The Windspear Massacre

Pantalion

So for the first time ever, I decided to be contrary to the nosy Mr Windspear and decline his offer of sanctuary. Instead, I went back to Athkatla to meet with Lord Firkraag and get my much deserved rewards.

Just outside the Coronet, a squad of six Paladins/Clerics/a Mage appeared out of nowhere and jumped me! Five sets of Full Plate, some scrolls, and about 45k Exp later, and I'm wandering around waiting to see if any more turn up.

I love finding out new things about the game even on my tenth plus playthrough.

Moczo

Hehehe, that IS kinda cool. I never tried turning Garren down. It's neat the developers actually considered people would and put in a response.

tennisgolfboll

What happened to your rep?

Pantalion

Not a thing, still sitting pretty at 13 Reputation, with a grand total of 12 Paladins on my kill count after triggering a second ambush.

Dzuk5

i do that long time ego, reputation will never change. this guys will be atacks you when you go to athla lokation if i remmber thatright and don,t stop until you ask Garren to speek in your name. this same is when you don't be licences for magic using in city a love to sloter those mages;P but now i play with mods and they are liatel scerry so i buy this licences;)

enqenq

Wow. What happens if you do the dungeon?

Pantalion

enqenq said:

Wow. What happens if you do the dungeon?

They stop coming, sadly. Considering how much cash and experience each squad of these guys was worth, I'd say that was a bad thing.

The last surviving paladin always says the equivalent of "I'll get you next time Gadget!" then tries to run away.

And yeah, it's very easy to accidentally call down a squad of Cowled Enforcers on yourself if you fight them outdoors, making for an epic battle royale.

enqenq

So is Garren's child kidnapped anyway then?

kryptix

I might have to do this just to farm some extra exp next time...

Real

Dzuk5 said:

i do that long time ego, reputation will never change. this guys will be atacks you when you go to athla lokation if i remmber thatright and don,t stop until you ask Garren to speek in your name. this same is when you don't be licences for magic using in city a love to sloter those mages;P but now i play with mods and they are liatel scerry so i buy this licences;)

If I recalled correctly, the cowled wizard spawns from magic violations are not indefinite. It should end after you dispatch the last named female cowled wizard.

Pantalion said:

They stop coming, sadly. Considering how much cash and experience each squad of these guys was worth, I'd say that was a bad thing.

The last surviving paladin always says the equivalent of "I'll get you next time Gadget!" then tries to run away.

I think these are the same paladins that get spawned to attack you when you have very low rep. The paladins spawned randomly to attack me also say "I'll get you next time!" whenever they get defeated. Not sure if their spawns are indefinite though, since they are encountered less often than the standard Amnish guard spawns. But I'm just saying, if you miss them after completing the quest... well, evil has its own set of rewards to counter the increased shopping costs

Pantalion

enqenq said:

So is Garren's child kidnapped anyway then?

Basically, you can later head to the Cabin, and the quest goes on from there.

enqenq

Yeah but if you do this:

Go to the hills
Kill the knights
Turn Garren down, and do whatever except change your mind about that
At some point, go do the dungeon
Kill Firkraag and Conster (the big question here is "can you?")
Go see Garren

What then, are the minions of a dead dragon gonna kidnap the child?

Gilad

Does anybody know, what happens, if you simply run away from the initial battle with paladins at Windspear hills and then go kill Firkraag? Will the illusion be dispelled?

Erinne

Gilad said:

Does anybody know, what happens, if you simply run away from the initial battle with paladins at Windspear hills and then go kill Firkraag? Will the illusion be dispelled?

You won't be able to enter the dungeon.

SpaceInvader

If you refuse Garren's help, after killing the knights, he will spawn just before you enter the dungeon.
Telling you that he spoke with the paladins to defend you, but now Firkraag kidnapped his son.

Real

SpaceInvader said:

If you refuse Garren's help, after killing the knights, he will spawn just before you enter the dungeon.
Telling you that he spoke with the paladins to defend you, but now Firkraag kidnapped his son.

Interesting. I knew that there was something fishy about that wench...

elminster

Thats pretty sweet. I'd refused his offer before but I never thought of going back to the coronet.

enqenq

Real said:

SpaceInvader said:

If you refuse Garren's help, after killing the knights, he will spawn just before you enter the dungeon.
Telling you that he spoke with the paladins to defend you, but now Firkraag kidnapped his son.

Interesting. I knew that there was something fishy about that wench...

I think his child is always the opposite sex of charname. The potency of this mechanic is however ruined by Garren's inability to teach his offspring the proper way to express gratitude.