  • pixie359pixie359 Member Posts: 251
    $9.99 to download BG2 and expansion here - http://www.gog.com/game/baldurs_gate_2_complete
  • HeindrichHeindrich Member, Moderator Posts: 2,959
    They do regular sales for up to 75% off.
  • NeroNero Member Posts: 16
    No urgent need to dual class Imoen with a balanced party. One mage is plenty. I like to roll with a double priest setup if anything.
  • dracostrikedracostrike Member Posts: 151
    I like 2 mages, since I can use spells from any school :)
  • ZanathKariashiZanathKariashi Member Posts: 2,869
    He's playing vanilla BG. You can dual to specialists (assuming you meet the race/stat requirements) in vanilla because they're (correctly) implemented as separate classes, instead of mage-kits (wrong) as in BG2.

    Conjurer is technically the best, especially for BG1, because you don't lose anything of value. In BG2 the loss of true-sight is annoying but can be compensated (Imeon is T/M in BG2, due to the above changes to the way specialists are handled).
  • FrostyFrosty Member Posts: 190
    I hope when bg2:ee comes Imoen's being dual classed and at what level will carry over from BG:EE
  • CaptRoryCaptRory Member Posts: 1,660
    Its annoying but you can Keeper her to whatever she was. But yeah it'd be nice if you had the option of having it do it for you.
  • blackchimesblackchimes Member Posts: 323
    Frosty said:

    I hope when bg2:ee comes Imoen's being dual classed and at what level will carry over from BG:EE

    The Q&A thread states it will not be a feature at release, but it might be added later.
  • CantabCantab Member Posts: 56
    Do what ever you want, as its all about having fun/role playing.

    But IMO she will be more useful and fun purely as a thief in BG1. I love having a good thief, so I can rob everyone blind, but each to there own.

    I take it you are aware of/that

    -a thief's back stab ability
    -becoming a dual class mage will prohibit the use of most weapons
    -She wont be able to use thief ablities until her mage class level reaches her thief level (i think?)
    -Several mages can be picked up very early in BG1


  • dracostrikedracostrike Member Posts: 151
    Actually I've dualled her now and I think she is so awesome ^^ Short sword of backstabbing and kiel's buckler makes her the perfect target with buff spells then stealth kill :D Also Edwin is the more offensive mage in my party.
  • CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
    I hate dual classing Imoen, especially with the Canon party. It takes forever for her to get her thief skills back, especially if dualling at 7, so you either need a second thief for half the game or just trip every trap going.
  • dracostrikedracostrike Member Posts: 151
    Tripping every trap isn't that bad with Kagain ^^ Built like a beast he is :)
  • HeindrichHeindrich Member, Moderator Posts: 2,959
    I think somebody hasn't visited Durlag's Tower yet. ^.^

    By the way, all the Tales of the Sword Coast content is based in Ulgoth's Beard. It's worth a visit at some stage.
  • dracostrikedracostrike Member Posts: 151
    I've heard about it and some items such as Kiel's Buckler. :) By that time I should Imoen's finding traps ability back ^^
  • Time4TiddyTime4Tiddy Member Posts: 262
    If you make some haste through the first few chapters, you can get Coran at a low enough level (3/3) that you have time to pump up his Find Traps effectively for endgame. Personally I prefer Coran to Imoen as "main thief" for his better damage and AC. Then you can dual Imoen whenever you feel like it.
  • BlashBlash Member Posts: 249
    I dualed Imoen at 7 and just got mage level to 8 and regained thief abilities. In the character information page I read "Backstab multiplier: x0". Is that normal? :-O
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    Blash said:

    I dualed Imoen at 7 and just got mage level to 8 and regained thief abilities. In the character information page I read "Backstab multiplier: x0". Is that normal? :-O

    No it should be x3. Are you using any mods? I'm not able to repeat the bug.
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