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Should we focus on posting only BG1-related content (feature requests/bugs)?

nulspacenulspace Member Posts: 100
edited June 2012 in Archive (General Discussion)
I just want to clarify the scope of the forum; I'm assuming it's BG1-related content only, but I've seen a few posts that are requesting high-level equipment/changes that wouldn't jive (IMHO) with BG1.

That, and I don't want to clutter the feature request/bug categories with BG2 stuff if it's going to have its own special place someday anyway ;)

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  • TanthalasTanthalas Member Posts: 6,738
    edited June 2012
    Well, there's going to be a BG2EE after BGEE, which is why people mention stuff like that.

    But Overhaul is currently working only on BGEE so perhaps talking about BG1 stuff is more helpful to them at this moment.
  • kamuizinkamuizin Member Posts: 3,704
    In my opinion we should speak about the BG2 content too cos, BG1 in fact is near done and will be launched in this summer, and the BG2 EE is already being made no?
  • nulspacenulspace Member Posts: 100
    @Tanthalas - my thoughts exactly. Thanks for the confirmation.
  • nulspacenulspace Member Posts: 100
    @kamuizin - I guess that would be a question for the mods - the nav-bar on the left looks like it's set up to expand and include a "Baldur's Gate 2: Enhanced Edition" Category. I figure that if that's going to be the case, I don't want to introduce redundancy to the forum.
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    And in case it wasn't clear already, the Feature Requests forum is filled with more than a hundred requests for new or altered features in BG1 - all of them created in less than two weeks.

    Now imagine the nightmare of sifting through two, three, or six months of requests once BG1:EE is released. ;)

    There will eventually be a place for BG2:EE requests, but for now I think the forum's layout is sufficient.
  • AndreaColomboAndreaColombo Member Posts: 5,533
    I believe this forum was meant for BG:EE only. I have a fairly long list of desiderata for BG2:EE but I'll refrain from posting them until the devs state they're actually working on it and taking requests.
  • nulspacenulspace Member Posts: 100
    @AndreaColombo - same here! Itchin' to throw out some BG2 suggestions.
  • PhillipDaiglePhillipDaigle Member Posts: 654
    Technically we are working on both games at once.
  • AliteriAliteri Member Posts: 308
    Somethings might require forethought by the developers, to set flags in BGEE that are accessed in BG2EE or something like that. But the majority of the feature requests, rules change and such affect both games.
  • TanthalasTanthalas Member Posts: 6,738
    @PhillipDaigle

    So do you want to open the floodgates of BG2 requests or not?
  • CorianderCoriander Member Posts: 1,667
    Bugs in BGII/ToB that aren't quest/content specific are good because we're using that code.

    I personally don't mind reading discussions about things outside the scope of BGEE. There's bound to be some controversial requests and it would be nice to know before we get to BG2EE. That said, this is supposed to be focused on the BG/TotSC so use your best judgement.
  • nulspacenulspace Member Posts: 100
    @PhillipDaigle - are there plans to create a "Baldur's Gate 2: Enhanced Edition" portion of the forum for consitency/organizational purposes?
  • PhillipDaiglePhillipDaigle Member Posts: 654
    We'll see how the forums go once we open them - if it becomes difficult to manage we'll divvy things up.
  • PhillipDaiglePhillipDaigle Member Posts: 654
    @PhillipDaigle

    So do you want to open the floodgates of BG2 requests or not?
    You can feel free to make BG2EE suggestions/requests.
  • AndreaColomboAndreaColombo Member Posts: 5,533
    Oh my. We're about to open Pandora's Box :D I must take my leave in a few minutes but tomorrow I'll be posting my BG2:EE requests (unless, of course, someone else asks the same before I do: in that case, I'll just "agree". Or seek them out and revenge my stolen right to post them first. I'll have to think about it).
  • nulspacenulspace Member Posts: 100
    If this is going to be the case, then I suggest labelling bugfixes/feature requests with [BG1 Bugfix] / [BG2 Bugfix] or [BG1 Request] / [BG2 Request] for clarity.
  • lordkimlordkim Member Posts: 1,063
    Cant we make just one BG EE 2 Post ?

    So we aint gonna flood the forum suddenly with stuff to both games ? Or ask the Mods to make a seperate sub-forum.
    Im still learning this vanilla stuff :P
  • AndreaColomboAndreaColombo Member Posts: 5,533
    I vote for a separate subforum. It would definitely help to keep things clean and orderly.
  • TanthalasTanthalas Member Posts: 6,738
    I only have one (big?) request. Allow us to make some kind of mega-installation that combines both games.
  • AntonAnton Member, Moderator, Mobile Tester Posts: 513
    I vote for a separate subforum. It would definitely help to keep things clean and orderly.
    There is a point in separate forums if you request only additional content.
    Base (engine, rases, classes, spells) are shared anyway.
  • nulspacenulspace Member Posts: 100
    @Anton - For bugfixes sharing the same forum would be effective because of that reason, but I have feature requests in mind that would only affect BG2 (for example, suggestions involving the divergent story paths, strongholds, the Underdark).
  • AndreaColomboAndreaColombo Member Posts: 5,533
    @Anton - I thought of that when I realized most of my desiderata are actually engine-related requests that would affect BG:EE and BG2:EE simultaneously, since they're using the same engine. However, I have a couple BG2:EE only requests that would fit a separate forum.
  • gesellegeselle Member Posts: 325
    Non-official mods expanding banters (like Gaider's Ascension mod), or direct support for modders. Some additional encounters, or adding small subquests, would be sweet, too. Another joinable npc would be too much work, I assume.
    Actually we should keep Pandora's box closed in this thread. But thats my humble opinion
  • trinittrinit Member Posts: 705
    ugh... now you did it, and i was trying so hard to restrain myself. :/
    i think bg2ee requests will be more roleplaying and graphic enhancing? i really hope most of the gameplay issues will be solved/integrated first time around in bgee, thus freeing more resources to work on more complex mechanic in bg2ee.
    in any case, i present to you a wishlist for bg2ee, some of the requests fitting to bgee, some of the bg2 specific.

    -revised HLA abilities personalized to fit every KIT (not just class)
    -added encounters and banters if possible
    -better division of divine and arcane spells and adding a few new ones ( by this i mean specialists and cleric of /some god/ get some spell or are barred from some on the basis of their specialization)
    -revised hell's trials to include neutral option
    -added male romance that was cut out from original game (and adding bisexual romance option- see "new romanceable male" thread in feature discussion)
    -expanded roleplay options in TOB (ascension mod for example, etc)
    -larger portraits + more portraits in bg2 style (adding more portraits to major npc)
    -new music (used in cinematic fashion)
    -expanded/improved spell and character animation
    -new voicesets
    -new xx xy bg2 adventure (i hope one of them could be integrated to TOB, thus expanding on that portion somewhat)

    i will only post this here as a comment, i think it makes no sense to start clogging "feature requests" until the official subcategory for bg2 is established. but it is good to have this discussion at least...
  • BhryaenBhryaen Member Posts: 2,874
    I'd already suggested a BG2 section in anticipation of forum clutter days ago in my Forum Raves and Suggestions, but noooooo... :-P
  • AndreaColomboAndreaColombo Member Posts: 5,533
    Nemo profeta in patria, @Bhryaen...
  • nulspacenulspace Member Posts: 100
    Something else that occured to me is that there is definitely a need for forum moderators here :P Lots of features being posted as bugs, lots of clutter, nothing being done in regards to posting bugs to the "Fixed" section...
  • ZakerosZakeros Member Posts: 75
    Maybe let's start using prefixes for BG1 and BG2? Before the thread topic we could put "[BG1]" or "[BG2]", at least till' the time there's a subforum created.
  • trinittrinit Member Posts: 705
    blah. i feel a bit like an idiot posting all the requests. i everyone did that forum would become violent mess in a matter of seconds.
    if developers read this they should heed @bhryaen's words here immediately :P
    i agree we could and should start posting ideas for bg2 also (if engine will be formulated mostly now for both games) and as soon as bg2 section arrives. no sooner :/
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