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Skald builds/stats/recommendations

Greetings fellow adventurers,
Since I am planing on starting a 5 man co-op game with my friends after the patch comes out, I was thinking of playing a Viking like character, so under the bard class I found the Skald sub-class so I was wondering if it is a good class to play if any one has any experience with it, as for what his role would be, I was thinking of making him an off tank, with a longsword/bastard sword something fitting to my Viking theme, since I imagine them to be more hardy and in the thick of battle, any Item and stat builds would be grateful.
Thanks for reading and as ever go for the eyes!

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  • KilivitzKilivitz Member Posts: 1,459
    edited October 2013
    The Skald's a bit better than the vanilla Bard in combat, but not by much. You're right that he's supposed to be a less roguish Bard of sorts (his Pick Pocket skill takes a severe hit in progression), and I've successfully completed BG2 twice using one.

    However, instead of the Longsword, I went to Two-Handed Swords since Bards are good with two-handed ranged weapons, such as the Longbow and the Crossbow. At high levels they get access to Use Any Item, which I took advantage of to make him run around wielding Carsomyr (the Holy Avenger, a +5 Two-Handed Sword that normally can only be wielded by Paladins).

    Combining that with Elven Chain Mail and a high STR score (which you can get with giving him an 18 right out of the bat - it's easy to roll high stats with a Bard, or by using strength-enhancement items), he was a solid backup frontliner who could hold himself surprisingly well.

    Sure he was still outshone by actual warriors, but combine that moderate melee power with a nice arsenal of Mage spells and the ability to identify practically any item once he's past Level 15 or so, and you've got a solid leader for your group.

    Edit: of course, most of this advice is assuming you're taking him/her to BG2, but in BG1, he/she will do fine as well. Just make sure he/she has a CON of 15 or 16 and cast Find Familiar as soon as you can (for the extra HPs). Keep him/her away from the frontlines at the first few levels, preferably as a ranged fighter, or singing.
  • SnoopyMDSnoopyMD Member Posts: 23
    Thank you kindly for the tips I will take both in to consideration. I will update with screens and my rolls etc.
  • SnoopyMDSnoopyMD Member Posts: 23
    I think these are decent enough stats.
  • Looks good to me, I like the custom portrait.
  • SnoopyMDSnoopyMD Member Posts: 23
    Kaigen said:

    Looks good to me, I like the custom portrait.

    Thanks got lucky on a 92 roll :P and yea I got that portrait from the custom portrait pack on moddb.com
    I think I shall actually try drawing my own portrait next time, should be fun to do :)
  • Cowled_wizardCowled_wizard Member Posts: 119
    the problem is , singing and attacking... = pain in the ass... what you need is a mislead image lvl 6 spell, to sing for you.
  • SnoopyMDSnoopyMD Member Posts: 23

    the problem is , singing and attacking... = pain in the ass... what you need is a mislead image lvl 6 spell, to sing for you.

    Yea I noticed its a bit of a micro managing nightmare toggling attacking and singing and prioritising one over the other at the right time.
    As for the mislead spell, if I understood you correctly, you can use it to sing and attack at the same time?
  • Cowled_wizardCowled_wizard Member Posts: 119
    mislead cant do anything (cast or attack)... or so it would seem like, but in fact, you can click on the bard song on it... that way, your bard can do stuff while the mislead gives all the team the bard song bonus. Careful with true sight... you can also use vhailors helm for a simulacrum of the bard (true sight wont kill it)
  • SnoopyMDSnoopyMD Member Posts: 23
    Ah interesting I will keep that in mind thank you :)
  • SnoopyMDSnoopyMD Member Posts: 23
    Alrighty so far I haven't gotten that far in to the main game, just got to Nashkel mine, so I was thinking what would be a good party set up with npcs for a skald? At the moment I have Neera, Minsc (wiht Boo of course), Imoen (she is a good thief but god I hate her annoying character xD), Khalid and Jaheira.
  • nanonano Member Posts: 1,632
    Anyone who relies on their weapon: fighter-types, archers etc.

    Minsc is especially good because Boo also benefits from the bard song ;)
  • SnoopyMDSnoopyMD Member Posts: 23
    Good point Boo will be extra effective when going for the eyes! Thank you for the advice :)
  • WanderonWanderon Member Posts: 1,418
    I always saw Minsc as being more political as he was always telling Boo go for the Ayes Boo go for the Ayes!

    Nay?
  • MichelleMichelle Member Posts: 550
    Skald makes for a good tank in many ways. The standard Blur, Mirror Image and Stone Skins is good in a fight. He/she can tank all physical damage and sing at the same time using Cloak of Sewers rat form and Defender of Easthaven in off hand. The mustard jelly form from Polymorph Self is immune to magic(CoS jelly form is not for some reason), and can sing from jelly form.

    For giggles you can do the rat form thing with Fireshield Red and or Blue, and watch your enemies pound themselves into the ground.
  • nanonano Member Posts: 1,632
    @_Nightfall_ Hm, you keep your weapon bonuses when polymorphed? Or only offhand?

    Also the singing jelly is a hilarious image.
  • MichelleMichelle Member Posts: 550
    nano said:

    @_Nightfall_ Hm, you keep your weapon bonuses when polymorphed? Or only offhand?

    Only the off hand.

    Also the singing jelly is a hilarious image.

    Years ago I started a 5 character, no repeated classes poverty run. Got busy in my career so never finished but.....
    Skald is a no brainer for this. I took many ss of the singing jelly. They are probably still on the web somewhere. Singing jelly in the Planar Sphere, singing jelly in Watchers Keep, singing jelly against Irenicus. The Skald made the whole play through worth it. :-) I swear Irenicus stood on his stump, and flipped the jelly the rude finger, before being sucked into hell!

  • nanonano Member Posts: 1,632
    Welp, I'm sold on this class. Singing invincible jellies for everyone!
  • MichelleMichelle Member Posts: 550
    LOL Hamsters and jellies everywhere! Rejoice!

    Remember though, smack a jelly with an ax, and he dies quick enough. But for mage battles they rule!
  • BaldursCatBaldursCat Member Posts: 432
    edited November 2013
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    I have to say, my current Skald comes nowhere near any of those stats, her only really good points are in Char & Int, both at 18 and her constitution sucks on account of getting her familiar killed, twice, but I'm having loads of fun with her. I specialised her in longbows, longswords and dual wielding and she tends to switch between ranged and close in with some great casting ability (and identification skills). On top of the Melodic Chain you can obtain in BGIII I add in armour and stoneskins if I need her to get into a fight - which I do quite a bit as aside from Carsomyr the best of the swords are longswords - She comes nowhere near Keldorn's tanking stats (mind you nor do any of the other NPCs) and I'm sure I'm not playing her to her optimum but I'm still having fun.

    EDIT: I'm not certain (for BGII, at least) that being able to scribe unlimited spells with 16 int is correct as I've received a few messages saying I've reached the limit for me level but you can still scribe enough to be of use to you and you can ditch the stuff you don't need.
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  • MichelleMichelle Member Posts: 550
    Potion of Genius & Potion of Mind Focusing can raise your int enough to scribe all spells per level if you want, but as you noted, not necessary.

    Is Keldorn using the Gauntlets of Dexterity? If not they would help your Merin a lot.

    Best non Holy Avenger sword in SoA is probably Celestial Fury, and Dakkon's Zerth Blade would help too so maybe a pip in katanas wouldn't hurt.

    Anyway, just some random thoughts. Glad you are having fun. :-)
  • BaldursCatBaldursCat Member Posts: 432
    Thanks for the tips, I'm loving some so these suggestions. Out of interest, what are the mechanics for singing & scrapping at the same time? I didn't realise you could do that?
  • SnoopyMDSnoopyMD Member Posts: 23

    Thanks for the tips, I'm loving some so these suggestions. Out of interest, what are the mechanics for singing & scrapping at the same time? I didn't realise you could do that?

    From what I understood there are certain spells enable you to do so, mislead is one of them, as mentioned above.
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