Batman Villains Party

abacus

Back in Amn for the first time in years and I'm considering an all PC multiplayer run though with a Batman villains team. Initial thoughts are:
Joker - Jester (obviously)
Bane - Berserker (rages count as Venom surges)
Ra's al Ghul - Kensai (or maybe Blackguard)
Poison Ivy - Druid (maybe kitted
Catwoman - Thief (maybe kitty-kitted )
Scarecrow - Illusionist

I think this covers all the adventuring bases...
Those who didn't make the cut:
Deadshot - Archer
Firefly - Dragon Disciple (only fire-related spells)
Riddler - Bounty Hunter (a bit loose, but he likes traps)

Any thoughts/ suggestions?

lunar

Cool! I like the concept. Though it is a shame Scarecrow as an illusionist can not cast Horror spell. That would be very iconic. You have spook and it is more difficult to resist, but it only affects one target and lasts so short. IMHO Horror suits him better as it can induce mass panic and chaos upon crowds, which is his favourite past-time.

You can make him another specialist mage so he can get both spook and horror. Why not an enchanter? Chaos and emotion spells suit him well too, imagine the victims crying, weeping and laying on the floor, frozen with fear (emotion effect) or running away wandering aimlessly with panic, attacking random targets whom in their minds they see as monsters. (confusion effect) Plus I don't see him casting fireballs or lightnings and such. That would be out of character.

abacus

That actually does sound closer to the mark. Joker could always take care of the fireworks!
I'm a bit torn on Ra's... the ninja aspect suggests Kensai, but the twisted sense of honour and disturbing supernatural powers might suit Blackguard better...

booinyoureyes

This was well made. I like ALL your choices.

My favorite villain wasn't mentioned Two-Face is a tough one but how about a Fallen Paladin? That fits his character well.

I'd actually like Ra's al Ghul as a kensai-->mage or as a monk. It fits more with his supernatural element.

Catwoman would be cool as a shadowdancer.

Black Mask would make a decent Swashbuckler. I'd say some kind of bard as well, since he usually uses henchmen.

Mr Freeze is a clearly an Invoker with all ice spells You need some arcane casting in that party outside of Scarecrow (Illusionist is really perfect for him!)

abacus

Yeah, Two-Face is tricky.. Same problem with Penguin. Killer Croc could probably rock a half orc barbarian though, Zsasz probably a swashy or a blade. Maybe Clayface as a Shapeshifter?
In terms of party balance, Joker would probably be my secondary caster with lots of AoE damage.. There's no way he'd care about being party friendly!

CrevsDaak

The Joker should abuse of Cloud-like AoE spells, and I think Bane would make a better Barbarian.

lunar said:

Cool! I like the concept. Though it is a shame Scarecrow as an illusionist can not cast Horror spell. That would be very iconic. You have spook and it is more difficult to resist, but it only affects one target and lasts so short. IMHO Horror suits him better as it can induce mass panic and chaos upon crowds, which is his favourite past-time.

You can make him another specialist mage so he can get both spook and horror. Why not an enchanter? Chaos and emotion spells suit him well too, imagine the victims crying, weeping and laying on the floor, frozen with fear (emotion effect) or running away wandering aimlessly with panic, attacking random targets whom in their minds they see as monsters. (confusion effect) Plus I don't see him casting fireballs or lightnings and such. That would be out of character.

Completely agreed! That's what I was thinking of! And, also @abacus, what a nice idea you have.
Ra's al Ghul can be a Kensai-> Mage, or maybe a F/M and let him without armor, or make him a M->F and don't equip armor either. I think the Riddler would make more a Mage-> Thief or Bounty Hunter-> Mage, he was a science man. Catwoman should be a Swashbuckler, for sure, I don't get her as a Shadowdancer, maybe a Fighter/Thief fits well to her, but a Swashie should definitely do.

booinyoureyes

Catwoman as a Shadowdancer because of her acrobatics and ability to suddenly disappear.

Penguin... ummmm.... gnome illusionist/thief with an umbrella that is very very very secretly disguised as a club? There is a "Diplomat" prestige class somewhere out there that would fit his crime boss persona.

Killer Croc could also go for shapeshifter, i guess. Clayface would be good as that.

How about Hush as a blade? Some kind of bard due to his ability to deceive.

Zasz kinda sucks, so i can care less

Ra's def should be a kensai-->mage or a Monk since he is virtually immortal in some games and in BGII receive immunity to non-magical weapons at level 20.

abacus

Can't see Riddler as a Mage dual-, he's one of the least supernatural villains in the canon. Think I'm going to go with Ra's as a Blackguard (mostly because I've never played one!) katanas/ scimitars to match his oriental skills and he's often depicted in some form of armour when not in his robes.
I think H-Orc barbarian for Bane, purely for brute force.
Selina will probably be Shadowdancer, as she's more a stealth focus/burglar type, rather than combat focused like Swashbucklers.

abacus

Do Blackguards still get some divine spells like other Paladins? Obviously would have to be quite damage/debuff focused.
Might make Ivy an Avenger.. the anti-civilisation kit description seems to fit well, and when she fights she tends to use some form of uber-plant transformation/hybrid, which could represent the extra shapeshift forms..

abacus

Also, never played an Avenger before so these an attraction there.

abacus

Another concept: Firefly
Mal - Some sort of warrior
Jayne - Barbarian (low Int)
Simon - Cleric
River - Sorcerer
Book - Monk
Inara - Blade