Wish you liked a class?

Sindyan

Has there been any class in the baldurs gate series that you wish you could like but no matter how hard or long you played you could not like the character?


For me druid.

Minus a couple high level spells; cleric is a lot better,

nano

I guess shapeshifter druids are mine. I tried the improved shapshifter and while it's pretty strong the whole concept makes me sad. Your only form is the werewolf and all you can do is hit stuff. It should be the best shapeshifter, but compared to polymorph self and shape shift which offer you many different forms for different situations, it just feels lacking even if the werewolf is competent.

Felspawn

the idea of a druid is great, its just poorly executed in 2E, at least in BG.

Lord_Tansheron

Have to agree with druid. I tried various combinations, even Ranger/Cleric for the druid spells... and I just can't seem to find anything redeeming about them. Their spells just aren't cutting it, Iron Skins is basically the only spell I ever found worth using and that alone is not enough.

sffrrrom

Cleric, for me. But that's because of the central plot of BG. I just can't figure out a way that RP'ing a Cleric makes sense when you're the Spawn of Bhaal, especially given the various endings to ToB. Especially not an evil cleric. Maybe a good one, I guess, but that bores me for different reasons.

Smaug

The bard. I like it in theory, but I found it to be a completely useless class. For my money, there are much better classes to flesh out my party.

Smaug

sffrrrom said:

I just can't figure out a way that RP'ing a Cleric makes sense when you're the Spawn of Bhaal, especially given the various endings to ToB. Especially not an evil cleric. Maybe a good one, I guess, but that bores me for different reasons.

Can you explain what you mean? Why doesn't RP'ing an evil cleric make sense? I've done it during a few playthroughs.

DrHappyAngry

I think it's druid for me as well. They're not bad, since they level differently than clerics, plus have a different set of weapons, but the whole neutrality thing always bugged me. Especially since certain factions were obviously neutral-good or neutral-evil. Their wonky XP for leveling makes them ill suited for multiclassing in BG2, too.

I never got why they were allowed to use scimitars. I know it comes from the real 2nd ed rules, but the rest of their weapon proficiencies were all supposed to be natural weapons. If anything axes would make more sense than scimitars. They can't use long swords because they're unnatural, but scimitars are OK. I'm OK with mages using slings and not bows, since it fits balance-wise, but the whole Druids wielding scimitars thing was just nonsensical. I wonder where it came from, since no druid in history ever even saw a scimitar.

Sindyan

DrHappyAngry said:

I think it's druid for me as well. They're not bad, since they level differently than clerics, plus have a different set of weapons, but the whole neutrality thing always bugged me. Especially since certain factions were obviously neutral-good or neutral-evil. Their wonky XP for leveling makes them ill suited for multiclassing in BG2, too.

I never got why they were allowed to use scimitars. I know it comes from the real 2nd ed rules, but the rest of their weapon proficiencies were all supposed to be natural weapons. If anything axes would make more sense than scimitars. They can't use long swords because they're unnatural, but scimitars are OK. I'm OK with mages using slings and not bows, since it fits balance-wise, but the whole Druids wielding scimitars thing was just nonsensical. I wonder where it came from, since no druid in history ever even saw a scimitar.

I think the closet thing to a sickle

Philhelm

Pure Ranger. He has stealth but nothing to do in conjunction with it, like disable traps or backstab. Since the stealth isn't all that valuable, he may as well wear heavy armor, which leaves me wondering why I didn't just play a Fighter. I do like the Stalker and Archer though.

elminster

I like druids.

Fighters on the other hand...meh. Unless they are in a multiclass I just don't play them.

Chaotic_Good

I have a hard time playing any basic class if I am not backstabbing or casting a spell don't really enjoy it the npcs are my meat shields. Current Class beast master going to duel to cleric when I get into bg2 going with duel clubs because it seems to fit a Beast master/Cleric (rp).

I really liked the Shadow Dancer but the last patch killed the roll playing aspect for me.

BlakeDrapeta

The assassin. I love the concept of the class, but ultimately BG isn't a stealth game, and being a sneaky evil jerk usually results in the game punishing you (if you choose to play as an evil character, not suggesting it's necessary as an assassin, but who ever heard of an assassin with a heart of gold?). You get a small bonus to THACO and up to x7 sneak dmg multiplier, but that's it really. You're basically playing a less effective thief.

I hope in future games (c'mon BG3!) they'll focus more on fleshing out subclasses so that they can hold their own rather than being handicapped variations of existing archetypes.

element

rangers I don't know why I just never seems to enjoy using them and usualy abort the game pretty quickly

also druids are cool stop picking on them

Chaotic_Good

The assassins poison is huge HUUGGEEE!! The trade in thief skill points is a very meager one.

cbarchuk

Chaotic_Good said:

The assassins poison is huge HUUGGEEE!! The trade in thief skill points is a very meager one.

I agree. I think assassins are one of the few outstanding pure classes to go with.

Zarakinthish

I'm not sure if I could ever play a bard. It would be a different story if they could sing AND fight, but no, you can only do one or the other. If you are only fighting and/or casting arcane spells, what is the point when other classes can do those same things better?

jamesker

1. Wizard Slayer ( good if it wasn't for all the disadvantages to equipment)
2. Druid ( and more or less all kits)
3. Dragon disciple ( now i know what your gonna say dragon breath is awesome etc, but too few spells to be a effective spell caster, and still too soft even with Con bonus to be in the front line. )

Quartz

Sorceror. Definitely Sorceror. Hell mages in general sort of bore me to play as a PC.

FinaLfront

Kensai for me.

I remember when BGII came out I was excited to see this cool sounding "samurai" kit. It was the first class I rolled and right off the bat I noticed there wasn't a cool looking samurai model for it. The mage model would have been more fitting over the unarmored fighter. It also has a lot of monk-like drawbacks, but hardly anything to make up for that. Plus the inability to use even ranged weapons forces very one dimensional play. I just couldn't get immersed into that

DrHappyAngry

Sindyan said:

I think the closet thing to a sickle

Sickles and Scythes were allowed weapons for Druids in 2nd ed PnP. So that wouldn't explain why they could use scimitars.

I can agree with Dragon Disciple being useless too. In 3rd ed the class was pretty much made to be mixed with some warrior levels, or at the very least a tough bard. The way they implemented it in BG:EE is pretty weak.

nano

I disagree about the Dragon Disciple being weak. Maybe the bonuses aren't enough for people to choose it over a sorcerer but it's still an arcane caster with sorcerer-style casting. Even a nerfed sorcerer is incredibly strong.

Caradoc

Wizard slayer. I just don't think that the benefits outweight the negatives. They should consider giving the poor guy some extra bonuses or abilities, because the restrictions are just too strict and its boring not to be allowed to use any cool gear.

mjs

beast master. the animal summons and stealth bonus aren't strong enough to justify losing a lot of weapon selection (i mean at least add the spear if you're going to allow arrows, and i think axes would be RP plausible too) and missing out on anything heavier than leather.

this is a beast MASTER, why is the best thing he can summon 2-3 12HD animals at lvl 12?

ChildofBhaal599

Spellcasters. I just hate mage roleplaying

Kurumi

Caradoc said:

Wizard slayer. I just don't think that the benefits outweight the negatives. They should consider giving the poor guy some extra bonuses or abilities, because the restrictions are just too strict and its boring not to be allowed to use any cool gear.

Yeah.. the only Wiz Slayer I play is a Wiz Slayer/Thief.. the HLA "Use Any Item" overrides the Wiz Slayers restriction, but pure Wiz Slayer.. meh.

Arktosa

Barbarian,pure monk and fighter for the lack of spellcasting

HenriusMcKnight

Arcane casters, i can't stand playing them, i always "drag" one in the party with the only purpose of removing protections.

jackjack

Barbarian. I really do want to like them, but every time I try rolling one, I somehow end up with a Berserker.

XerxesV

I'd say clerics. I have tried, oh how I have tried to play a cleric. I just can't do it. I keep one around occasionally so I have someone to use my cool hammers and flails. But they seem to me to be weak fighters and weak spellcasters.

I only like a few of their exclusive spells (command, false dawn, Earthquake, protection from negative energy). I don't rely on them much for healing in battles except for slow poison. I've almost eliminated the need for emergency healing now that I've broken my OCD hoarding of potions. I do need them for restoration spells, but if you have the cash anyone can cast a scroll.

I'm sure I could metagame and make them awesome. And I'm missing out on 3 different stronghold quests, but I can't do it. I'll just play a Mage for the 100th time instead.

RnRClown

It is not so much wishing that I liked the class, because I do like the Cleric as a class. It is rather wishing that I could put aside real world prejudice towards religion and its many conflicting orders. I managed to do so for the Paladin, as I was able to envision a backstory without the prerequisite of conformity to such an order, but rather a deity (without the middle man - religion) granting divine favor based on an individuals actions, and moral principles.

The one class which I wished I liked more would be the Monk. I have never even came close to creating a Monk, even when their class mechanics pique my interest.