CONGRATULATIONS! we have a winner on my early game strategy! hmmmm... now it makes me rethink how a game between us would go. whoever actually won there would screw the other because the plan, unfortunately, relies on wonders
Thx... The thing with playing so much 1v1 MP is that it quickly forces you to find an optimal strategy, especially for the early game. It got pretty ridiculous... u know, where I'd consider buying tiles with forests, so I could cut them down to speed up wonder construction. Once my friend actually almost beat me to the Pyramids AND GL cos he used the workers from the Pyramids to chop down forests enmasse. lol
I wish Civ5 MP was a bit more... user friendly. 1v1v1 would be awesome,
not user friendly? I don't know what the problem is, though I have only ever tried 2 human players.
the reason I tend to go with the hardest difficulty levels is that it forces me to find out the best strategy. though they get unfair starting bonuses, it makes me think of how I can really quickly catch up.
It's like I said before, simultaneous turns in a war can be really unfair on the player whose internet speed is slower, and favors the host I think. I once played with my friend whilst chatting on Skype, and he didn't have his headphone plugged in, and I noticed that I could hear his 'new turn music' about 1 second before I could, so if we fought a battle in simultaneous turns, he'd have a massive advantage.
So for the sake of being fair, it'd have to be alternate turns... but that can be tedious with just 2 players... with 3 I just don't have the patience for it... and I am a relatively patient guy.
I sometimes wonder if all the players not in a war move at the same time as somebody in war. Like 1 war and 1 non war then the other war on the next turn.
also I have played with my brother and his laptop, and I actually cannot move until his turn is over. However it is still a little unfair in that I could get my screen where I need it to click my unit, but that is sometimes possible even as you just exit the processing. We never really war though, I have other means of screwing him over and an army to keep him off my back about war
I bought Brave New World on the cheap thanks to one of the latest Steam sales. I would say by expansion standards its pretty good.
It allowed me to finally play the game to the end so I think I got my money's worth. Makes the end game much more interesting, which was very needed. Won culturally and diplomatically
I loved Civ V until Gandhi attacked me...that experience was wrong on so many levels.
It's not a proper civilization game until you've been nuked by Gandhi.
lol Gandhi and Dido are the two I trust with my life. Of course Gandhi is also a majorly unpowered civ so they don't make a very good ally, at least in the hands of the AI
Gandhi was surprisingly aggressive in G&K... probably cos he goes all religious extremist on ur ass. In BNW however I've found him to be a reliable ally and trade partner, assuming he doesn't get stomped by the Huns/Zulus, who always go on a rampage and become superpowers unless you do something about it.
Gandhi was surprisingly aggressive in G&K... probably cos he goes all religious extremist on ur ass. In BNW however I've found him to be a reliable ally and trade partner, assuming he doesn't get stomped by the Huns/Zulus, who always go on a rampage and become superpowers unless you do something about it.
hmmmm... never had a problem with gandhi, unless I was a warmongerer. he did get very religious though. the huns in my game, however, were a complete push over. normally they would fight harder, but they were easily defeated 3 times, first time only due to good strategy in a trireme battle with one coast block though
Gandhi was surprisingly aggressive in G&K... probably cos he goes all religious extremist on ur ass. In BNW however I've found him to be a reliable ally and trade partner, assuming he doesn't get stomped by the Huns/Zulus, who always go on a rampage and become superpowers unless you do something about it.
hmmmm... never had a problem with gandhi, unless I was a warmongerer. he did get very religious though. the huns in my game, however, were a complete push over. normally they would fight harder, but they were easily defeated 3 times, first time only due to good strategy in a trireme battle with one coast block though
I've played 2 rather epic games single player. In the one where I used the real world map, the Zulus conquered all of Africa and wiped out all the civs south of the Mediterranean. They had just made a beachhead in Spain and invading Arabia when I stopped cos the game turns were taking too long. (Also I was in China and had little incentive or ability to thwart the Zulu expansion).
In the game I completed on a random map, the world had 2 major continents and 1 smaller one in the middle. The Huns were on one of the big continents, and they wiped out England and Japan before I even knew they existed. (I found out hundreds/thousands of years later when my scouts came upon Hun cities with weird names like London and Tokyo. lol) They also crippled India and left so many ruined cities that the continent was always half-barren and plagued by barbarians.
Gandhi was surprisingly aggressive in G&K... probably cos he goes all religious extremist on ur ass. In BNW however I've found him to be a reliable ally and trade partner, assuming he doesn't get stomped by the Huns/Zulus, who always go on a rampage and become superpowers unless you do something about it.
I noticed in general that the AI seemed much more aggressive in G&K, which appears to have been dialed back in BNW. You still get warmongers like Shaka and Attila, but the AI in general seems more willing to pursue peace, probably because war has a higher cost in the BNW environment due to lost trade income and tighter happiness in the early game.
In G&K on the other hand, it was easy to build up a comfortable surplus of happiness and gold from terrain early in the game, which really incentivized early rushes. Blitzing the nearest rival capital is no longer quite the solid strategy it was.
Gandhi was surprisingly aggressive in G&K... probably cos he goes all religious extremist on ur ass. In BNW however I've found him to be a reliable ally and trade partner, assuming he doesn't get stomped by the Huns/Zulus, who always go on a rampage and become superpowers unless you do something about it.
hmmmm... never had a problem with gandhi, unless I was a warmongerer. he did get very religious though. the huns in my game, however, were a complete push over. normally they would fight harder, but they were easily defeated 3 times, first time only due to good strategy in a trireme battle with one coast block though
I've played 2 rather epic games single player. In the one where I used the real world map, the Zulus conquered all of Africa and wiped out all the civs south of the Mediterranean. They had just made a beachhead in Spain and invading Arabia when I stopped cos the game turns were taking too long. (Also I was in China and had little incentive or ability to thwart the Zulu expansion).
In the game I completed on a random map, the world had 2 major continents and 1 smaller one in the middle. The Huns were on one of the big continents, and they wiped out England and Japan before I even knew they existed. (I found out hundreds/thousands of years later when my scouts came upon Hun cities with weird names like London and Tokyo. lol) They also crippled India and left so many ruined cities that the continent was always half-barren and plagued by barbarians.
i don't think i would have ever finished the game on a laptop to be honest. the turns take much too long. on my destop, it took about 1-3 minutes for the turns by the end, also there is then factors like watching the plane animations. by the end i turned on quick combat
lol i guess the huns are not so mighty when they are alone on a continent? they had there own island on my game, as I also had my own. we knew each very early, and were actually seperated from the huge continent that had every other player in the game. he was the only one I fought throughout the game as well, but his navy was nothing for me
Gandhi was surprisingly aggressive in G&K... probably cos he goes all religious extremist on ur ass. In BNW however I've found him to be a reliable ally and trade partner, assuming he doesn't get stomped by the Huns/Zulus, who always go on a rampage and become superpowers unless you do something about it.
hmmmm... never had a problem with gandhi, unless I was a warmongerer. he did get very religious though. the huns in my game, however, were a complete push over. normally they would fight harder, but they were easily defeated 3 times, first time only due to good strategy in a trireme battle with one coast block though
I've played 2 rather epic games single player. In the one where I used the real world map, the Zulus conquered all of Africa and wiped out all the civs south of the Mediterranean. They had just made a beachhead in Spain and invading Arabia when I stopped cos the game turns were taking too long. (Also I was in China and had little incentive or ability to thwart the Zulu expansion).
In the game I completed on a random map, the world had 2 major continents and 1 smaller one in the middle. The Huns were on one of the big continents, and they wiped out England and Japan before I even knew they existed. (I found out hundreds/thousands of years later when my scouts came upon Hun cities with weird names like London and Tokyo. lol) They also crippled India and left so many ruined cities that the continent was always half-barren and plagued by barbarians.
Those Zulus man. In my current game they are huge. I'm just a little tiny empire focussed on a science victory but they are this big colossal force. There are only three civilisations left because of them. I'm just glad that technologically I'm far enough ahead of them for them to not want to fight me (plus the only time they declared war on me I managed to take their third largest city).
@ChildofBhaal599 Oh I actually played the game in Strategic map mode, where everything is just represented by icons. It really speeds up the game and also makes everything clearer. I occasionally switched to normal view to appreciate the grandeur and beauty of my empire, but I really like how the strategic map looks in Civ5.
Oh and in the game I finished, it just occurred to me that there should've been 5 civs on each of the 2 large continents, so there actually was a 3rd victim of the Huns who I didn't even know about, cos presumably the Huns burnt all their cities. lol
I was also on a large continent, and I dominated (as in fought a war against each of them in turn, but not wiped out) the other 4 civs (Rome, Mongols, Russia and Aztecs) on my continent. Persia and Egypt started on the smaller continent, and the Persians eventually established a colony on mine. Because I was going for Cultural/Diplomatic victory, I actually maintained decent relations with my neighbours except the brief periods of war, usually initiated by the AI.
Anyways towards the endgame, I decided to go all 'American foreign policy' on the Huns, and established a global alliance and economic embargo against them. Eventually, in response to repeated Hun threats on my city-state allies, and a possible invasion that'd wipe out India, my ally, I launched the most epic invasion I've ever seen in Civ 5, with 6 carriers packed with bombers, support fleet of battleships and submarines, and a landing force of some 20 units of tanks, infantry and artillery. The battle was surprisingly difficult cos the Huns actually had a large airforce I didn't know about, and I didn't have any AA guns or fighters. Also our militaries were on par at the beginning of the war, and whereas a lot of my military strength was naval, the Huns had a massive ground army that just kept coming and coming even as my carrier-borne bombers and artillery wiped out wave after wave. Anyways I took a coastal city as a beachhead, and used it to capture Atilla's Court nearby before forcing the Huns to the negotiating table. A few years later, I launched another amphibious assault to capture Tokyo to liberate Japan and London to liberate England. It was funny to see England was still in the classical era with spearmen as my tanks rolled out of a newly liberated London. lol
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the reason I tend to go with the hardest difficulty levels is that it forces me to find out the best strategy. though they get unfair starting bonuses, it makes me think of how I can really quickly catch up.
It's like I said before, simultaneous turns in a war can be really unfair on the player whose internet speed is slower, and favors the host I think. I once played with my friend whilst chatting on Skype, and he didn't have his headphone plugged in, and I noticed that I could hear his 'new turn music' about 1 second before I could, so if we fought a battle in simultaneous turns, he'd have a massive advantage.
So for the sake of being fair, it'd have to be alternate turns... but that can be tedious with just 2 players... with 3 I just don't have the patience for it... and I am a relatively patient guy.
also I have played with my brother and his laptop, and I actually cannot move until his turn is over. However it is still a little unfair in that I could get my screen where I need it to click my unit, but that is sometimes possible even as you just exit the processing. We never really war though, I have other means of screwing him over and an army to keep him off my back about war
In the game I completed on a random map, the world had 2 major continents and 1 smaller one in the middle. The Huns were on one of the big continents, and they wiped out England and Japan before I even knew they existed. (I found out hundreds/thousands of years later when my scouts came upon Hun cities with weird names like London and Tokyo. lol) They also crippled India and left so many ruined cities that the continent was always half-barren and plagued by barbarians.
In G&K on the other hand, it was easy to build up a comfortable surplus of happiness and gold from terrain early in the game, which really incentivized early rushes. Blitzing the nearest rival capital is no longer quite the solid strategy it was.
lol i guess the huns are not so mighty when they are alone on a continent? they had there own island on my game, as I also had my own. we knew each very early, and were actually seperated from the huge continent that had every other player in the game. he was the only one I fought throughout the game as well, but his navy was nothing for me
Oh I actually played the game in Strategic map mode, where everything is just represented by icons. It really speeds up the game and also makes everything clearer. I occasionally switched to normal view to appreciate the grandeur and beauty of my empire, but I really like how the strategic map looks in Civ5.
Oh and in the game I finished, it just occurred to me that there should've been 5 civs on each of the 2 large continents, so there actually was a 3rd victim of the Huns who I didn't even know about, cos presumably the Huns burnt all their cities. lol
I was also on a large continent, and I dominated (as in fought a war against each of them in turn, but not wiped out) the other 4 civs (Rome, Mongols, Russia and Aztecs) on my continent. Persia and Egypt started on the smaller continent, and the Persians eventually established a colony on mine. Because I was going for Cultural/Diplomatic victory, I actually maintained decent relations with my neighbours except the brief periods of war, usually initiated by the AI.
Anyways towards the endgame, I decided to go all 'American foreign policy' on the Huns, and established a global alliance and economic embargo against them. Eventually, in response to repeated Hun threats on my city-state allies, and a possible invasion that'd wipe out India, my ally, I launched the most epic invasion I've ever seen in Civ 5, with 6 carriers packed with bombers, support fleet of battleships and submarines, and a landing force of some 20 units of tanks, infantry and artillery. The battle was surprisingly difficult cos the Huns actually had a large airforce I didn't know about, and I didn't have any AA guns or fighters. Also our militaries were on par at the beginning of the war, and whereas a lot of my military strength was naval, the Huns had a massive ground army that just kept coming and coming even as my carrier-borne bombers and artillery wiped out wave after wave. Anyways I took a coastal city as a beachhead, and used it to capture Atilla's Court nearby before forcing the Huns to the negotiating table. A few years later, I launched another amphibious assault to capture Tokyo to liberate Japan and London to liberate England. It was funny to see England was still in the classical era with spearmen as my tanks rolled out of a newly liberated London. lol