Two-weapon can't equip sling but sword/shield can??

Nerva

The game is telling me that's the case -- I thought you could use a sling and have a weapon in your off-hand.

moody_mage

Nope. As soon as you put a weapon in your off-hand you cannot have a missile of any sort in your main slots. It's never been allowed.

booinyoureyes

that would look really funny

Shin

I believe it's because some off-hand weapons give you extra attacks with your MH weapon, no matter what it is. So if it was allowed you could stand at a distance just holding Belm in your off-hand, and get an extra attack for your sling.

Pantalion

If Melf's are any indication, it's probably because your offhand weapon damage would be added to your sling attacks with every hit, thanks to a quirk in the code. Sling Bullets hitting for "+Crom Faeyr" damage each strike would be slightly over the top.

sunset00

Yes.. that one was normal from the start at least; i guess that's because slings are supposed to be 1 hand, and shields too..so np (but 2H swords/etc take 2 hands, so, etc, etc..)...

Now, i had a similar (and always have) question about throwing axes/daggers!.. We all know those ones have 2 modes..throwing/melee.. i always expected the melee mode could allow a standard dual handling with another usual 1hand melee axe in the off hand for exemple... but nope, the engine doesn't allow that one too (aka understading the throwing thing as a 'throwing thing' only..).. pity too that one.. i always would have loved to melee a few dual fights with Azuredge (on its melee mode obviously) and another melee weapon in the off hand..but never was possible too sigh.. ,(

Rajick

I think they should implement an alter net weapon slot were you can put a ranged weapon so you don't have to constantly switch between the two.

kamuizin

melf's minute meteor glitch is still active?

Pantalion

@kamuizin

They worked around it by making Melf's forcibly unequip your gear, the glitch itself is engine based and still in place as far as I'm aware.

amftron

I just wish i could dual wield darts.....

GamingFreak

booinyoureyes said:

that would look really funny

Stab one guy and shoot several others with a crossbow, Riddick Style or something.

Lathlaer

So I'm going to try to approach the subject from entirely different point of view. Namely: if you wear shield, it's mostly attached to your forearm with a grip for your fist. Now, you can release the grip and the shield still won't fall. That is not the case with, say, a sword.

And we all know that you have to put another bullet in your sling somehow It would be really awkward to try to do it with a sword in second hand. Borderline not worth the risk and it's much easier to do it with a shield

booinyoureyes

amftron said:

I just wish i could dual wield darts.....

Been saying that for years. I'd totally play an assassin if I could (Ninja).

However, I could be totally wrong, but I heard somewhere darts get an extra attack per round compared to slings. That sounds wrong, but I definitely heard it somewhere.

GamingFreak said:

booinyoureyes said:

that would look really funny

Stab one guy and shoot several others with a crossbow, Riddick Style or something.

Would be cool with a Drow handcrossboe

Wanderon

Lathlaer said:

So I'm going to try to approach the subject from entirely different point of view. Namely: if you wear shield, it's mostly attached to your forearm with a grip for your fist. Now, you can release the grip and the shield still won't fall. That is not the case with, say, a sword.

And we all know that you have to put another bullet in your sling somehow It would be really awkward to try to do it with a sword in second hand. Borderline not worth the risk and it's much easier to do it with a shield

Carry the bullets in your mouth and spit them into the sling pouch as needed... ;-)

RazaDelrom

Even though I can picture a (throwable) knife and a shield, a sling or slingshot is always a two handed weapon. See for yourself:

tennisgolfboll

Having a weapon connected to the forearm just like a shield was also used. But as mentioned its the engine that limits it. Two wep style is also the best style so its gooe balance wise.

Belanos

Nerva said:

The game is telling me that's the case -- I thought you could use a sling and have a weapon in your off-hand.

There's a reason why it's called a "Two-Handed" sword.

AcridSyphilis

Pantalion said:

@kamuizin

They worked around it by making Melf's forcibly unequip your gear, the glitch itself is engine based and still in place as far as I'm aware.

I hate that implementation. When my mage runs out he goes and walks up to people to punch them like a moron.

AHF

booinyoureyes said:

However, I could be totally wrong, but I heard somewhere darts get an extra attack per round compared to slings. That sounds wrong, but I definitely heard it somewhere.

A character using a sling gets a base of 1 attack per round. A character using a bow gets a base of 2 attacks per round. A character using darts gets a base of 3 attacks per round. If you get extra attacks (through weapon proficiencies, fighter levels, etc.) those stack on the base attacks so that a level 13 fighter with grand mastery should have 5 attacks per round with darts and 3 per round with a sling before haste or any other status effect comes into play.

Phonantiphon

I'm gonna necro this thread...
...Of course I forgot that you can't quickslot a single hand weapon and a two hand weapon at the same time...

meagloth

RazaDelrom said:

Even though I can picture a (throwable) knife and a shield, a sling or slingshot is always a two handed weapon. See for yourself:

The different ways to use a sling cannot be numbered, and I assure you many use only one arm.

Lathlaer said:

And we all know that you have to put another bullet in your sling somehow It would be really awkward to try to do it with a sword in second hand. Borderline not worth the risk and it's much easier to do it with a shield

Technically, you *can* pick up a bullet with one hand and drop it into the sling like a boss. It feels totally badass when you get it, but it works about every 100 times, so I don't know now consistent that would be:)