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Racial bonuses changed?

AshendilAshendil Member Posts: 56
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I was hoping to start a new game of BGEE tonight to finally play through the whole game before going on to BG2EE. However, as always, I forgot how long it can take to decide on and create a new character ;).

I noticed one thing that made me think though... humans do get racial bonuses (or boni) now. Is this new? Have they changed racial boni with patch 1.2? As far as I can remember humans never got any boni except for being able to dual-class.

It would be great if someone could tell me whether I am just mistaken or some changes have been made in that regard.

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  • ShinShin Member Posts: 2,344
    Bonuses to what?
  • TJ_HookerTJ_Hooker Member Posts: 2,438
    edited November 2013
    I assume you're talking about thieving skills? In that case, no, nothing has actually changed. Check out this thread for more info: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/20918/missing-informations-about-natural-bonuses-to-thieves-skills

    The in-game descriptions are inconsistent though, with the bonuses for humans and half-orcs being in absolute terms, but the bonuses for other races being relative to the human/half-orc 'baseline'. To get the total racial bonuses, you have to take the values listed for that race and add them to the values listed for humans/half-orcs.
  • SharShar Member Posts: 158
    Ashendil said:

    I was hoping to start a new game of BGEE tonight to finally play through the whole game before going on to BG2EE. However, as always, I forgot how long it can take to decide on and create a new character ;).

    I noticed one thing that made me think though... humans do get racial bonuses (or boni) now. Is this new? Have they changed racial boni with patch 1.2? As far as I can remember humans never got any boni except for being able to dual-class.

    It would be great if someone could tell me whether I am just mistaken or some changes have been made in that regard.

    I hear you i, started late friday did whole day yesterday and still got few quests in BG, Ugoth Beard and Durlags tower to clear.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    Basically the problem is that the includes the base thieving values with the racial values, only some of the time. Last I looked into it for instance Half-Orc's got no listed "bonuses"


    Half Elf should state the following:

    +10% Open Locks, +5% Find Traps, +25% Pick Pockets, +10% Move Silently, +10% Hide in Shadows.

    Halfling should state the following:

    +15% Open Locks, +10% Find Traps, +20% Pick Pockets, +20% Move Silently, +20% Hide in Shadows.

    Half-Orc should state the following:

    +10% Open Locks, +5% Find Traps, +15% Pick Pockets, +10% Move Silently, +5% Hide in Shadows.
  • AshendilAshendil Member Posts: 56
    Hello again,

    yes, most of what I read were thieving bonuses. I guess that has been explained away then. I have played through BG about 5 times now and I never knew these existed.
    On a kind of only loosely related note... I tinkered around a bit and made myself an elven Undead Hunter with the aid of Shadowkeeper. Is there any way I can find out whether the bonuses an elf should receive are applied on my new char?
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