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Dual-Classed NPCs have too few weapon proficiency points

CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
in Original BG2 Bugs
All Dual-Classed NPCs (Imoen, Nalia & Anomen) have fewer weapon proficiencies when encountered than they should at their level. This is possible in player-created dual-classes due to secondary class proficiencies overwriting primary class proficiencies, but occurs in all the named NPCs.

When you first meet Anomen in the Copper Coronet at level 7 Fighter -> 8 Cleric he should have a total of 10 weapon proficiency points allocated. He has 6 points allocated, + in Warhammers, ++ in Maces, ++ in Slings & + in Sword & Shield style.

Imoen should have 6 weapon proficiency points. She has 4 allocated when first encountered, + in Daggers, + in Quarterstaff, + in Shortbows and + in Darts.

Nalia should have 6 weapon proficiency points. She has 4 allocated when first encountered, + in Shortswords, + in Daggers, + in Quarterstaff and + in Shortbows.

I appreciate that this may not necessarily be a bug but a design feature to prevent overpowered NPCs. None of these characters is particularly weak as a result, and this going unfixed would not be a huge drawback. Adding a couple of additional proficiency points to these characters would be much appreciated though.

Comments

  • kamuizinkamuizin Member Posts: 3,704
    They're not perfect and that's why i like them all the more :)!
  • karl_maulderkarl_maulder Member Posts: 133
    edited September 2013
    Not only this, but Imoen has to few points as a thief, she is missing 25 Points(!).
  • sarevok57sarevok57 Member Posts: 6,002
    that's exactly why they have fewer points, because some of them are over lapped and no doubt anomen has some fighter profs that clerics cant use, plus @karl_maulder just give her the ring of lock picks/disarm traps and she had over 100 in both :)
  • sarevok57sarevok57 Member Posts: 6,002
    so I just checked anomen's, imoen's and nalia's profs and they weren't actually given any first class profs, man that is a shaft, also if im not mistaken does jan jansen have the correct amount of profs?
  • CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
    edited September 2013
    The way it's worked out, all their proficiencies are counted as being from the second class. So Imoen's shortbow proficiency is counted as being from the mage class despite this being fairly impossible.

    I read somewhere that Anomen does actually have a specialisation in Spears which he can no longer use. I haven't checked this myself. *Edit* Just checked in my unmodded SoA & ToB install - this is not displayed ingame. Also OMFG I didn't appreciate BG:EE's improved resolution until I went back to vanilla BG2. My eyes hurt.

    Jan has the correct number of proficiencies. He should have 4 (2 from creation as a thief, 1 extra at both 4 and 8) and he does. He has + in shortswords, daggers, quarterstaves and crossbows when first encountered.
  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
    BG2 Fixpack addresses this (and a whole bunch of other NPC errors), and will be incorporated in BGII:EE by default.
  • CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
    @CamDawg thank you for that, great news. Any chance we could get this thread moved to the "fixed" section?
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