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Gnomes are awfully under-rated!

EvilSchmevilEvilSchmevil Member Posts: 15
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I may just be a bit of a nubbin, but gnomes are awfully under-rated! Both in actual pen&paper D&D, and fantasty video games - they seem to be a bit of a stickler for abuse.

Personally, aside from warrior orientated options - I think they're one of the most unique options!
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  • nanonano Member Posts: 1,632
    They're certainly powerful... but they're just so puntable.
  • EvilSchmevilEvilSchmevil Member Posts: 15
    that'd be a fantastic idea for a seige weapon - Jan Jansen talking about his cousins launched into an enemy fort will bore the living s**t out of them.
  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190
    Reminds me of the time one of my 4E players created Alabaster the Ivory, a gnome archwizard. He joined late one night, rode in on his flying carpet with illusory strippers dancing in the sky, and gave the party a huge amount of cold resistance with a spell. Their frost giant foes happened to deal 100% cold damage, so I quickly became bored and declared them the winners of the encounter, eager to move on.

    Underrated, indeed.
  • LordRumfishLordRumfish Member Posts: 937
    All of the races have their strong points, and gnomes are pretty spiffy. My apathy is reserved for halflings... they work for J.R.R. Tolkien, sure. In my game worlds though, I tend to find them kinda boring and often this means they don't exist at all in the world. I haven't gotten rid of gnomes though, if that tells you anything. ^_~
  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190
    LordRumfish said:

    All of the races have their strong points, and gnomes are pretty spiffy. My apathy is reserved for halflings... they work for J.R.R. Tolkien, sure. In my game worlds though, I tend to find them kinda boring and often this means they don't exist at all in the world. I haven't gotten rid of gnomes though, if that tells you anything. ^_~

    Just gotta make them have their one unique thing, those halflings. In 4th Edition, they're the lucky, affable race. In Everquest, they get along with everybody, etc.
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    I want Gnomes to be able to play Bards. That would for sure be my option to romance Aerie.
    Bard Gnomes=win
  • DrEastDrEast Member Posts: 113
    A gnome fighter/illusionist is often considered among the strongest combat PC builds available, both at melee and magic (and fun combinations of both).
  • TheGraveDiggerTheGraveDigger Member Posts: 336
    booinyoureyes said:

    I want Gnomes to be able to play Bards. That would for sure be my option to romance Aerie.
    Bard Gnomes=win

    You can enable all classes for the gnome by editing just the CLSRCREQ.2DA... I'm running with a gnome avenger right now.

  • mjsmjs Member Posts: 742
    i like gnomes, they're the only shorty class that can be an arcane caster and the only race that can multi/specialist

    but why no bonus shorty saves for death rolls??
  • EvilSchmevilEvilSchmevil Member Posts: 15
    booinyoureyes said:

    I want Gnomes to be able to play Bards. That would for sure be my option to romance Aerie. Bard Gnomes=win

    I wanna see Gnome Beserkers!

  • EvilSchmevilEvilSchmevil Member Posts: 15
    ;)
  • reedmilfamreedmilfam Member Posts: 2,808
    I don't dislike them; it's more that they don't interest me.
  • althoralthor Member Posts: 67
    They just look so goofy running around next to my Half-orc fighter.
  • ThunderThunder Member Posts: 157
    Gnomes just fall short in certain aspects.
  • EvilSchmevilEvilSchmevil Member Posts: 15
    *dum-tiss* Their aspirations don't seem to reach great heights
  • reedmilfamreedmilfam Member Posts: 2,808
    I think I'd consider one, if I were to play a mage. I don't really do the magic thing, although I probably should.

    ...I don't always play Baldur's Gate, but, when I do, I play a melee combatant...
  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511
    reedmilfam said:

    I think I'd consider one, if I were to play a mage. I don't really do the magic thing, although I probably should.

    ...I don't always play Baldur's Gate, but, when I do, I play a melee combatant...

    Fighter/illusionist. Awesome.
  • DetectiveMittensDetectiveMittens Member Posts: 235
    Gnome Dwarven Defenders would be interesting. Would they then be Gnomish Defenders :£
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    Whatever gave you the idea they're underrated? Most people here would agree Gnomish F/I is perhaps the best multiclass in the game.
  • FafnirFafnir Member Posts: 232
    My gnome Illusionist/Thief is one of my favorite characters ever.
  • velehalvelehal Member Posts: 299
    Fafnir said:

    My gnome Illusionist/Thief is one of my favorite characters ever.

    Exactly. I don´t understand why would anybody prefer elf over gnome. Not only from powergaming perspecitves. Who would like to be an elf if he could be a gnome?

  • nanonano Member Posts: 1,632
    Schneidend said:

    LordRumfish said:

    All of the races have their strong points, and gnomes are pretty spiffy. My apathy is reserved for halflings... they work for J.R.R. Tolkien, sure. In my game worlds though, I tend to find them kinda boring and often this means they don't exist at all in the world. I haven't gotten rid of gnomes though, if that tells you anything. ^_~

    Just gotta make them have their one unique thing, those halflings. In 4th Edition, they're the lucky, affable race. In Everquest, they get along with everybody, etc.
    I love halflings in Master of Magic where they're a terrifyingly powerful military race. They're are great in TOME4 as well, where they are ruthless military strategists. After all, it can't just be luck and friendliness that causes other races to leave them alone...
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    edited November 2013

    Just gotta make them have their one unique thing, those halflings. In 4th Edition, they're the lucky, affable race. In Everquest, they get along with everybody, etc.
    I love halflings in Master of Magic where they're a terrifyingly powerful military race. They're are great in TOME4 as well, where they are ruthless military strategists. After all, it can't just be luck and friendliness that causes other races to leave them alone...
    Tell that to the Swiss
  • nanonano Member Posts: 1,632
    The Swiss have an army...
  • badbromancebadbromance Member Posts: 238
    Gnome cleric/thief BOOM. Plenty of thieve skills to help at the beginning and shorty saves.
    More powerful in the long run tha a Half-Orc IMO
  • cervanntescervanntes Member Posts: 64
    I'm kind of glad gnomes are a little underrated, simply because I like playing them and it wouldn't be as fun if everyone else was a gnome! Seriously, though, they are a solid race capable of holding their own in most roles, but especially as a illusionist multiclass.
  • GamingFreakGamingFreak Member Posts: 639
    gnomes are great for a Chaotic Neutral playthrough. "I'm gonna pick my nose, now I'm gonna shoot Magic Missle at that guy over there. Now I get charmed by beautiful female vampires over yonder, must make roll to determine whether I'll betray my party or not."
  • RajickRajick Member Posts: 207
    I like gnomes but I just can't rp one so I can't play them
  • MungriMungri Member Posts: 1,645
    velehal said:

    Fafnir said:

    My gnome Illusionist/Thief is one of my favorite characters ever.

    Exactly. I don´t understand why would anybody prefer elf over gnome. Not only from powergaming perspecitves. Who would like to be an elf if he could be a gnome?


    Because elves make great archers or sorcerers, gnomes cant make either of those.
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    Mungri said:

    velehal said:

    Fafnir said:

    My gnome Illusionist/Thief is one of my favorite characters ever.

    Exactly. I don´t understand why would anybody prefer elf over gnome. Not only from powergaming perspecitves. Who would like to be an elf if he could be a gnome?


    Because elves make great archers or sorcerers, gnomes cant make either of those.
    In Temple of Elemental Evil my gnome sorcerer was such a boss. She destroyed everything.
    Really wish we could have gnome sorcs.
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