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Hexxat and Dorn's quests

needsmoarhamstersneedsmoarhamsters Member Posts: 30
edited November 2013 in BGII:EE Bugs (v1.2.2030)
I've noticed a couple of issues with Hexxat and Dorn's questlines:

1) Dorn's first quest breaks the Order of the Radiant Heart building, so the gloves of healing need to be gotten prior to Dorn's wedding crash.

2) I've mentioned it here, but Dragomir's wraith despawned for me during Hexxat's first quest, making it impossible to finish.

3) During Hexxat's 3rd quest it is possible to obtain 3 items (lamp of oil, golden statue, silk cloth) that don't seem to serve any gameplay function. They can be disposed of, but it seems odd that they don't do anything.

4) After Hexxat's 3rd quest, she is told that L has released her from his employment. However, the quest journal is not updated, saying "Hexxat is anxious to return to Amn" even after she has no reason to do so.

5) During Dorn's 2nd quest, slaughtering the Helmites provokes a dialog after the combat. Dorn refers to CHARNAME questioning the value of serving Ur-Gothoz, even though it is possible to initiate the combat via 2 dialog options that do not make sense in this context (telling the priest he is about to die, and mocking Dorn's pretentious moaning about his heavy burden)

6) After Dorn's 2nd quest is completed, during the same dialog mentioned above, there is no option to peaceably discuss Ur-Gothoz with Dorn if you choose option 1 at first. The only response I could get to end the conversation was "And neither do I care."

7) Finally, Hexxat romance is taking forever to start. She is marked as 1 in HexxatRomanceActive, but I wonder if spurning Dorn is interfering with her romance timer?
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  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681

    3) During Hexxat's 3rd quest it is possible to obtain 3 items (lamp of oil, golden statue, silk cloth) that don't seem to serve any gameplay function. They can be disposed of, but it seems odd that they don't do anything.

    They do have (optional) functions in that area.

    7) Finally, Hexxat romance is taking forever to start. She is marked as 1 in HexxatRomanceActive, but I wonder if spurning Dorn is interfering with her romance timer?

    Her talks are separated by about 90 minutes in real time, and they won't happen in "dungeon" areas, in combat, or in Chapter 5. If you want to speed it up, you can use C:AdvanceRealTime("99999").

    I'm moving this topic to the bug forum so the other issues don't get lost.
  • needsmoarhamstersneedsmoarhamsters Member Posts: 30
    Ok, thanks! I didn't notice those items until I was about to leave, so that explains it. I will try the console command and see if it works.

    For whoever it may concern, I was able to finish Dorn's quest regardless of issue 6.
  • needsmoarhamstersneedsmoarhamsters Member Posts: 30
    The console command does not seem to help. I tried entering it once, walking around a bit, entering a new area, and re-entering the console command a couple of times.

    Is there a chapter-specific requirement on Hexxat's romance? I've also finished her 3rd quest if that makes any difference.
  • HinkelHinkel Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2013
    Has anyone else encountered the bug, where Azuthet spawn an infinite amount of times? During the encounter after Dorn`s second Quest. You get trapped, because the cutscene repeats itself over and over without giving you the chance to break it.

    It happened twice and now it`s working correctly again. Rather strange...
  • needsmoarhamstersneedsmoarhamsters Member Posts: 30
    I haven't seen that specific bug, but in general cutscenes tend to have problems in the EE I think. I've had a few instances where NPCs didnt spawn for a cutscene, or spawned and then sat there for around 2 minutes of real time before continuing the scene.
  • vierraevierrae Member Posts: 103
    Hinkel said:

    Has anyone else encountered the bug, where Azuthet spawn an infinite amount of times? During the encounter after Dorn`s second Quest. You get trapped, because the cutscene repeats itself over and over without giving you the chance to break it.

    It happened twice and now it`s working correctly again. Rather strange...

    Same here. Azothet infinite spawn broke my game and I have no savegame aywhere near this place...
  • KahranKahran Member Posts: 4
    Would seem appropriate, wouldn't it. I recently made a slightly ranty post here about how I had to restart the entire game due bug / lack of information preventing me from ever getting Hexxat in the first place. Now I have her, several hours played real-time, and no romance. The board has several other posts showing concerns of the same, yet no solutions. None.

    So apparently for now she's bugged as heck for all RP / romance purposes and it's literally a throw-a-dice-and-better-hope-for-6, or just restart restart restart, huh?

    Any word about a patch, or any concern whatsoever to get this fixed?
  • LiamEslerLiamEsler Member Posts: 1,859
    @Kahran Have you tried advancing the game clock?

    C:AdvanceRealTime(999999)
  • KahranKahran Member Posts: 4
    @LiamEsler, actually after enough browsing I found this: C:SetGlobal("HexxatLovetalksTimer","GLOBAL",1)

    So far that's helped. But among the topics that mentioned that, were also cases where it stopped working. So we'll see, I suppose.
  • IllydthIllydth Member, Developer Posts: 1,641
    1) Is related to reported issue 6673. Dorn's wedding crashing opening quest breaks anything having to do with the order of the radiant heart. If Keldorn is out of party and will meet you there? Broken, If keldorn happens to have any equipment in his inventory? Gone. Want to finish Anomen and turn him hostile? Nope. The thing to keep in mind about aquiring Dorn and completing his wedding crashing quest is you are locking out the Order permanently from the moment you pick Dorn up. That said, this is sort of "intended" functionality. While there are pieces that are NOT intended, (like the loss of non-quest tagged items), the "locking out" of the order of the radiant heart building is in fact the intended consequence.

    As to the rest, I hate to do this to you all, but consolidated bug reports are impossible to maintain. I can't mark these threads as attached to any given bug nor can I manage 6 bug reports in a single thread...the discussion gets too convoluted.

    For those issues that are not already in the consolidated bug report thread (I don't think any of these are), can some of you start opening additional threads on these bugs? Attach saved games where appropriate (and I think all of them are appropriate to needing a saved game) and provide reproduction steps if possible.

    We'll get to all of these as we try to get through both the backlog of bugs and the influx of new bugs on a daily basis. The easier you can make these to track down and verify the faster these will get reported and get on the radar for fixing.

    Thanks for indulging us in this. I apologize for asking you all to go through the extra work, but anything that makes these issues easier to track and follow up on will save everyone time and effort in the long run.
  • vierraevierrae Member Posts: 103
    In ToB at the end of Hexxat's questline, when there are certain options to pick, things go like "let's walk the night together etc"and "I can't let go of you" as if my CHARNAME has been engaged in a romance. I guess that's a bug.
  • RajickRajick Member Posts: 207
    my problem is that hexxat and dorns quest lines havent started at all when are they supposed to start cuz its pissing me off
  • LaysssergLayssserg Member Posts: 32


    3) During Hexxat's 3rd quest it is possible to obtain 3 items (lamp of oil, golden statue, silk cloth) that don't seem to serve any gameplay function. They can be disposed of, but it seems odd that they don't do anything.
    They do have (optional) functions in that area.

    Fore what need this iteams ?
  • IllydthIllydth Member, Developer Posts: 1,641
    Folks, again, my apologies but i'm going to have to insist you all read my last post here.

    @Layssserg / @Rajick: These look like game questions and do not belong on the bug forum till someone has confirmed that what you're seeing are in fact bugs (or if you have some re-production steps and a saved game that you can post with an "Expected/observed" statement (I observed this happening, I expected this to happen).

    @vierrae: Sounds like you might have a legitimate bug there, can you create a new thread on that bug, zip up a saved game and let us know what you're experiencing.

    Please do NOT do that here. I've already asked the OP to split out the various bug reports listed here into their own reports so as to track them better.
  • RajickRajick Member Posts: 207
    @Illydth I have no idea what to expect other then quests and I'm not getting any so yeah I'm pissed and scrapt that playthrough because of it
  • IllydthIllydth Member, Developer Posts: 1,641
    @Rajick: I hope you didn't take my post as either dismissive or obnoxious. I'm not trying to suggest you don't/didn't have an issue. I am trying to say that to be able to solve a problem, we must be able to understand and re-produce that problem. The only way that happens is through a bug report in which we can clearly identify what is going wrong and what the expected result is.

    From a "teach a man to fish" perspective lets go through your report a second.

    "my problem is that hexxat and dorns quest lines havent started at all when are they supposed to start cuz its pissing me off"

    Ok, so there are many possibilities, lets take Dorn only:

    1) Dorn isn't out front of the Paladin Building. You can't talk with Dorn to start the quests because he doesn't exist in your game. This could be anything from a corrupted installation to not playing the EE to not knowing where Dorn is...or you could have an honest bug...a condition caused by something else you've done (maybe the bug is caused by going to Dorn before getting the "Eye" quest cutscene).

    A better report here would be: "I've gone into the Temple Zone to Dorn's location just outside the Radient Heart building, but Dorn isn't there!"

    2) Dorn exists but when you talk with him he won't give you the option to start his quest line/pick him up into the party. This could be anything from not knowing what options to pick to some character variable not set so he thinks he's already in your party.

    A better report here would be: "I've gone into the Temple Zone and Talked with Dorn, I used options 3, 2, 1, and then 4 which should allow him to get into my party but he just says 'I don't want to talk with you now CHARNAME'"

    3) Dorn Exists, he's in your party but he hasn't put a quest into your journal telling you what to do next.

    A better report here would be: "I talked with Dorn and got him into my party, but he hasn't given me a quest for what to do to keep him there. I continued adventuring and he left after 5 days saying I hadn't done what he wanted me to do."

    4) Dorn Exists, he's in your party, his quest is in your log, but you can't trigger the quest start. This could be anything from entering the wrong building all the way to the cutscene trigger didn't happen because some condition kept the trigger from happening (say Keldorn was waiting for you in the Radient heart building from another quest and maybe there's a bug that stops Dorn's stuff from happening in that case?)

    A better report here would be: "I talked with Dorn and started his quest to take out the wedding party, but when I enter the Radient Heart building there is no wedding party there."

    As you can see, "I can't do Dorn's Quest and it's pissing me off" can mean a plethora of things. When reporting bugs we need you to be specific about what is wrong. What did you do? What are you seeing? What have you tried? At minimum upload a saved game with your report asking for help.

    The mods, admins, OverHaul staff, and many many other community experts are here to help. We spend our time on these boards INTENTIONALLY getting into threads that are asking for help so that we CAN help you make this game playable and fun for you. We realize you're upset that the game isn't/didn't play as you expected.

    The good news is that we CAN do something about that. We just need a little assistance.
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