Fighter/Thief dual proficiency question

Wilbur

Kind of a noobish question, but here goes: When I get gack the fighter abilities can I put more than one pip in weapon proficiencies when leveling up as a thief? If so can I max them?

Mungri

Yes you can, but bear in mind that your thief levels wont gain as many proficiency points as quickly as your fighter levels did.

When dual classing from a fighter, its best to choose which weapon you want to use and reach grandmastery before dual classing, then when your fighter levels reactivate, you have immediate access to grandmastery.

Wilbur

@Mungri

Ok, thanks. I don't know if I need GM right away though. I'm thinking about dualing at fighter level three and I know it's not optimal in a power gaming sense. But it's good to know I can still get GM if I need to.

Mungri

You should dual at level 7 minimum for the extra 0.5 attack per round, level 9 for max fighter hit die, or level 13 for another 0.5 attack per round.

You gain almost nothing dualing at level 3.

Wilbur

I know but it's more of a role playing thing and also keeping charname from being OP. I do get access to better proficiencies anyway. I would be stuck with only one pip as a plain thief.

FinneousPJ

You'll still get GM by thief 8 if you dual at ftr 3, so it's not that bad.

ChildofBhaal599

you can also get GM by thief 8 if you dual at fighter 7. I would say I recommend fighter 7 for hit points, apr and still reaching GM in BG1

FinneousPJ

Yes, but if you don't want the down time ftr 3 is brilliant.

Mungri

What do you even need 3 fighter levels for then?

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Mungri said:

What do you even need 3 fighter levels for then?

Fighter 3 gives you an extra proficiency pip without forcing you to waste any non-starting thief pips. If your goal is to hit GM in the BG1 XP cap, you need to dual at 3 at the earliest and 7 by the latest. Three levels gets you GM while minimizing downtime.

Wilbur

Kaigen said:

Mungri said:

What do you even need 3 fighter levels for then?

Fighter 3 gives you an extra proficiency pip without forcing you to waste any non-starting thief pips. If your goal is to hit GM in the BG1 XP cap, you need to dual at 3 at the earliest and 7 by the latest. Three levels gets you GM while minimizing downtime.

And not just an extra proficiency, access to more than being just proficient with a weapon.

moody_mage

I like to dual Shar-Teel over to thief once she hits Fighter level 3 (once I respec her initial weapon choices anyway). She gains GM in longbow, specialised in short sword and can throw on full plate and shield in a straight up melee fight whilst losing nothing with regards to her thieving skills.