Are producers ashamed of their past?
I just noticed how Bioware ditched all of their pages about NWN, now the only thing left is a forum and 'legacy' page.
Same thing with Diablo down over at Blizzy.
Same thing with Runescape Classic over at Jagex (the version of the game that was actually FUN)!
So why do companies hide all their old stuff? Why do they pretend they didn't ever sell?
Same thing with Diablo down over at Blizzy.
Same thing with Runescape Classic over at Jagex (the version of the game that was actually FUN)!
So why do companies hide all their old stuff? Why do they pretend they didn't ever sell?
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i don't know if it is a shame, but it is weird to act like evil stepmother. i mean what, the older games need to be toned down because they might steal attention from newer games? please...
One thing I loved about the NWN games though were the online character planners, and trying to come up with awesome builds and party combinations, but as soon as I had a desire to try them out in the actual game I was simply dismayed with how horrible the game was to play.
Believe me man the original campaign could've been lots better. Side quests, more detailed lands (placeables make ugly tileset liveable), plenty more NPCs. It needs work.
What made NWN win was the atmosphere when you step into the game. Even though the graphics aren't great and the characters look like crap, it was the atmosphere which made it good.
But why Bioware would take down all their NWN and IE game stuff is odd.
Many thanks.
Bioware just probably wants to streamline all attention to their new (terrible) games. I'm not sure about Blizzard hiding earlier DIablo games though, just before the launch of (horribly broken/badly designed) D3 they advertised a new D2 ladder season or something quite extensively. Diablo 1 they probably don't draw much attention to simply because how old it is.
Its a shame that it was made just as 3d games started being developed on a wider scale because, well, it looks terrible and dated now
As for why they are taking them down, no idea. Probably is something to do with them not wanting to divert attention from their newer stuff.
Despite the fact that the range you have to mod NWN is immense and it can do some really impressive stuff, what no doubt puts Mungri off is the graphics and the gameplay, which really aren't that good.
The selling point is the ability to create, not to play. The original campaign I enjoyed. Mungri didn't say anything about NWN being terrible for modding though. @NWN_babaYaga
NWN and diablo are not examples of this however
Because they are better products than their new games, so i think they want to eliminate competition.
NWN 1&2 are great games btw, maybe vanilla campaigns are not that epic but exp.packs and player generated modules are blast. We are still RPing in a NWN module once in a month.
I do aggree with Kitteh about biowares direction, but now that all their games have "awesome" buttons, what else do they need?
I did not discredit NWN for it's graphics even once. The graphics aren't great, no denying it. The character models look disgusting. But that doesn't make the game bad. I enjoy it and consider it one of the greatest that I've played.
The modding community is huge and as a consequence, most of the mods available are bad. That's just the way it has to be. That is the way it is for every game, most of the fan made stuff is bad.
I have no interest in persuing a forum to learn more about modding NWN if it involves such hasty and unthoughtful comments.
It would have been 50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times better if they stuck to the infinity engine even with black and white pong graphics, I hate 3D D&D games, rubbish abominations to the RPG genre. In fact I hate every single 3D game that Bioware has ever released, their 3D engines are the most atrocious I've ever played across any genre of video game.
A simple indie game like Magicka does gameplay perfectly for me compared to most of the 3D RPG abominations. I dont want 3D, I dont want first / third person view, I want nothing but top down locked camera Isometric view in this genre, and no one makes those anymore cos ZOMG everything nowadays has to be in shiny 3D with nauseating levels of light flashes, bloom, terrible character art and animations, and just overall pure garbage.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy KOTOR btw
Actually theres an awesome RPG on Steam for just 99p - Cthulhu Saves The World, vastly better to me personally than any single AAA 3D RPG I've ever played.
On the other hand, the old BW BG/BG2 forums contained tons of useful information that just ended up disappearing, and rarely seemed like a place where people bashed other games. So who knows.
that's like giving up halfway through Candlekeep man
Morrowind was a fine game but I feel like you may possibly be allowing your prejudices to get in the way of potentially enjoyable experiences
Let's take Diablo as an example. For the new players, a fair number will go "I wonder what Diablo 1 and 2 look like and play like" and they'll try and find a way to get it. But Blizzard doesn't want people to play D1/2, they want you to spend 60,- on D3 and play that.
Unlike books and to a lesser extent movies, people see games as having an expiration date or at least a value decrease over time. Imagine walking into a bookstore and argueing that, since the original Game of Thrones book came out 16 years (!) ago, you shouldn't have to spend more than 3,- on it. It does work that way with games, since the technology changes. So Blizzard/Atari/whoever doesn't want to advertise their old stuff that nobody wants to pay big money for, they focus on the new and expensive. They want people to sit in anticipation of Modern Warfare 4, 5 and 6, not go back and play the older Call of Duty's.
Plus, when you look at their site, they want you to see awesome, shiny games with new graphics and awesome combat. Not the clunky old stuff that makes newcomers think the company is five years behind.