Bhaalspawn Powers

Gazod

When you get the different powers, the 4 good or 4 bad, can you pick n mix maybe 2 bad or 2 good? If so which are the best to pick? If not which are the best set?

Also number 4 ''Permanent 25% Resistance to Physical Damage'', Does this include magical weapons? Or is it just for resisting non magical normal weapons?

enqenq

Hm, where are you getting this info from? There are 5 different choices, and none of them grant resistance to physical damage. But yes, you can mix and match as you please, bear in mind however that if your character isn't already evil, one single evil choice will change your alignment to evil.

Gazod

Ah ok, could you list the powers? cheers

Kurumi

You mean the 5 Tears of Bhaal, yes? - not the Bhaalspawn Powers..

FEAR TEAR
G: Immunity to +1 Weapons
E: +2 CON

SELFISHNESS TEAR
G: +10 Magic Res., DEX-1
E: +2 AC

GREED TEAR
G: +2 to all Saves
E: +15 HP

PRIDE TEAR
G: 20% Cold, Fire and Electricity Res.
E: 200000 XP

WRATH TEAR
G: WIS, CHA+1
E: STR+2, PRIMARY STAT+1

Gazod

Yeah i must of been reading something else. Maybe it was a mod or something, my bad.

ChildofBhaal599

Kurumi said:

You mean the 5 Tears of Bhaal, yes? - not the Bhaalspawn Powers..

FEAR TEAR
G: Immunity to +1 Weapons
E: +2 CON

SELFISHNESS TEAR
G: +10 Magic Res., DEX-1
E: +2 AC

GREED TEAR
G: +2 to all Saves
E: +15 HP

PRIDE TEAR
G: 20% Cold, Fire and Electricity Res.
E: 200000 XP

WRATH TEAR
G: WIS, CHA+1
E: STR+2, PRIMARY STAT+1

Wow I never knew what each trial associated with in the bonuses. That dex penalty actually seems pretty worth the magic resistance. Suddenly I only feel tempted by fear and wrath, as immunity to +1 is useless at that point and 2 strength and your primary stat is much better than wis and cha. If you are a cleric in need of wisdom you would get it anyway from the primary stat bonus

Eudaemonium

You're thinking of the 'Restored Bhaalspawn Powers' component of the BG2tweaks (?) mod for Throne of Bhaal, one of which is the 25% Physical Damage resistance.

Tenrecc

Is that from an old walkthrough, or the EE one? I heard that the +1 prim stat was removed in EE, although it was just what someone wrote on this forum (although a pretty reliable guy)

iavasechui

Well technically if you want you can mix and match your Bhaalspawn powers, granted I'm pretty sure this requires micromanaging your alignment before each dream in BG1EE to get to the powers you want and then importing said character.

Tenrecc

iavasechui said:

Well technically if you want you can mix and match your Bhaalspawn powers, granted I'm pretty sure this requires micromanaging your alignment before each dream in BG1EE to get to the powers you want and then importing said character.

Since the only alignment shift in the games comes from the Hell Tears, that would require cheating, and in that case, can't you just give your character all the powers you want anyway?

iavasechui

XD I meant reputation not alignment. Pretty sure the bhaalspawn powers in BG1 are determined by reputation.

enqenq

Naw, alignment. But anyway I'm pretty sure Gazod was asking about the tear rewards, not whether he can trade his 1d8 heal for a 1d4 life steal.

avocado

Bhaalspawn powers in BG1 are dependent upon reputation, not alignment. Any character can get any power with careful watching of the reputation.

Corvino

IIRC for the Bhaalspawn powers in BG1 if Rep is 10 or more you get "Good" powers, if 9 or less you get "Evil" Powers. You gain a power on resting early in each game chapter.

Good:
2x Cure Light Wounds
2x Slow Poison
2x Draw Upon Holy Might

Evil:
2x Larloch's Minor Drain
2x Ghoul Touch
2x Vampiric Touch

Eudaemonium

i should note that you get Horror now, not ghoul touch.

victory_rose

What I find weird is that if you create a new character in SoA, sometimes you get a mix of the Bhaalspawn powers. e.g. one Cure and one Larloch - admittedly I've only done this with Chaotic Neutral characters recently, so maybe you get the mix because you're at Rep 10 and right on the cusp of the good/evil reputation threshhold?

Moczo

victory_rose said:

What I find weird is that if you create a new character in SoA, sometimes you get a mix of the Bhaalspawn powers. e.g. one Cure and one Larloch - admittedly I've only done this with Chaotic Neutral characters recently, so maybe you get the mix because you're at Rep 10 and right on the cusp of the good/evil reputation threshhold?

Basically! If you are neutral the game just gives you a mix of the good and evil powers, I believe. If you import a character it just gives you whatever you had, but if you're making a new one it has to guess.

Heindrich

Is it just me or does anyone else really miss DuHM when you reach Spellhold? Sure the Slayer form is uber powerful... but RP'ing Good means I almost never use it, and I lose some really useful innate abilities.

My F/M suddenly could no longer compete with Anomen in terms of melee dmg output, let alone Minsc.

victory_rose

Maybe I shouldn't confess this, but I almost never used DuHM - I just never remembered it's there, so when it's gone, I don't miss it. I do however often forget that the other powers are gone, and it sometimes takes a few seconds to remember why Cure Light Wounds isn't there when I try to use it.

kaffekoppen

I've always used Slow Poison the most because it's just such a quick poison cure, much easier than throwing potions around. I guess it's also because around the time you get it, there are spiders all over the place!