Are there only 2 Boots of Speed in a playthrough of BG1?

Naish

So I know there's one in the bandit camp, and I found another, but I have NO IDEA where I found it... On an NPC obviously. After I'd kill him... . I'm thinking about starting a playthrough and finding a way to import with 6x boots of speed because, well, the run speed in BG kills me. Any thoughts?

Astafas

There are two pairs of Boots of Speed (thus four boots in all). ;-) The first pair is found on Drasus (before entering Cloakwood Mines), the second on Lothander in Baldur's Gate.

Lord_Tansheron

Drasus, on the Cloakwood Mines map. Not in the mines themselves, but outside in the little encampment.

Aasimar069

Naish said:

So I know there's one in the bandit camp, and I found another, but I have NO IDEA where I found it... On an NPC obviously. After I'd kill him... . I'm thinking about starting a playthrough and finding a way to import with 6x boots of speed because, well, the run speed in BG kills me. Any thoughts?

You can speed up your game through editing baldur.ini since the dev' were too lazy to add these settings in the game option menu, even in a 2013 "enhanced edition" ...

PS : in the original game, it was possible to fix this thanks to BGconfig. We can no longer fix the cache size, pathnodes and such in this version !

Gallowglass

I did find (and bug-report) a glitch a while ago, which made a third pair of the Boots available (although it's clearly an exploit to take advantage of this). After the scene in the diviner's tent, Lothander ought to leave the area, but it seems that sometimes he only goes as far as hiding under the archway between the two parts of the central area of the city, instead of running right off the edge of the map. Therefore, after subsequently meeting him in the Blade & Stars and completing his role in the quest (and getting one pair of Boots from him), you can actually go back to the archway in the central area and find him still standing there(!), so you can collect another pair from him.

However, I'm not sure exactly what conditions trigger this glitch, and anyway perhaps it'll be fixed in the upcoming patch.

@Naish - if it's all too slow for your taste, why not just increase your frame-rate rather than cheating? However, if you insist upon cheating, then you can CLUAconsole as many pairs of the Boots as you like.

ReadingRambo

Having a six person party all with boots of speed would make the game go much faster. It would also trivialize combat, unless you refuse to use ranged weapons. Actually that sounds interesting... 5 halfling fighters and Minsc, all with two handed swords and boots of speed. Swords for everyone!

Awong124

ReadingRambo said:

Having a six person party all with boots of speed would make the game go much faster. It would also trivialize combat hehe

There's enough to do that when you get to ToB.

sarevok57

well by ToB there is only 5, you can only get 6 if you manage to kill renal bloodscalp and survive ( vorpal sword anyone? ) but there is that whacky +6 studded leather that gives haste, but we wanted booties, because that armor is outclassed by white dragon scale

Awong124

If it wasn't for the convenience of cutting down walking times, I'd rather have Boots of Missile Avoidance or Boots of Stealth on my people. I rarely use the Boots of Speed for combat purposes.

Lord_Tansheron

The existence of BoS is in part responsible for the diminished edge of ranged weapons in BG2. Also, I find them useful even mid-combat for re positioning and escaping attention (i.e. "aggro dumping", as enemies prefer characters in melee range). Not a huge selection of alternatives anyway, but I guess there's nothing stopping you from swapping boots in and out as needed even mid-fight.

@sarevok57: Renal is laughably easy to kill and survive Just need a protection from instant death, or from +3 magical weapons.

DarkDogg

Drizzt in the vanilla BG is wearing those boots?

Schneidend

"Only," he says. Bah.

Heindrich

@DarkDogg

No, I killed him with cheese in both BG 1 Vanilla and BG EE. He did not drop boots in either case.

Also... the impatience of some people astound me. BG maps are not particularly huge, it doesn't take THAT long to walk from one side to the other. (You should try Wargame Airland Battles and see how long it takes infantry to move from point A to point B... I know... different genre, but still...)

Boots of Speed does far more than just speed up travel, it also dramatically increases your tactical options. So cheating in multiple versions really is cheating.

Also, as far as I am aware, you cannot bring Boots of Speed from BG 1 to BG 2 without cheating.

MERLANCE

DarkDogg said:

Drizzt in the vanilla BG is wearing those boots?

Drizzt the book character (not the in game Drizzt) wouldn't have boots of speed either way, he had bracers of blinding strike that he wore on his ankles or something. Ended up doing effectively the same thing as the boots though. And he wore one of those invisible undroppable versions of the boots in game anyhow. But if he were to have an item... it shouldn't be boots.

Awong124

Heindrich1988 said:

Also... the impatience of some people astound me. BG maps are not particularly huge, it doesn't take THAT long to walk from one side to the other. (You should try Wargame Airland Battles and see how long it takes infantry to move from point A to point B... I know... different genre, but still...)

It takes long if you want to explore the entire area.

Heindrich

@Awong124

I did do that in BG 1... not so much in BG 2. I never found walking time to be a significant issue, especially in EE and BG 2 where you can monitor your party's progress whilst in map mode. I usually take the time to take a wee break, reflect on what I've done, assess my position. lol

Awong124

@Heindrich There were very few open wilderness areas in BG2. It was mostly either dungeons or towns. So yeah, it's not as big of a deal in BG2.

Gave

I really dislike the healers must touch you with every healing spell. So I usually give my boots of speeds to clerics, druids ..whoever can punch a heal on my champs.

I would have given lvl3+ healing spell a short range instead of touch only. Actually they just have to touch you to trigger the spell, then you can run off and still receive the restored hitpoints.

Heindrich

@Gave

I almost never use healing spells in the midst of a battle. It deprives you of a cleric/druid who could be doing something else proactively useful. Your warriors can always drink potions, which is much quicker anyway. If I have to resort to 'battlefield healing', usually the battle is already lost XD

gholam

Heindrich1988 said:

Also, as far as I am aware, you cannot bring Boots of Speed from BG 1 to BG 2 without cheating.

Depends on your definition of cheating. You can import all the items in your CHARNAME's inventory to BG2 with the "black screen exploit".

Battlehamster

Heindrich1988 said:

@DarkDogg

No, I killed him with cheese in both BG 1 Vanilla and BG EE.

I hate that spell. 6d6 + 1d6/level damage with a web effect? Melf's Melting Mozzarella is waaaaaaay OP.

sarevok57

@Lord_Tansheron protection form anything doesn't work against backstabby guy, the only thing you can do is make your AC amazing against piercing weapons, because he has to hit you to kill you, stone skin doesn't work, protection from any weapon spell doesn't work ( or else he would be pitifully easy) plus that guy has automatic haste,

what I did was use the vorpal sword and made sure my runner had all the best gear with girdle of piercing and full platemail, I got it so he would miss with a 17 I believe, and made sure that guy was closest to him when I was runnin away, to bad buddy buddy who steals all of drizzt's gear isn't avoidable, he will follow you no matter where you go

SamuelVarg

DarkDogg said:

Drizzt in the vanilla BG is wearing those boots?

Heindrich1988 said:

@DarkDogg

No, I killed him with cheese in both BG 1 Vanilla and BG EE. He did not drop boots in either case.

Do you know how to kill Drizzt wih cheese ..?

Mathmick

Gave said:

I really dislike the healers must touch you with every healing spell. So I usually give my boots of speeds to clerics, druids ..whoever can punch a heal on my champs.

I would have given lvl3+ healing spell a short range instead of touch only. Actually they just have to touch you to trigger the spell, then you can run off and still receive the restored hitpoints.

The AI now attempts to cast touch spells on the position the character's destination rather than their location.

This allows you to cast healing spells on people from a distance by commanding them to walk toward the caster, get the cast to start, and then have them continue whatever they are doing.

Lord_Tansheron

sarevok57 said:

@Lord_Tansheron protection form anything doesn't work against backstabby guy, the only thing you can do is make your AC amazing against piercing weapons, because he has to hit you to kill you, stone skin doesn't work, protection from any weapon spell doesn't work ( or else he would be pitifully easy) plus that guy has automatic haste,

what I did was use the vorpal sword and made sure my runner had all the best gear with girdle of piercing and full platemail, I got it so he would miss with a 17 I believe, and made sure that guy was closest to him when I was runnin away, to bad buddy buddy who steals all of drizzt's gear isn't avoidable, he will follow you no matter where you go

Protection from Magical Weapons definitely does work against Arkanis Gath. I did a few days ago without a problem; he couldn't hit me, and thus couldn't instant-kill me either. His weapon is a modified Sword of Backstabbing+3, so anything that protects from a +3 weapon will work (PfMW, Mantle, Improved Mantle, Absolute Immunity). Trying to block him with AC is highly risky and unreliable; he has a THAC0 of 0, so you'd need ungodly amounts of AC and even then he can still hit you with a critical roll or go switch targets unexpectedly and kill them. Note that you don't have to kill Arkanis himself as he won't follow you outside if you're quick. Just off Renal, loot, and get out of there. It's technically possible to kill Arkanis via level- or stat-drain, but he is worth a mere 1500xp and drops no special loot.

As for Malchor Harpell...

You can make your entire party immune to Imprisonment before he shows up. If you then keep on refusing to hand over Drizzt's gear, he'll try to imprison everyone but fail. You can then run away from him, and that will create some fairly funny bugs where he'll keep following you around map after map without doing anything. This can, however, break cutscenes and dialogues so use at your own risk.

elminster

Heindrich1988 said:

DarkDogg said:

Drizzt in the vanilla BG is wearing those boots?

@DarkDogg

No, I killed him with cheese in both BG 1 Vanilla and BG EE. He did not drop boots in either case.

He is wearing the boots but they aren't flagged as being droppable.

DeathKnight

If you need more, you can always export import in multi... If in EE you can still convert multiplayer saves into singleplayer ones and vice versa.