backstab isn't adding up!

mjs

would there be a reason for a backstab to do very very little damage, like a bad roll or something like that?

Article A: Triple backstab for 2 damage



Article 2: Observe the damage range on the inventory screen



Article Lowly hobgoblin takes 1 damage from backstab



No mods and as far as I'm aware the Iron Throne haven't been bolstering their ranks with super guards/hobgoblins

lunar

That's why tired and sleepless soldiers lose battles. You are suffering extreme fatigue penalties methinks. Try sleeping (rest) and attack again.

mjs

i didn't think fatigue actually had that much of an effect. those are insane penalties! like -10 to damage rolls!

lunar

Yeah it normally has small penalties but it quickly adds up. And fatigue penalties do not show up in game menus it is really deceiving. Your main char must have been awake for more than a week, I think. Or use haste spell a lot.

ChildofBhaal599

even severe fatigue wouldn't he at least be doing 3 damage?

TwoWayFinesse

Maybe it takes off damage after applying the backstab multiplier? Still a lot of damage reduction though.

Also, Montaron in the same party as an assassin. He might get jealous!

Schneidend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv6b0CretuE

Gotural

Fatigue get you a -1 penalty to damage rolls the moment you're tired and then a cumulative -1 each hour after that. I think you're awake for 3 days or something.

the_spyder

That's one of the things I really don't like. You travel all around the local area, and sometimes have travel times of 20+ hours. You'd think that there would be an option such that you could rest along the way, thus restoring spells and preventing fatigue from striking.

I have literally shown up places where "Travel tile 2 days" and everyone gets struck with fatigue. Duh, we would have stopped after 8 hours.

That might be something really cool to add to the game. If travel time is greater than 12 hours, a popup menu opens upon starting saying 'Rest along the way' or 'travel straight through'. If you choose rest along the way, it calculates the travel time (and adjusts the random encounter check accordingly) based on resting 8 hours every 12, but you get there fully rested and ready for whatever you find. If you choose to travel straight through, things run as they do now.

You should also be able to designate "Enter area in daylight" or 'Wait till darkness', adding appropriate travel time accordingly. That way, if you want to only travel around in daylight (or night) it's assumed that you stopped along the outskirts (or at an appropriate stop along the way) and got there when you intended. This should also factor into the random encounter table.

Gotural

@the_spyder Very good post, i'd like to see this implemented.

the_spyder

I'd think that implementation of the first half would be relatively easy. Merely add a separate algorithm that triggers when the travel script fires. Within it, if you choose to rest, add the random encounter check and then set the 'rested' variable to zero (or whatever the designation) upon loading the new area. Otherwise simply act as normal.

Seriously though, if you travel from half way through Cloakwood back to the friendly arm inn, its like 2 days or something ridiculous. Haven't they ever heard of tents?