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One thing I don't understand...

Ironmancal2131Ironmancal2131 Member Posts: 23
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Why do Dwarves get a -2 penalty to charisma, but Half-Orcs don't? To me, it would make more sense if H-O got the negative as well, since they wouldn't fit in with Orcs or Humans.

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  • jackjackjackjack Member Posts: 3,251
    I guess they're just sexier.
  • 17651765 Member Posts: 71
    uh, have you ever tried saying no to a half orc buddy?
  • Big_MurrayBig_Murray Member Posts: 69
    Because most of the lack of charisma originates from the beard.
  • Ironmancal2131Ironmancal2131 Member Posts: 23
    I'd rather say no to a Half-Orc than deal with a frothing, 4 foot battering ram attacking my knees with a hammer!
  • TaevikTaevik Member Posts: 38
    It probably has to do with the fact that the game was originally released during a period of time when the rules were shifting from second edition to third. The designers had a rough idea of the new material that was coming out, but they didn't really design everything to correspond to what it should have been.
  • AristilliusAristillius Member Posts: 873
    Charisma isnt the same as appearance.
  • jackjackjackjack Member Posts: 3,251
    Big_Murray said:

    Because most of the lack of charisma originates from the beard.

    I refuse to believe that!

  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    Big_Murray said:

    Because most of the lack of charisma originates from the beard.

    Yeah, especially for the females.
  • TheGraveDiggerTheGraveDigger Member Posts: 336
    It's a bug, it should only be -1
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    edited November 2013
    TheGraveDigger said:

    It's a bug, it should only be -1

    Nah its always been the case in 2nd edition D&D that Dwarves maximum charisma (on character creation) is 16.
  • TheGraveDiggerTheGraveDigger Member Posts: 336
    This is a link to the AD&D 2E Player's Handbook
    http://www.seads.org/TSR/phbbk.htm

    Search for Racial Ability Requirements
  • jackjackjackjack Member Posts: 3,251
    Must be a typo.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    TheGraveDigger said:

    This is a link to the AD&D 2E Player's Handbook
    http://www.seads.org/TSR/phbbk.htm

    Search for Racial Ability Requirements

    "Consult Table 7 before making any racial adjustments to your character's ability scores."

    In other words Dwarves get -1 to that 17 value. Just like halflings don't start out with 18 strength (which is what that table shows) they get -1 to that 18.
  • TheGraveDiggerTheGraveDigger Member Posts: 336
    elminster said:

    TheGraveDigger said:

    This is a link to the AD&D 2E Player's Handbook
    http://www.seads.org/TSR/phbbk.htm

    Search for Racial Ability Requirements

    "Consult Table 7 before making any racial adjustments to your character's ability scores."

    In other words Dwarves get -1 to that 17 value. Just like halflings don't start out with 18 strength (which is what that table shows) they get -1 to that 18.
    Well spotted. I should've know I was wrong, since nobody else spoke up about it.
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