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RPQ: Dragon behaviour (possible spoiler)

JulixJulix Member Posts: 28
Role-Play Question: Could a silver dragon mom fearing the death of her offsprings EVER be coerced into donating blood for a good cause?

For discussion of situation at hand see "spoiler" (which I kept as low spoiler info as possible)

She considers a magic item that happens to be useless to Charname an appropriate reward for returning her creations unharmed, but he disagrees. And due to his chaotic nature and ability to use even evil artifacts for good causes, and knowing that silver dragon blood might come in handy for creating such an artifact (and curious to find out what exactly the artifact may be), he hides the eggs in interplanetary space. He promises they are still intact and that he has no intention of causing any harm, but that he would like nothing more than a small blood donation from the dragon. He promises further that this donation would not result in any harm to the dragon. In return he will give back the offspring and if need be do an additional favor.

I destroyed an entire city of drow, one of illiths, one of beholders and one of lizzard men -- using "detect alignment" to spare only good aligned creatures. [In my understanding of D&D roleplay - unlike the real world - good or bad is something you are, to some degree beyond your actions...] Making this part of the underdark fairly safe and thus I'd say freeing the Dragon of her responsibility to guard the area.

At this point, wearing a pretty robe (+2), wielding a sword that smells like roses (+2), under the influence of a spell that makes me even more likeable (+6), while holding a ring of influence (set Charisma to 18 before bonuses), and being naturally amazingly attractive to start with (18). further some potions set WIS to 18 and INT to 21, so CHA=28 (though capped at 25), WIS=18 and INT=21. In D&D terms that guy should know just what to say and how to say it...

Of course as the game is you can't show "mercy" after the battle starts, but I figure if the dragon tires of my threats my party could beat her up pretty good, to show her we could kill her if we wanted to, but don't because we know that she's useful for the greater good and we do care for her. then heal the shit out of her and give her the "kids". (pretty sure healing is a bloody process, so there's our donation) - and maybe tell her if she wants to take revenge on us for humiliating her (despite also having saved her kids, and spared her life), she ought to wait until all the evil that the bard can stop in his lifetime will be stopped.

Comments

  • egonegon Member Posts: 94
    Offering blood as a reward (for a magic ritual for example) isn't that uncommon in the fantasy genre.

    It would probably be better, story-wise, if a good character (or even a neutral one) just asked for it as a reward (without threatening the eggs) and recieve it from a thankful mother. Threatening the offspring of powerful creatures tend to send them into "kill the threat"-mode.

    I guess the easiest way to doing this is to finish the quests as usual and the use EEKeeper to replace the crossbow with the dragon's blood.
  • NikPrussNikPruss Member Posts: 14
    http://kerzenburg.baldurs-gate.eu/downloads.php?id=63

    That is a mod called Aladon's Blood that allows you to do what you described above.
  • scriverscriver Member Posts: 2,072
    Asking for blood and getting it? Yeah, a Good character could (and should've been able to, if BG weren't so keen on arbitrary good/evil decisions) do that. But what you describe in your post? That's downright evil, man :P
  • JulixJulix Member Posts: 28
    It would escalate in steps of course. First I ask the dragon right away when the quest is given. If it says no, things get chaotic. - My chaotic good guy is very much outcome focused. Anything goes as long as the result is good. Result is a mother dragon reunited with her kids, a bard in bad ass armor and a drow city burned to the ground.

    I just remembered at the end that I'm running around with Vici so considering all drows as evil seems wrong. he did think she was redeemable. However hearing her stories and actually seeing the horrors of drow town is quite different. He also initially (pre romance) he was just using her for greater good stuff... Means to an end doesn't sound very good (in fact using people is evil if you do it for selfish reasons) but there's that saying about no villain ever thinking they're the bad one...

    To be completely fair I did intend for the bard to be chaotic neutral (which he will be on average overall) but in the first half of the game I didn't have HLA: UAI, and I liked throwing that magic returning axe at people... - also all the quests that far were better done good, so I found myself never acting not chaotic good, so I changed it.

    Killing the entire city when escaping would have been good enough... and giving both drows fakes and then clua-consoling the deamon back in so I could kill him too (because for some reason I had no dialogue options to offend him). And losing part of his soul
    - that might have had a toll on his mental health and internal balance

    I guess I could add the blood to the inventory and change the alignment to neutral.

    Also changing his name to Drizzt, because of the sarcasm jester dialogue options when talking with that elf to claim I'm in league with Irenicus. When his mind reader people call me a liar and he takes that as evidence that I'm no threat I kick it up a notch and say "you saw through me. I hate that guy. Cause actually I'm Drizzt. I just went down there to clean up the underdark and now I got new goals: helping this "(original Charname)-guy" hunt down Irenicus. -- As bad luck would have it, real drizzt somehow hears of that within very very very short time... or is it good luck? Well I don't really need any of his stuff this time around, but I like having souvenirs. --- Charname had gone insane while he was slaughtering the drow babies (off panel) and Drizzt is his alternate persona that he dissociates into, to pretend that he's still a good person. --- But when the real Drizzt attacks him just because of him using the name in vain he realizes if even the perfect make mistakes, then mistakes aren't real. or perfect isn't real. Either way what does good or bad really mean anyways... there's no order to anything, including his own actions (Chaotic Neutral :-) ) -- what do you say, should I get to keep the ferry dragon familiar until it dies?
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