flail of ages - 5 heads....ruined

bman86

went to 5 headed flail...completely ruined the weapon. That free action destroys it. I wish I had just stayed with the 4 headed flail. Takes the zing out of getting that 5th head though. "Oh, the fifth flail head!" *chucks it on the ground*

Dragonspear

You can still GWW with the 5 headed flail right?

FinneousPJ

Free action is definitely a double-edged sword, if you will.

CrevsDaak

Equip the weapon in your second slot, so when you exit the inventory it isn't selected, go to the main game screen, Haste/Improved Haste/Paws of the CHeetah on yourself and equip it via the game screen's bottom bar, it should keep haste until CamDawg fixes it.

Skaffen

Check out

https://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/comment/424015#Comment_424015

for a quick ovveride fix for this if you don't like it. I will install once I find the fifth head.

Schneidend

First-Realm Problems. Maybe don't get so used to casting Haste before every fight?

GamingFreak

Cast Haste, then equip weapon. Problem solved. NEXT!

nano

There's only one fix - add more heads!!

Flail of Ages +6: magic head. +2 magic damage, sets your attacks to 10. There, free action is not so bad after all, is it?
Flail of Ages +7: troll head. Any troll's head will do. Gives regeneration but the terrible smell reduces your charisma to 3.
Flail of Ages +8: cabbage head. Can be eaten if you get hungry. Not likely, with the troll head.
Flail of Ages +9: your head. The ultimate weapon, but you must remove your own head to forge it. It's totally worth it, though, and not fatal at all. This message brought to you by Melissan, who has only your best interests at heart.

CrevsDaak

@GamingFreak it also dispels Hasts, 'tis a tricky weapon Y'know!
@nano nice idea, the 10th head should be the head of "The Ravager", just to make it worth ToB , and it adds 50 Resistance against Elemental damage (including Poison and Electricity).

Dragonspear

Honestly I've never used it, but I plan on using it with Anomen and my Fighter/Cleric (2 seperate runs) in my upcoming games. That said, I've never been a huge fan of IH either. And this is weird since I'm a firm believer in:

"Beatings will continue until loot improves"

nano

@CrevsDaak Haha, how awesome would it be to be able to forge actual the heads of your enemies into the flail? Besides the Ravager we could have

Illithid head, int drain on hit
Kangaxx, imprisonment on hit
Bodhi's head, level drain on hit
Irenicus' head, permanent improved alacrity
Noober's head, silence on hit

elminster

nano said:

@CrevsDaak Haha, how awesome would it be to be able to forge actual the heads of your enemies into the flail? Besides the Ravager we could have

Illithid head, int drain on hit
Kangaxx, imprisonment on hit
Bodhi's head, level drain on hit
Irenicus' head, permanent improved alacrity
Noober's head, silence on hit

With that many heads there should be a steeper strength requirement to use it

nano

Unwieldy too. Maybe I'll just put all the heads in a bag and beat people with the bag.

jackjack

That would be one disgusting weapon to go carrying around.

booinyoureyes

Yaga-Shura's head would have to do a d10

CrevsDaak

@nano Noober's head should make enemies run in Fear and Confusion together, like The Sword of Noober did (a mod not worth installing, but very funny indeed, it is like the things I make).

jackjack

I figured Noober's head would Vocalize on hit. Undesirable, to be sure, but then so is Free Action, apparently.

GamingFreak

CrevsDaak said:

@GamingFreak it also dispels Hasts, 'tis a tricky weapon Y'know!
@nano nice idea, the 10th head should be the head of "The Ravager", just to make it worth ToB , and it adds 50 Resistance against Elemental damage (including Poison and Electricity).

Funny, Ring of Free Action doesn't dispel haste when you equip it.

CrevsDaak

@GamingFreak I know, but other things dispel it, and it is nasty to take out the ring and equip it again so I really don't use it.

Quartz

Aye, a lot of people actually intentionally keep it at four heads.

CrevsDaak

@Quartz WHO? Those must be totally mad if they do so in the vanilla.

Quartz

@CrevsDaak Maybe people who don't like to take advantage of exploits? =P

CrevsDaak

@Quartz ah, those, poor chaps, I always feel sorry for 'em, why not to use the +5 with Free Action AND Haste instead of using the +4 only with Haste? I still feeling sorry for 'em.

Quartz

@CrevsDaak I still feeling sorry for YOUR FACE

oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh

GamingFreak

regardless, GWW + Boots of Speed. There you go

CrevsDaak

@Quartz that. was. random. totally sure. you must be in the Watcher's Keep Maze level for sure, in a wild magic area.
Still, with that pic and that attitude you MUCH like a friend of mine.
RANDOM OFF-TOPIC SILLY NON-CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS FOR THE WIN!!!!!

elminster

GamingFreak said:

regardless, GWW + Boots of Speed. There you go

Greater Whirlwind would work but the boots of speed are cancelled by the free action.

GamingFreak

elminster said:

GamingFreak said:

regardless, GWW + Boots of Speed. There you go

Greater Whirlwind would work but the boots of speed are cancelled by the free action.

I was not aware of this. Seems Free Action is still kinda bugged.

Quartz

@CrevsDaak But I *am* a friend of yours'

(Wow, that comment was almost as cheesy as throwing a Cloudkill in a room and closing the door)

Dragonspear

@GamingFreak

That would be free action working as intended. It says that "the wearer is immune to everything, magical and otherwise, that affect mobility in anyway. This includes the Haste and Slow spells".

Minor Note: it does not seem to reduce Rasaad's speed in my current game.

GamingFreak

Well, I said bugged because last time I slipped on the Ring of Free action after hasting myself up I still had the effects of both spells on even after equipping the ring. I can test it right now to be sure though.

EDIT: Yup, just tested it, by adding the effects of Free Action *AFTER* the haste buffs, you can still keep your buffs without Free Action nullifying it.

EDIT: And I just tested it again by hasting with regular haste, then Improved haste, then equipping the FoA+5. I got the free action effect and still got to keep my haste buffs.

LAWYERED!

EDIT: Free Action does indeed however cancel out the boots of speed, no matter what the equipping order is, so @elminster was right about that