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  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511
    I wound never not micromanage spell casting, the AI is far to dumb to be trusted with that.
  • shawneshawne Member Posts: 3,239
    @belgarathmth: It's not like Sand or Ammon Jerro are any more careful with their spells - it's an AI issue, not a character issue. Spellcasters are best when directly controlled.
  • BelgarathMTHBelgarathMTH Member Posts: 5,653
    edited December 2013
    @shawne, respectfully disagreed. I can control Sand through his spellbook, by setting it with only spells I expect to need him to cast. Mostly, I fill him up with every version of Magic Missile (including the Isaac's line), and build his feats for metamagic, until I can fill up almost every slot in his spellbook with some version of Magic Missile.

    Ammon has a totally different "spell" mechanic. I just choose only the incantations I want at level ups. Also, you don't even get him to deal with until very, very late in the game. I only take him anyway during the brief times when I *have* to for story reasons.

    Sand, on the other hand, stays in my party from the moment I get him until the end of the game, unless I am playing the party arcane caster myself.
  • shawneshawne Member Posts: 3,239
    You can just as easily have Qara trade Fireball for a spell that doesn't hurt your party, like Flame Arrow or Firebrand.
  • Mrpenfold666Mrpenfold666 Member Posts: 428
    Qara sucks!, she is a substandard sorcereress with no personality apart from generic sorcerer "i have power i should use it when i want on who i want". she thinks she ahs no flaws and becuase of that she shouldn't abide by rules
    Where as Neera is "i have power, and i cant control it, but i do try to aim it at bad people!" she has a personality, she knows her flaws, she does what she can but she just goes with the flow as you cant put your hopes on something that's pretty much 100% random so why bother getting overly upset and just see the bright side!

    i would much rather have a bunch of fireball scrolls with me, they have more personality and character backstory than Qara
  • kamuizinkamuizin Member Posts: 3,704
    BG2 -> A better story, quests... almost everything.

    NWN2 -> The BEST workaround of classes, making the game much more interesting? Sometimes i just feel the urge of play NWN2 only for try new class combos.

    If anyone out here are going to make an Redux Version of BG:EE, keep NWN2 classes, just saying :)!
  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511
    Trying new classes isn't much fun when the story is so dull though, and you are stuck with pretty much the same NPCs in the same roles every playthrough.
  • shawneshawne Member Posts: 3,239
    @Fardragon: It helps to think of NWN2 as just the prologue to "Mask of the Betrayer". :)
  • kamuizinkamuizin Member Posts: 3,704
    Today i play more Storm of Zehir than any other thing, but even then it's becoming a bit boring.

    Another game made over the structure of NWN2 would be nice, which bring an idea for an option over an enhanced edition.
  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511
    I've never played Storm. Been trying to get hold of a copy, so far unsuccessfully.
  • Mrpenfold666Mrpenfold666 Member Posts: 428
    storm of zehir is very rare apperently, judging by prices it commands on ebay and amazon
  • ajwzajwz Member Posts: 4,122
    Qara and Neera do seem to be pretty similar.
  • DrHappyAngryDrHappyAngry Member Posts: 1,577
    It's a damn shame they cut the scene that would have shown that Qara is far more powerful than she lets on, and is actually holding back the entire time. The scene still exists in the game files.

    I actually loved Qara, and she was the one I wanted a romance option for. I know... I have problems, I know. I'm a sucker for a crazy girl that makes snarky comments.
  • FlashburnFlashburn Member Posts: 1,847
    @kamuizin
    Have you played BG: Reloaded yet? Someone recreated BG1 in NWN2's engine. There's a second patch available for it that came out recently. I've played it before the patches came out so I hope it fixes what was wrong.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    This topic just makes me want to play NWN2 again haha :)
  • KastionKastion Member Posts: 44
    Off topic but why is Storm of Zehir so expensive? I have two copies we don't even use because I've always hated making your own parties. NPC personalities are what MAKES these type of games to me :(

    On topic, I hope they're not a like but haven't had any face time with Neera just yet. I hated Qara though but ADORED Neeshka in the first expansion while the second ... bald women rocked apparently.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    Kastion said:

    Off topic but why is Storm of Zehir so expensive? I have two copies we don't even use because I've always hated making your own parties. NPC personalities are what MAKES these type of games to me :(

    I would wait for the complete edition to go on sale on GOG.com again (if downloading it is an option for you). I think I picked it up for like $5 a few weeks ago.
  • kamuizinkamuizin Member Posts: 3,704
    Flashburn said:

    @kamuizin
    Have you played BG: Reloaded yet? Someone recreated BG1 in NWN2's engine. There's a second patch available for it that came out recently. I've played it before the patches came out so I hope it fixes what was wrong.

    I have given a try on Redux only @Flashburn, and i'm tempted to play IWD version made for NWN2, that has promise. By the way thanks for the tip anyway :)!
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