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BG1:EE vs. BG2:EE

DarkDoggDarkDogg Member Posts: 598
It's simple. Which Enhanced Edition game (not the original content) you like more or which one is better in your opinion (New EE NPCs, quests, items, performance etc.).
If you are a fan of both EE series, please make a hard decision and choose one game you prefer more.
Don't vote if you don't like the EE games at all or if you're dissapointed with the EE editions.
  1. BG1:EE vs. BG2:EE77 votes
    1. BG1:EE
      23.38%
    2. BG2:EE
      76.62%

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  • DarkDoggDarkDogg Member Posts: 598
    BG1:EE - because of 3 new NPCs + Baeloth. BG2:EE has only 1 new NPC + bear grillz!
    I don't like the BG2:EE UI at all. You can find new items only in new areas or quests in BG2:EE. In BG1:EE every barrel or crate has a surprize. BG1:EE has 6 new EE soundsets. In BG1:EE some new class kits were indroduced (Blackguard, Dragon Disciple, Dwarfen Defender etc.). In BG2:EE no new EE soundsets and no new EE kits... I'm a bit dissapointed with the new BG2:EE NPC. And finally, maybe it's just me, but BG2:EE has some performance problems.
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    @DarkDogg BG2EE adds 4 new NPCs to BG2: Dorn, Hexxat, Neera, Rashaad. It also adds new kits to BG2, which were also added to BG1 by BGEE.
  • DarkDoggDarkDogg Member Posts: 598

    @DarkDogg BG2EE adds 4 new NPCs to BG2: Dorn, Hexxat, Neera, Rashaad. It also adds new kits to BG2, which were also added to BG1 by BGEE.

    You're too naive.
    It's a marketing ploy to deceive a customer. More profit at lower costs.
    The NPCs and kits were introduced in BG1:EE, not in BG2EE.
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    @DarkDogg Fine, then it adds Aerie, Korgan, Valygar, Anomen, Cernd, Jan, Yoshimo, Nalia, Keldorn, Mazzy, Haer'Dalis and Hexxat, which weren't in BG1EE...
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    I vote BG2EE for MANY reasons but mostly because of this totally overpowered new spell I discovered called the Red Button that when cast makes my life so much easier and takes much of the hassle out of the game leaving more room for enjoyment and smooth sailing.
    I like the simple things in life.
  • AranthysAranthys Member Posts: 722
    Story-wise:
    BG2:EE is better than BG:EE (Banters, additional areas, and so on).

    Item-wise :
    BG:EE was more interesting (and included needed additiona for serveral weapon times that were lacking a +2 version in Vanilla, like spears)

    NPC-Wise :
    I guess it's pretty equal : Baeloth (yay Sorc !) is about as cool as Hexxat (Non-kitted thief... bleh) + WIlson (Kensaï-like)



  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    Normally I like BG1 more but in this case I think BG2EE has more interesting new content (though it could do with more new items).
  • PantalionPantalion Member Posts: 2,137
    In terms of the games themselves, BG2 is naturally the superior, not least for the denser areas, lower amounts of filler-space and more involving NPCs.

    In terms of EEs, I think that more was added to BG1 than BG2, which brought the two closer together, mechanically, and there was more work involved.

    But BG:EE doesn't have an autoloot button. I love the autoloot button.
  • DarkDoggDarkDogg Member Posts: 598
    Pantalion said:


    In terms of EEs, I think that more was added to BG1 than BG2 and there was more work involved.

    You're right. that I was trying to say.
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    ahhh, I guess if you count adding all the classes and the aspects of the second game to the first, I suppose there was more added to the first game. I just always used Tutu for the past 8 or whatever years, so I didn't even look at it like that.
  • DarkDoggDarkDogg Member Posts: 598
    edited December 2013

    @DarkDogg Fine, then it adds Aerie, Korgan, Valygar, Anomen, Cernd, Jan, Yoshimo, Nalia, Keldorn, Mazzy, Haer'Dalis and Hexxat, which weren't in BG1EE...

    Do you really don't understand? To the original BG2 game they were new NPCs indeed. BG2:EE is a kind of a REMIX of the original game.
    Jaheira, Minsc, Edwin in BG2 were not presented as NEW NPCS, cause they were introduced in BG1. The same situation with the EE NPCs. Whats the difference between Edwin, Minsc and Rasaad, Dorn beeing imported to the second game? It's crystall clear, Rasaad, Dorn, Neera are not new to the realms as Edwin. Minsc, jaheira, Viconia every one of them has new content and quests and banters. Interplay never said that they were NEW NPCS in original BG2. The devs claim about 4 new NPC only to allure new customers. In other words (not very polite though) they are brainwashing new gamers. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, it's all about the money - very simple marketing strategies. Not honest though...

    In other words, IMHO they rushed with the release. Not properly worked with the second game + some storyline bugs with the new NPCs. I hope the game will be properly polished with new patches as they did in BG1:EE. I still belive in the devs they could make it better.
  • DarkDoggDarkDogg Member Posts: 598
    Fablewynd said:


    There may be new soundsets, but I don't really care about those; we still have the original ones they added from BG1:EE (if you fiddle about a bit).

    No way. BG2 soundsets have more strings, 14 or 16 compared to BG1 7 or 8.
  • Mrpenfold666Mrpenfold666 Member Posts: 428
    BG2:EE is better but i had never been so excited for a remake than when i heard they were making baldurs gate again, it gave me the chance to share my favorite game with my friends.

    to me BG:EE isn't the superior game but i didn't know overhaul were making BG:EE i knew they were going to make BG2:EE
  • mjsmjs Member Posts: 742
    well fudge, i love both enhanced editions, but if i had to choose i'd say bgee, because it brings it up to the quality of of bg2

    i also don't understand your stance on beamdog brainwashing, misleading or conning people about the new NPCs for bg2ee. they are still new for bg2ee compared to bg2, even if they first appeared in bgee. all that new content had to be added. locations created, dialogue written, more voice over work etc etc

    i imagine the cost to write them into bg2ee in fact probably exceeded that of bgee
  • elementelement Member Posts: 833
    I prefer the second baldurs gate game but baldurs gate 1 EE was a much better enhanced edition.
    it gave you new content in pretty much every area were as baldurs gate 2 EE realy didn't offer me that much new content, particularly when you take into account the fact that 2 of the new npcs will probably never get used by me.

    not to mention bg1EE actualy had a lot of improvements over the vanilla original were as bg2EE feels basicly the same
  • Smoke_JaguarSmoke_Jaguar Member Posts: 24
    It depends. I think BG1 needed the overhaul the most, so if I could only pick one game to be remade into an Enhanced Edition it would be BG1.

    With that said, I think BG2 is the superior game so naturally I'm enjoying BG2:EE more.
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    DarkDogg said:

    @DarkDogg Fine, then it adds Aerie, Korgan, Valygar, Anomen, Cernd, Jan, Yoshimo, Nalia, Keldorn, Mazzy, Haer'Dalis and Hexxat, which weren't in BG1EE...

    The devs claim about 4 new NPC only to allure new customers. In other words (not very polite though) they are brainwashing new gamers. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, it's all about the money - very simple marketing strategies. Not honest though...
    ...
    ....
    what?

    Neera, Hexxat, Dorn and mah boy Rasaad and the hidden npc are all new TO BG2. This is like saying adding Yeslick, Eldoth, Kagain, etc. to Shadows of Amn wouldn't be adding anything new. In other words that is an absurd notion.
  • Mrpenfold666Mrpenfold666 Member Posts: 428
    i agree with @Illustair but hearing about BG:EE gave me the chance to test out these new game makers, im pretty sure i would have had nothing to do with overhaul if they tried to make something new instantly, but they didn't, they chose to flex their muscles with BG:EE and i was interested and excited enough to pre-order and they didn't disappoint, but because we 'knew' they were going to do BG2:EE finding out wasn't as special......still exciting but not as special as the moment i found the remake.

    both games are amazing, but BG:EE exploded more in my opinion
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853
    It's very clear that most of the developers are in the "BGII is the best" camp, instead of respecting BG1 as its own game. Sure there are certainly some aspects of BGII that are just plain superior to BG1 but the same can be said vice versa, honestly.

    Because of that, a lot of the things added into both games feel sort of BGII-ish in nature, and as such, BGII:EE feels more like a proper game while BG:EE feels like a mod.

    That said? I was pleasantly surprised that BG:EE wasn't that bad. The new areas made me angry, because it went against the spirit of BG1's open world exploration where you can go anywhere you want despite what NPCs aren't in your party; but the characters themselves were actually alright. Neera doesn't fit in for beans but whatever. Beyond that, the enhancements were all welcome of course, although I really want my old player models and old spellcasting sounds back.

    BGII:EE brings in all of the same enhancements and a few more of course. I have found scarce few new items, which is slightly annoying. They're all tied to the new NPCs of course. Speaking of new NPCs, Dorn went from being genuinely interesting in BG:EE to a flat character with very unclear motivation in BGII:EE: Reaks of fail. Neera is still enjoyable and still doesn't fit in: Reaks of an NPC mod. Hexxat is just a bag of contradictions to try and shoehorn us into being interested: Reaks of an NPC mod. Oh and Rasaad actually fits in, gg Overhaul.

    They seriously dropped the ball on the NPCs in BGII:EE. That said, everything they "dropped the ball on" I am essentially free to ignore. The same cannot be said for BG:EE, thus my vote.

    That sounds like a really ungrateful opinion, so I'll add this: I'm glad for what they've done. Overhaul has breathed some new life into this game that aged surprisingly well on its own, and it is very much appreciated. Most importantly the game tends to just plain work the vast majority of the time instead of working on this computer and not working on this computer, like the old games. :P I like their enhancements (sans replacing BG1player models and their spellcasting sounds), I don't care much for their additions.
  • jackjackjackjack Member Posts: 3,251
    edited December 2013
    Don't get me wrong, I love 'em both, to the point where I've uninstalled every other game from my PC, save for Eye of the Beholder 1&2.
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