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some ascension and SCS questions

ChildofBhaal599ChildofBhaal599 Member Posts: 1,781
in General Modding
I was wondering a few things before BG2EE launch

ascension: Is it really ready for the launch? If it is not, would I be able to play up until the end of SOA then install it before I enter Throne of Bhaal?

SCS: In what way will it make the game more challenging, providing the enemy with cheese, making there AI even better than what BG2EE supposedly already did to make it better? If it isn't suited for me, is it easy to uninstall and keep playing without it and not cause problems?

thank you anybody who can provide insight

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  • CuvCuv Member, Developer Posts: 2,535
    Ascension only affects the ToB portion of the game.... so just play :) I am working on the compatible version on my own, but its not ready yet.
  • DexterDexter Member Posts: 253
    ChildofBhaal599 said:

    SCS: In what way will it make the game more challenging, providing the enemy with cheese, making there AI even better than what BG2EE supposedly already did to make it better?

    No cheese, just brains.
    ChildofBhaal599 said:

    If it isn't suited for me, is it easy to uninstall and keep playing without it and not cause problems?

    Yes, but you won't. SCS is the best AI mod.

  • ChildofBhaal599ChildofBhaal599 Member Posts: 1,781
    thank you both, take my insightfuls :) oh and good luck @Cuv. I will make sure to take my time in SOA so ascension is ready for my TOB. I am ready to accept the challenge again with my newfound experience and I will hopefully beat the final battle this time :)
  • mackosmackos Member Posts: 188
    Your can just look at SCS readme. But be warned! it will bind this mod to your BG forever. Irresistible AI modification
  • ComplyOrDieComplyOrDie Member Posts: 41
    The only downside is you will need to reinstall SCS after AScension comes out. Any vague ETA by the way? :)
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    @Cuv said in another thread that he'd try to have something by the end of the week :)
  • TvrtkoSvrdlarTvrtkoSvrdlar Member Posts: 353
    edited November 2013
    Cuv said:

    Ascension only affects the ToB portion of the game.... so just play :) I am working on the compatible version on my own, but its not ready yet.

    Awesome!

    And Cuv, we really appreciate what you're doing, but could you give us just a rough estimate as to when you expect it to be finished? A week? Two? A month? I know you're probably very busy IRL, and I'm not trying to rush you or anything, but a rough ETA would be helpful, if only to understand how long we'll need to stretch out our SoA playthrough before hitting ToB.

    Also, thanks for all the hard work, Ascension is one of the best mods out there, and definitely deserves a spot in BG2EE! :)
  • ComplyOrDieComplyOrDie Member Posts: 41
    Good man and thank you. Appreciate it.
  • OlleDenStoreOlleDenStore Member Posts: 43
    @Cuv Are there any compatibility problems with other mods or will it install just fine even after a few other mods like SCS and bg2 tweaks are installed?
  • CuvCuv Member, Developer Posts: 2,535
    edited November 2013
    you don't need the bg2 fixpack. its in here (which you didn't ask about but I answered anyway). as for SCS, I am not sure, think its been updated @DavidW?

    edited to change misinformation!
  • CuvCuv Member, Developer Posts: 2,535
    oh! Ooops... hehe. Don't ask me anything
  • OlleDenStoreOlleDenStore Member Posts: 43
    Thanks a lot for the quick replies! I think I was a little unclear in my question. What I was asking was if ascension will install without problems if you install it after the bg2:ee versions of scs and bg2 tweaks or if it needs to be installed first.
  • DavidWDavidW Member Posts: 823
    A rough install order is: quests, then NPCs, then tweaks. So SCS should go very late in the install order, and Ascension should go early.
  • LiamEslerLiamEsler Member Posts: 1,859
    edited November 2013
    If you check the Mod Compatibility thread, the mods are listed in recommended install order. :)
  • DavidWDavidW Member Posts: 823
    LiamEsler said:

    If you check the Mod Compatibility thread, the mods are listed in recommended install order. :)

    I hadn't caught that. If so, can you swap Rogue Rebalancing and SCS? - both I and avenger_RR think RR needs to go before SCS. (http://www.shsforums.net/topic/27171-comprehensive-compatibility-guide-and-recommended-install-order/)
  • StoneSwordsStoneSwords Member Posts: 180
    edited November 2013
    DavidW said:

    LiamEsler said:

    If you check the Mod Compatibility thread, the mods are listed in recommended install order. :)

    I hadn't caught that. If so, can you swap Rogue Rebalancing and SCS? - both I and avenger_RR think RR needs to go before SCS. (http://www.shsforums.net/topic/27171-comprehensive-compatibility-guide-and-recommended-install-order/)
    @DavidW What's the difference just out of curiosity? Does something get overwritten if RR goes after SCS? Because the RR readme specifically mentions that it should go after SCS if I remember correctly.
  • DavidWDavidW Member Posts: 823
    @StoneSwords: I don't actually know. I just know that RR itself says on its compatibility thread to install SCS afterwards. (And by default SCS should be installed as late as possible, so unless another mod specifically wants to go after SCS it's generally best to put it late.)
  • StoneSwordsStoneSwords Member Posts: 180
    ok, good info to know then.
  • LiamEslerLiamEsler Member Posts: 1,859
    @DavidW Done! Cheers :) This probably needs to be updated in the BWP guide as well, though I'm not sure who's in charge of that at the moment.
  • mr_namelessmr_nameless Member Posts: 37
    edited November 2013
    For those of you who are relatively new to modding BGII and install orders, check out the Big World install PDF v13 (as LiamEsler mentioned the BWP guide) :

    http://www.shsforums.net/files/category/72-big-world-project/?sort_order=ASC&sort_key=file_name&num=10&st=10

    It list nearly every single mods for BG and BGII with the best install order possible for the least conflict. I've always use this as a general guide before BGEE came along.
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