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Where can you find a character that is a clecic/healer?

I need a healer for my team, is there some such out there?

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  • abacusabacus Member Posts: 1,307
    Jaheira (Fighter/Druid) is the first healer available in both games (look around the Inn in BG1, and look around the starting room in bg2.

    For clerics, in bg1, head east from Nashkel, a halfling will try to sell you a scroll... Or explore the map to the east of the Friendly Arm Inn (more difficult enemies around there though). In bg2, there's a circus tent you might want to check (Promenade), or talk to a few people at the Copper Coronet (Slums).
  • TokTok Member Posts: 19
    Thanks.
  • abacusabacus Member Posts: 1,307

    There's also Kagain in Cloakwood Mines in BG, but if you don't pick him up before completing the Cloakwood Mines quest, he is lost.

    You mean Yeslick.
    Kagain is a fighter (in his shop in Beregost)

  • MetallomanMetalloman Member, Moderator, Translator (NDA) Posts: 3,975
    ^ as you can see, I've edited just after posting! ;P
  • TokTok Member Posts: 19
    The dwarf warrior is evil, right? Will he leave the Group if my group go around being goodguys?
  • atcDaveatcDave Member Posts: 2,393
    Branwin is probably best/easiest to get to early on. Just go the Neshkel carnival. She's the petrified lady. Either buy a flesh to stone scroll at a temple or pay too much to the scammer right near her; and you get a capable, willing and loyal cleric very early on.
  • MitchforkMitchfork Member Posts: 390
    Tok said:

    The dwarf warrior is evil, right? Will he leave the Group if my group go around being goodguys?

    Anyone that's an evil alignment will leave the group if your reputation gets to 19 or 20, and you can check what your current reputation is on the character record.
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    Kagain's evil but Yeslick isn't.
  • moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,054
    There is also Tiax (evil gnome Cleric/Thief) in Baldur's Gate itself and Quayle (gnome Illusionist/Cleric) by the bridge in front of Baldur's Gate.

    So plenty of Divine healing to be had.
  • abacusabacus Member Posts: 1,307
    decado said:

    There is also Tiax (evil gnome Cleric/Thief) in Baldur's Gate itself and Quayle (gnome Illusionist/Cleric) by the bridge in front of Baldur's Gate.

    So plenty of Divine healing to be had.

    Aren't they quite late pickups though (I can't really remember)? It sounds like OP is still at the party-forming early stages.
  • HeindrichHeindrich Member, Moderator Posts: 2,959
    abacus said:


    Aren't they quite late pickups though (I can't really remember)? It sounds like OP is still at the party-forming early stages.

    @abacus
    Yes, you'll need to have completed Cloakwood Mines at the very least.

    Branwen is a solid choice for a capable early cleric.

    Although I think it's worth pointing out that in-battle healing is not very effective in BG compared to other games I've played. The hp recovered is modest, and the spell duration is pretty long. You are better off using buff-self/disable-foes to prevent damage in the first place.
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    edited January 2014
    Tiax and Quayle can only be picked up after finishing Cloakwood Mines, so yeah, late game. There is a mod that relocates Quayle to the Nashkel Carnival though. I think it also puts Tiax to Beregost, but not sure.

    Kagain, the evil dwarf fighter in Beregost, will leave if your rep is 19 or 20, but from a roleplay perspective, he easily counts as Lawful Neutral. His only "sin" is wanting gold, and he runs a mercenary business, so he gains his gold in a honest, legal fashion. I can't see many good/neutral characters having a problem with him. Maybe someone who swore an oath of poverty or objects the existance of currency. There is a potential conflict with Yeslick and Ajantis (who potentially attacks all evil aligned NPCs), but I assume Kagain/Yeslick is a rarely seen fight. With Yeslick being a midgame NPC, and a party leader with high charisma, it's a rather low risk they'll come to blows.

    Speaking of midgame NPCs, in Cloakwood is also Faldorn, the "evil" druid who can function as healer. She's true neutral as all druids, and "evil" in the same way Jaheira is "good".

    Early in the game (one map north of Friendly Arm) you can pick up Ajantis, who is a paladin and can at least Lay Hands for some minor healing.

    For a starting party and "need healer asap", it's either Viconia (evil) or Branwen (neutral), the two pure clerics, or Jaheira.
  • moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,054
    abacus said:

    decado said:

    There is also Tiax (evil gnome Cleric/Thief) in Baldur's Gate itself and Quayle (gnome Illusionist/Cleric) by the bridge in front of Baldur's Gate.

    So plenty of Divine healing to be had.

    Aren't they quite late pickups though (I can't really remember)? It sounds like OP is still at the party-forming early stages.
    Well yeah, however I'd already listed the early game ones. Just rounding out the BG1 choices as it's not really clear what game is being played or how far progressed it is.
  • CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
    As has already been said, in-combat healing is usually best done using healing potions rather than spells due to the limited range and casting time of healing spells.

    A healer's main roles are buffing the party before combat (Resist Fear, Bless, Chant, Protection from Evil 10' radius and Defensive Harmony are all good), debuffing or disabling enemies and lastly healing the party up between combats. Using them well will mean your party take less damage and can go for longer peroids between resting.
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    abacus said:


    You mean Yeslick.
    Kagain is a fighter (in his shop in Beregost)

    Kagain can cast spells in my game. Ok, mainly simply stinking cloud, but that in itself can be quite deadly. He can also cast an on hit death spell with his axe. Save or ... well, there really isn't a save. it just happens quite a lot that things die. When they don't, they take damage. And finally he can cast healing.... on himself.... after a REALLY LONG time..... like traveling between maps.

  • jackjackjackjack Member Posts: 3,251
    atcDave said:

    Branwin is probably best/easiest to get to early on. Just go the Neshkel carnival. She's the petrified lady. Either buy a flesh to stone scroll at a temple or pay too much to the scammer right near her; and you get a capable, willing and loyal cleric very early on.

    Alternatively, you can rob the scammer blind, and presto, free cleric.
  • nanonano Member Posts: 1,632
    I think she's just a regular cleric. Even a regular cleric is pretty useful though.
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    she actually has a special ability that gives her some kind of magical hammer. Its a "quasi-kit"
  • CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
    Branwen's weaknesses are being a single-class unkitted cleric with mediocre stats. I used to use her a lot, but so many of the alternatives are better.

    While her wisdom of 16 gives a couple of bonus spells her Strength of 13 means she cannot equip plate without a Strength-boosting item. Her Dex and Con are okay but nothing to write home about.

    She's just underwhelming. No platemail for a while which means frontlining is out unless you use the Ankheg armour. Not a particularly devestating slinger. No cleric kit advantages. No useful multiclass combination. Meh.

    I prefer Viconia, Jaheira, Quayle and particularly Yeslick to Branwen. Possibly even Tiax. All the others have either better stats or a solid multiclass that lets them fill another role as well. Branwen's real role is being the only non-Evil Cleric you can get early.
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    For a good/neutral party, Branwen is a solid choice. She has all the useful cleric spells druids don't get and that is probably what counts most for a low level party. Remove Fear, Command, Chant. Her special ability with the hammer isn't the most useful and it's far from a kit. But - the other clerics/druids also have no kit. No-one except the new NPCs has a kit, unless you count the sorry excuses for mage kits as such.

    Since it's still not clear where in which game OP is... Xzar and Dynaheir can also be healers (Xzar reasonably early in midgame with 1 tome, Dynaheir tediously late in late game with 2 tomes) and that would be the complete list of options. Without knowing the party, it's hard to say which would be the best choice.
  • kryptixkryptix Member Posts: 741
    Potions are the best healers :) at least until you get lots of casts of Heal...
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    @Corvino - Branwen's perfectly set up to wear Ankheg armor, and since there are at least two sets of that, where's the harm in giving her at least one? And you can get the first one at about the same time as you get her and pretty much everyone that can wear it already has a STR rating enough to wear the regular stuff so it is almost like it was tailor designed for her anyway.

    Admittedly, she isn't a first string front liner, but then name another cleric in the game that is? With Ankheg armor and the +1 Warhammer that shocks for an additional point, she is a perfectly acceptable backup tank. Throw in some of the normal Cleric Buffs and she'll hold her own in any combat situation. And by virtue of being one of only two single class clerics in the game, she is clearly one of the best healers too boot.

    I have a personal bias towards Viccy, but I think Branwen is just as capable (probably more so against everything but magic users) and she fulfills more than one role.
  • CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
    @the_spyder - I know exactly where you're coming from. Branwen is alright, she's just not exceptional. I have used her on 2-3 full playthroughs over the years, but I always find it tempting to drop her for Yeslick, Viconia or Quayle fairly quickly. While Yeslick and Quayle are multis they fill their niches pretty well, and Viconia is a great ranged cleric.

    I know Quayle gets a lot of stick for his poor stats (including wisdom), but you'll struggle to find a better secondary arcane or divine caster in BG1. His Cleric/Illusionist class alone gives him tons of spells to play with. If you really wanted, you could have no casters but him in your party and still have a full set of buffs, debuffs and heals.
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    @Corvino - heh.. I actually call Branwen 'Bran-flakes'. She's pretty bland. But still in all a solid cleric. I am OLD school where you have 1 Cleric, 1 Wizard, 1 Thief and 3 Fighter types in the group, so she fits that very nicely indeed. But yeah, Viccy is easier on the eyes (and harder in the sack).

    I confess that I've never dealt with Quayle or Yeslick. I'll have to check them out one play-through.
  • CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
    With the Gauntlets of Dexterity Yeslick is a beast of a tank and if you set him up with the cursed belt from Rasaad's quest then so much the better. He's obtained a bit late but gets proficiency in Warhammers and Maces, Cleric spells and Shorty saves. If you can wait he comes highly recommended.

  • atcDaveatcDave Member Posts: 2,393
    I often switch Branwen with Yeslick when I get to him. But Branwen is available much earlier. And she is acceptable for the entire game.
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