Edwin or Minsc?
bbear
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You have 10 seconds to save only one person. Is it going to be Edwin or Minsc?
Irenicus: "It's time for more experiments."
Irenicus: "It's time for more experiments."
- Edwin or Minsc?103 votes
- Edwin32.04%
- Minsc52.43%
- Neither! I'll enjoy watching them suffer in their death!9.71%
- O NOO!! PLEEASSE DONT MAKE ME CHOOSE....!!5.83%
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Edwin is Lawful Evil, a Thayan and a Red Wizard. You're NOTHING but a means to power/gold and you're expendable to him.
Do you want to save someone that will sell you out or leave you at the first chance?
And if we don't metagame that we know their personalities, I would still choose Minsc for the simple reason that he's huge and much more durable than a mage.
However, if there was an option to save just Boo I would go for it.
Edwin has terrible stats outside of his intelligence and can't identify things in the field, which I find to be very irritating.
Minsc is basically a pure tank with mediocre dexterity and constitution. During my last playthrough, he got taken out by a single flame arrow from a kobold. The plus side was that I didn't have to debate who I was going to remove to allow Xan in. ;-)
2 things on Minsc:
With his strength, but terrible dex and con, his job is to provide muscle BEHIND someone with a shield. Putting Khalid or a PC in front of him and letting him use his crazy strength to clean up is nice. Dual Wielding Stupifier + X in BG1 or using a 2h sword it doesn't matter.
I like Minsc in the second row out of the 3 rows I normally run (using the pentagon formation):
First Row: The one holding the shield, probably has boots of speed (ideally a dwarf), who runs in first and soaks up punishment. By Mid BG2, this is often a fighter/cleric of some sort due to their buffs.
Second row (3 across): This is where the proverbial beatdown is, 2h weapon users, monks, dual wielders, etc all go here. Sure they have enough health to maybe take a shot or two, but their big selling point is cleanup and making sure nothing gets to the 3rd row.
Third Row: Our fragile little finger wagglers, archers, stone throwers, dart throwers, you get the idea. They all go back here. With plenty of bodies in front of them, usually they're safe from most things. Even my normal scout, unless I think they're powerful enough to be in row 2 (I'm looking at you Valygar), goes here (Imoen, Yoshimo, et al). The reason is that unless I use them for a backstab, chances are they're using ranged weapons etc. A blade for example wouldn't go back here, but something like a jester probably would. Avenger or Cernd, etc would all be back here.
Anyway, Minsc is fairly solid in the second row, with the only downside being that you'll never really use his rage there cause he might target other party members. In this area, I find him only passed by, Dorn, Keldorn (post str belt and/or Carsomyr), Shar-teel (if you keep her as a fighter), Rasaad (primarily post lvl 14).
Disclaimer: I've never run a seriously magic heavy party, so I have a heavy reliance upon strength based damage dealers.
EDIT: now that I think about it, actually from RP point of view one could make an argument that Edwin's survival rate would be increased with a good party, since almost all of those have enough moral conduct to not kill him outright for his annoying character. Whereas Korgan wouldn't last a week if insulted
And how else is Evil going to meet a sword?
...But Edwin is just so entertaining. He's one of my favorites, with his sarcasm and his muttering to himself and his stupidly ineffectual plans and his general crazy. I can't help it. He's awesome.
Also, it's not as if Edwin hides the fact he wants power above all, but not being dumb he probably knows adventuring with a child of Bhaal is the best way to get that, so long as you aren't a paladin/goody-two-shoes.
I'd murder both of them on the spot for Jan, however.
Points at Irenicus CTRL + Q : auto-recruit creature under cursor into party
Take this Irenicus !
I find Edwin's snarkiness and off-kilter megalomania incredibly entertaining. He is worth taking for his voice and his funny comments alone. He is the ultimate savant and his muttering about his ineffective plots to overthrow you often make me smile. But really... there is absolutely zero depth to this character, and no way to feel empathy toward his needs/wants.
Minsc is just as hilarious, and for me the most memorable character in the game. He is the ultimate bro, and got your back through and through. The game is camaraderie, adventure and steel on steel, and nobody embodies it more than he does.
The reason I pick Minsc are two-fold:
1. Unlike Edwin you actually do have a reason to feel compassion toward his character. He grows up with you as two young adventurers far from home on the Sword Coast and he also experiences a great loss and sense of failure. This gives me a reason to care for him. As entertaining as Edwin is, there is nothing about him other than his witty remarks that would make him your friend.
2. Boo is the most over-powered item in the game. The little trinket that Edwin wears on his neck is a pathetic bauble compared to the morale and wisdom that Boo brings to the party. Or to avenge him!
... and what's to prevent us from raising the deadee. Ahahah! Found a loophole bbear!
Let's just say that the victim gets chunked.