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shadow dancer advise needed...

qwert_44643qwert_44643 Member Posts: 311
in The Road to v1.2
whats the best way to hide in plain sight?
im level 3 or 4 and totally forgot bout hide in plain sight...is there a button you hit or am i missing it?

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  • dibdib Member Posts: 384
    It's the hide button... Although you might need a somewhat high stealth skill to be able to hide while in LOS of an enemy.
  • qwert_44643qwert_44643 Member Posts: 311
    my hide in shadows and move silently is 55 currently.
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    PROTIP: Move Silently and Hide in Shadows are used in concert to determine success when you're first hiding in shadows (or in plain sight if you're a shadowdancer); For all subsequent checks, only Move Silently is used to maintain it.
  • magpiemagpie Member Posts: 79
    Wow. I never knew that. How could I not know that?!
  • ThunderThunder Member Posts: 157
    magpie said:

    Wow. I never knew that. How could I not know that?!

    How? Probably because it doesn't make much sense. :)

  • qwert_44643qwert_44643 Member Posts: 311
    man its tricky to hide in plain sight....theres a cool down before you can use after coming out of stealth mode.
  • DancingBugbearDancingBugbear Member Posts: 118
    qwert_44643 said:

    man its tricky to hide in plain sight....theres a cool down before you can use after coming out of stealth mode.

    It's after selecting stealth mode, not coming out of it.

  • qwert_44643qwert_44643 Member Posts: 311
    huh..i thought you had to hide in shadows and then backstab and then hide in plain sight...can someone explain to me how to do it correctly?
  • OperativeNLOperativeNL Member Posts: 146
    Dee said:

    PROTIP: Move Silently and Hide in Shadows are used in concert to determine success when you're first hiding in shadows (or in plain sight if you're a shadowdancer); For all subsequent checks, only Move Silently is used to maintain it.

    Are the HiS and MS skills used on a 50/50 basis when hiding in shadows for the first time or does one or the other weigh more heavily?

  • enneractenneract Member Posts: 187
    Dee said:

    PROTIP: Move Silently and Hide in Shadows are used in concert to determine success when you're first hiding in shadows (or in plain sight if you're a shadowdancer); For all subsequent checks, only Move Silently is used to maintain it.

    Are you absolutely sure about this? This is contrary to the prevailing wisdom, at least that garnered from previous incarnations of the games (BG2, specifically). If it would be possible for you to verify that this is actually how that code works, that would be really neat.

  • cmk24cmk24 Member Posts: 605
    qwert_44643 said:

    huh..i thought you had to hide in shadows and then backstab and then hide in plain sight...can someone explain to me how to do it correctly?

    As of the beta you can't do this any more, since chaining backstabs made the class over powered. Now there is a cool down timer when you come out of of the shadows (or after a backstab), so you have to wait before you can hide again. If you have a high amount of Move Silently and Hide in Shadows then you will be able to re-enter stealth, as soon as the cool down is over, by hitting the hide in shadows button. My level 5 shadowdancer currently has Hide in Shadows ~100 and my Move Silently ~90, and can hide almost any time she wants (as long as she is not in direct sunlight).
  • ThunderThunder Member Posts: 157
    Would be nice to see hide in shadows and move silently rolled into a single skill. Right now the points you spend on it are effectively halved, which isn't nice.
  • enneractenneract Member Posts: 187
    Dee said:

    enneract said:

    Dee said:

    PROTIP: Move Silently and Hide in Shadows are used in concert to determine success when you're first hiding in shadows (or in plain sight if you're a shadowdancer); For all subsequent checks, only Move Silently is used to maintain it.

    Are you absolutely sure about this? This is contrary to the prevailing wisdom, at least that garnered from previous incarnations of the games (BG2, specifically). If it would be possible for you to verify that this is actually how that code works, that would be really neat.

    Hm. I thought that was how it worked, but we just looked at the code and it looks like the game just averages the two scores together every time.

    So...yeah.

    Thanks for verifying that. That result is what had been determined by experimentation with BG2, so it is good to have confirmation.
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